Author Topic: Dreamstime- Request for additional Format for customer (Read 5146 times)

tab62 · « **on:** December 06, 2012, 15:14 »

Just got this from Dreamstime- No mention about additional $$$ to me for my original image (RAW).

Dear Thomas,

This notification was sent by a potential buyer, who is interested in downloading one of your files in additional format.

If you are able to provide such format, please use the following link to upload the file:

Buyer needs the raw image.

Should you be unable to provide this specific format or do not want to upload it click the following link:

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The buyer will be informed that an additional format is not available and may download the JPG version instead.

Please use the links provided according to your case. Our clients rely on us to provide feedback on their requests.

Mantis · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:32 »

In my opinion don't do it. Not worth providing your raw file (if that's what you shoot) for the peanuts they give for it. I've gotten several of these and just decline.

tab62 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:37 »

Thanks Mantis. I do shoot only in RAW (CR2) thus not willing to give up that original unless they grease my pocket with some extra $$

dbvirago · « **Reply #3 on:** December 06, 2012, 15:41 »

I've had these before and there is no extra $$$. Whatever the normal image would sell for given the size and rights is what you will get for the RAW.

tab62 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:08 »

I guess I can apply the police rule - " A Cop never relinquishes their weapon no matter what" Thus a Photographer Never Relinquishes their RAW image-never"

Mantis · « **Reply #5 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:13 »

Quote from: dbvirago on December 06, 2012, 15:41

I've had these before and there is no extra $$$. Whatever the normal image would sell for given the size and rights is what you will get for the RAW.

You are only partly correct.

Additional Format (credits) (vector/RAW) double the royalties for the largest size available for download
Additional Format (subscription) (vector/RAW) standard subscription royalties (NOTHING EXTRA)

Now, why in the world would anyone provide the raw file for no additional compensation? Even doubling the price on credits won't get you a beer and bowl of peanuts at the pub.

click_click · « **Reply #6 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:18 »

Quote from: dbvirago on December 06, 2012, 15:41

I've had these before and there is no extra $$$. Whatever the normal image would sell for given the size and rights is what you will get for the RAW.

Really?

I was under the impression that RAW files will be handled the same way like EPS for example which means they will earn you double of how much the uploaded size usually earns.

I could be wrong though.

RAW files should still be priced higher than that of course but DT will ALWAYS take 50% of the deal which is not fair either especially when selling the rights for let's say $3000. I wouldn't mind giving DT 15% for that deal but definitely NOT 50%.

tab62 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:26 »

I fired back to DT what is my $$ - I will let you all know what they say back...

Mantis · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:37 »

Quote from: tab62 on December 06, 2012, 16:26

I fired back to DT what is my $$ - I will let you all know what they say back...

Read my post above.

stockastic · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2012, 16:52 »

I don't know why DT wastes our time and theirs with requests to give away our RAW files.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2012, 17:20 »

The last time I had one of those it was for an image that wasn't too great and I could see why they might want the raw file. I wanted to see wheat would happen so uploaded the raw file three times - rejected each time saying they couldn't read the format. After that I just told them I didn't have it.

stockastic · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2012, 17:35 »

I suspect that the buyer doesn't really want my Nikon .NEF file, but rather an unprocessed TIFF. Which I'd be happy to generate for a few bucks. But DT apparently isn't able to arrange a such a complex deal

tab62 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2012, 20:24 »

after looking at the raw file I realized it had the address of the house and other things that I couldn't release the file anyway thus declined their offer...

heywoody · « **Reply #13 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:05 »

Quote from: Mantis on December 06, 2012, 16:13

Quote from: dbvirago on December 06, 2012, 15:41
I've had these before and there is no extra $$$. Whatever the normal image would sell for given the size and rights is what you will get for the RAW.

You are only partly correct.

Additional Format (credits) (vector/RAW) double the royalties for the largest size available for download
Additional Format (subscription) (vector/RAW) standard subscription royalties (NOTHING EXTRA)

Now, why in the world would anyone provide the raw file for no additional compensation? Even doubling the price on credits won't get you a beer and bowl of peanuts at the pub.

That's interesting... Since they sterted accepting pngs I've been routinely uploading a png with each isolation and have yet to see a png sale - on the other hand, tons of subs isolation sales $:-\$

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:20 »

It simply isn't worth the time and effort to dig out and upload a RAW file just for one sale of a dollar or two, regardless of everything else.

rimglow · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2012, 13:20 »

Quote from: heywoody on December 07, 2012, 10:05

That's interesting... Since they sterted accepting pngs I've been routinely uploading a png with each isolation and have yet to see a png sale - on the other hand, tons of subs isolation sales $:-\$

I also include additional format PNGs with my uploads. I sell about 4 PNGs for each 20 that are downloaded. Even if it's a sub sale, it's easy and might lead to a buyer choosing my file over another. Always looking for a sales advantage. (I did have one sell for 50 credits)

heywoody · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2012, 07:48 »

Actually just noticed a few "additional" sales - unfortunately subs but, as you say, a sale is a sale that might not have happened with a jpg

louoates · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2012, 13:26 »

I've had a dozen or so raw requests through DT. Every time I emailed them about additional money IF I wanted to sell the raw file. I never received any answers. So I guess they are incompetent at selling raw files, incompetent at contributor relations, and incompetent at buyer relations. At least I have something definitive to rely on.

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