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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: steheap on June 30, 2013, 20:08
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I'm sure I'm first this month, but as it is a Sunday and buyers seem few and far between, I decided to work out earnings in advance. I ended the month about $100 down from last month to end up with about $1960. Shutterstock easily the best, with $955 and iS next with maybe $234 but it is hard to say without those PPs. All the rest were less than $100. Looking at the numbers, I think the smaller sites do seem to be suffering since the Google image changes. We know that GL has cut reviewers and I can't see any rosy pictures in the other sites either. I finally got a sale from Zoonar (from Getty as their partner) which netted about $40, but I can't rely on them. I've got about 4000 - 4500 images on most of the sites. iStock is 2800 but I have given up uploading to them again because I am working hard on my own stock site and would rather put the effort there.
So, overall, not great, but OK. Worrying about the future though - lets hope Symbio pulls it all together for us!
Steve
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SS up 10%, steady
FOT average, steady
DT weakening, turbulent.
The small ones are also weakening.
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Overall June was a bad month... :(... way under average :-[
SS - worst month since May 2012, - 27% compared with may 2013, - 5% compared with June 2012 >:( ???
FT - relative good month, steady increase ;)
DT - above average :-\ , but DT earnings are a small part of my total earnings
123RF - bad month :( , -52% compared with May 2013 ( the worst month of the year :) ), but +45% compared with June 2013.
Can Stock - above average month, steady increase.
The rest agencies are countless...
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Bad all across the board for me. Uploading new files all the time but making no difference. Depressing !!!
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Bad all across the board for me. Uploading new files all the time but making no difference. Depressing !!!
Same here, after one year in stock and adding 850 images I am not seeing any increase in $$ anymore.
I have hit my wall at the moment. So I have stopped uploading to all agencies for now. I am going to let my port generate the monthly peanuts and work on my symbiostock site instead. Once all my images and my new images are on my own site, I am going to upload to the agencies again.
It seems I can put in hours of work and see no reward, or upload nothing and get the same amount of $$. Easy choice.
Funny thing is though that the only agency still getting BMEs is 123. But I will be hitting the wall soon there as well is my guess.
My two biggest earners are SS and FAA and with that income (about 450 dollar per month) I am happy at the moment. The occasional bi-annual pay outs from the other low earners is considered bonus.
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Shutterstock: steady in my case
DT: up and down as always
Fotolia: worst month since 2011
unexpected, Zoonar: very good month!
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My earnings for June from the new agencies is 88 Dollars in total, up from 65 last month. This includes both photos and videos.
It is my third month as an independent.
For photos, the average earnings per download were as follows:
stocksy: 12.5, istock: 1.40, Dreamstime: 0.95, Fotolia: 0.60, Depositphotos: 0.30, Shutterstock 0.27, 123rf: 0.22
By sales volume the new agencies rank like this:
Fotolia(15),Shutterstock(13),Depositphotos(12),Dreamstime(3),Pond5(2) and then stocksy and 123rf both had one download.
No sales on alamy.
I am uploading my old portfolio slowly, always mixing new work with older files by theme. I have around 150 - 230 files on the different agencies. Acceptance is around 90%.
Total number of downloads on istock: 154 from 3400 files
Total number of downloads from new agencies (including video): 32
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iS: Compared to May 2013: $$ - 12%, dls -4%
Compared to June 2012: $$ -3%, dls -15%
Compared to June 2011: $$-27%; dls -50%
Alamy (RM): 7 sales, including two netting <$4. Offset by a 50% refund on one of my higher value sales from last August (sic).
FAA: nada
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My earnings January - June are up 2% from last year... but my portfolio is 22% larger (10 site average). Seems I too have found "the wall".
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Im up at SS. 619 DLS with 410 images. I think I added about 50 last month. If not it would have been about the same I think. Last month I had 511 DLS. FT is the same. About $1 up. Dreamstime is a bit up in DLS but down in earnings since I had many subscriptions there last month. Overall I see it's pretty stable and with SS that is very predictable I hope to grow steady every month.
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Shutterstock.
65.4 % Shutterstock
08.9 % Fotolia
08.4 % Dreamstime
06.2 % 123RF
03.2 % Veer
03.1 % DepositPhotos
02.4 % GLStockimages
01.2 % Bigstock
00.8 % Canstock
00.4 % Alamy
00.0 % Stockfresh
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Im up at SS. 619 DLS with 410 images. I think I added about 50 last month. If not it would have been about the same I think. Last month I had 511 DLS. FT is the same. About $1 up. Dreamstime is a bit up in DLS but down in earnings since I had many subscriptions there last month. Overall I see it's pretty stable and with SS that is very predictable I hope to grow steady every month.
Pfff, I have little over 500 dls on 825 images. You are doing very well.
