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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2022, 12:40 »
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Some stocks publish the words that buyers most often search for. So there are not only words, but also phrases. If you take these words and insert them into your work, then you will be found more often.

search algorithms likely see no difference between tags "red", "flowers" & "red flowers"

main reason to include tag phrases is to disambiguate:  "red river" & "river" rather than "red", "river"


« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2022, 12:51 »
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.. dupe..

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2022, 12:53 »
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Some stocks publish the words that buyers most often search for. So there are not only words, but also phrases. If you take these words and insert them into your work, then you will be found more often.

Which Sites? That would be useful, maybe. I'm kind of out of the usual subjects and words, but it could be good for anyone more mainstream? I'd really like to see what buyers used to buy images, not what random people looked at.

Good point. I should add those words, just because people search for them and trick them into seeing images they aren't looking for? Kind of falls into my "bad keywords" ideas.

The ideal answer for me would be if we got more of what word did a buyer use to find MY image. Alamy does some of that, but it's flawed and I have many with no data. To which Alamy says, they might have must bee browsing, that People do none searches and just browse? I don't think so. I think they have problems with getting the data.

SS interesting and useful as I have found what words people used to download the image. This one I found amusing. It has many downloads by the way.

    amelia
    52.6%
    earhart
    42.1%
    aviatrix
    5.3%

   
This tells me from my grand list for racing, what words buyers actually used. Most of the downloads have the same words, except when they used a specific drivers name or something like NASCAR Truck Series.


    car
    35.4%
    race
    30.4%
    prix
    8.9%
    grand
    8.9%
    formula
    5.1%
    sport
    5.1%
    motorsport
    3.8%
    speedways
    1.3%
    sportscar
    1.3%

No need to add words that buyers don't use? Or should I add, some most searched words, just to be seen, in case someone looking for something, should suddenly get the urge to download a photo of a race car instead?  ::)
« Last Edit: October 07, 2022, 13:04 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2022, 13:33 »
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Uncle Pete, no need to spam. If your image matches the words or phrases that buyers are most likely to search for, you insert them into your tags. If not, don't post. Also, according to this data, you will find out what the buyer is looking for, and you can create content for these requests.
It is clear that if your image is from another industry, it will not be bought, and you may be banned for spamming.
https://contributor.pond5.com/2022/09/26/buyer-requests-us-politics-all-saints-day-around-the-world-remembrance-day/
I dont remember exactly whether Pond5 published every week a list of the most frequently searched words, or shutterstock. Everyone knew this, you could write in support of these sites and they will give links to these pages. But I stopped tracking it, because. every week, buyers searched for different words and phrases. It is a separate big job to monitor these words, and then insert them into your work.

« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2022, 13:42 »
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Some stocks publish the words that buyers most often search for. So there are not only words, but also phrases. If you take these words and insert them into your work, then you will be found more often.

search algorithms likely see no difference between tags "red", "flowers" & "red flowers"

main reason to include tag phrases is to disambiguate:  "red river" & "river" rather than "red", "river"
I used to insert phrases into tags, but by the phrase, the search gave my videos up, exactly by the phrase. If a buyer searches by a phrase, and this phrase is your separate tag, they will see your image first.

p.s. It may be different on different sites.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2022, 13:57 »
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Some stocks publish the words that buyers most often search for. So there are not only words, but also phrases. If you take these words and insert them into your work, then you will be found more often.

Can you say which ones and how I can find these lists? Thanks

« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2022, 14:40 »
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 ...

SS interesting and useful as I have found what words people used to download the image. This one I found amusing. It has many downloads by the way.

    amelia
    52.6%
    earhart
    42.1%
    aviatrix
    5.3%
...

something we haven't considered is how the buyer found the image - did they go to SS directly? or did they find the image thru google?

for the latter, something is lost - searching for "amelia earhart aviatrix" and clicking on the SS image google found, the link google sent to SS is "https://www.shutterstock.com/search/aviatrix", losing the other words the user entered. (in this case the majority of images happened to be of AE, with a scattering of generic illustrations )

« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2022, 12:01 »
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Some stocks publish the words that buyers most often search for. So there are not only words, but also phrases. If you take these words and insert them into your work, then you will be found more often.

Can you say which ones and how I can find these lists? Thanks
On the site pond5 for photos, videos, vectors you can see. Most likely they are updated every week. This is what most buyers are looking for in the search. If you have these words, then depending on the rating of the image, they will be viewed. I am sure that other stocks also have statistics, and you need to write to support and demand that they report it. So depending on what stock you are interested in.
I am attaching a screenshot, on which you will see how to view popular tags on Pond5.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2022, 13:17 »
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 ...

SS interesting and useful as I have found what words people used to download the image. This one I found amusing. It has many downloads by the way.

    amelia
    52.6%
    earhart
    42.1%
    aviatrix
    5.3%
...

something we haven't considered is how the buyer found the image - did they go to SS directly? or did they find the image thru google?

for the latter, something is lost - searching for "amelia earhart aviatrix" and clicking on the SS image google found, the link google sent to SS is "https://www.shutterstock.com/search/aviatrix", losing the other words the user entered. (in this case the majority of images happened to be of AE, with a scattering of generic illustrations )

That could explain why Alamy has so many with no words searched. The buyer came from offsite and didn't use the search.

Which is a reminder why good Titles/Captions/Descriptions are so important.  :)

So the fact that "amelia earhart aviatrix" adds up to 100%, only applies to searches that came from inside SS, or partners, or someplace directly connected. To know if that 100% was what percentage of the sales, they would also have to tell me how many were used, to calculate the percentages and I could see if the numbers were equal, before I conclude that only the three words shown were used. Fair enough. But I will say, that when 100% is 100% and it's only three words, I think I have some sort of math evidence as well?

Just for fun, some of the deeper keywords that I have added to some images, things where I'm on the top half of the page, with six images, I have no sales showing that anyone ever used that word or another very specific term, to find and buy an image. So much for my great deep thinking and using a thesaurus.


« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2022, 13:40 »
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Here every month information is updated on tags, phrases, topics that buyers are looking for. Go to the section you need and see the statistics.
https://contributor.pond5.com/data-trends/

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2022, 12:59 »
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Pond5 Photo

horror
+ 252.00 %
baby
- 2.96 %
meditation
+ 128.57 %
kitchen
- 4.48 %
nature landscape
+ 120.69 %
buy
- 5.88 %
scary
+ 25.79 %
cars
- 15.58 %
Christmas
+ 7.69 %
abstract
- 31.91 %
American flag
+ 5.79 %
download
- 32.99 %

Seems pretty sensible for Halloween, Autumn, and Christmas coming up.


 

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