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Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
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Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.
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On par with December 2012 - which was the worst month since my microstock beginnings in 2008 :P
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Terrible month. Switching things to "survival mode" :o
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Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.
Nothing. Just hoping.
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Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.
Hope is the last one to die...
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June was okay for me. Down 9% from May, which is typical for the month. Up 7% from June 2012. Year over year I was up 5%. SS was 49% of my total, up 81% over May, up 82% over June 2012 and up 12% year over year. #2 123RF was 23%, down 22% from May, up 38% over June 2012 and up 94% year over year. Every other agency was below 10%, with only PhotoDune beating 5%.
Based on averages, I expect July to beat June after a weak first week, with August my best month of the year.
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Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.
Hope is the last one to die...
You guys are vicious. Aren't there some kids in your neighborhood that need you to tell them that Santa doesn't exist? ;D
Besides, I've got a backup plan of a lucky rabbit's foot and various wishing wells.
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There's good news and bad news for me this month:
The ;D : Thanks to a direct stock photo sale last June (2012), that had been my BME until April 2013 topped it. This June has beaten last June by 35% thanks to another direct license to a large publisher, as well as a nice sale on FAA (even if I don't count the $189 - net to me - from the print sale of one of my editorial stock images on FAA, I still top last June, making this my third BME for stock photo sales).
The :'( : Alamy is half what it was last June (but it's so erratic for me there since licensing fees vary so widely), SS is slightly up from last June but just barely and still at about 50% of what I had been anticipating given strong growth there in late 2012-early 2013 (i.e., it's even with last's month's underperformance), DT is more than double last June and actually neck-and-neck with SS, but half what it was before they started knocking down the sub prices for levels 4 & 5.
The ??? : iS is double last June even without PP, but my port there is so tiny (<45 photos), so even huge jumps up & down aren't significant given my small numbers. The amounts earned on fotolia and bigstock aren't even worth mentioning, though I'm getting a payout from fotolia this month, so that's a :) .
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BMY, because of 2 sales in FAA which were around 200$ each. 1 sale in Alamy at the end of month for 83$ (net to me, gross = 166$), 2 sales in photoshelter, however just small websize images for 28$ each. SS earning was mainly because of video.. rest all micro gave micro earnings.. but ok for my small port.
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I was up slightly on all sites except SS where I was down 16% in sales but up 24% in DL's. Mostly subs this month :'(
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Some more data:
Shutter
Fotolia
123RF
Canstock
Deposit
Photodune
Graphic Leftovers
775 images average
Downloads +2.50% To previous month
Earnings -9.61% To previous month
More downloads, less money.
Going to drop but not delete:
Deposit
Photodune
Graphic Leftovers
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FT: Above Avg :D
DP: Above Avg :D
123rf: Avg :)
SS: Avg :)
DT: Below Avg :(
IS: Below Avg (no PP) :(
Can: Below Avg :(
BS: bottom feeder :o
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June was a bit better than June last year (which was my worst month of the Year in 2012). On the other hand, it it was worse than May - just about 75% of May's earnings.
SS : 49%
FT : 27%
DT: 16%
123rf: 7%
Loosing more and more faith in 123rf - worst RPI, worst RPD - and falling.
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SS the only one that sales for me. IS, DP, FT - 0
How is the Stocksy doin? Never saw sales numbers. I still hope they do well :)
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Quite surprised by June. Thought it wasn't going to be too great to begin with, but a few decent sales here and there made all the difference, to make it a BME for me.
THE GOOD
DT - Almost a BME
123 - Almost a BME
DP - BME
FT - BME
PD - BME
FAA - BME by far
P5 - BME
BS - Almost a BME
THE NOT SO GOOD
SS - Down a bit (2 months in a row they have dropped down a bit for me)
ALAMY - Worst Month in a long time
YAY - On a very dry streak there
GL - Terrible
BUT BY FAR THE BEST
thpstockphotos.com (http://thpstockphotos.com) - BME! (well, first sale - $11 early in the month) :)
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Very steady and going up. Enough said.
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Down 28% compared to May, and 8% compared to June 2012. Four best: Zazzle, Shutterstock, DepositPhotos, Dreamstime
More at: http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/07/stock-photography-sales-statistic-june.html (http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/07/stock-photography-sales-statistic-june.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306all590px_zps3c0c862f.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306all590px_zps3c0c862f.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306top590px_zps63d14cb9.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306top590px_zps63d14cb9.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306total590px_zps142ff0c9.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306total590px_zps142ff0c9.jpg.html)
(Statistic includes income from affiliate/referral)
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Earnings + 37%
Volume + 25%
SS ++
IS +
FT -
DT --
123 -
Beeldbank ++ (local player)
Veer -
BS 0
Canstock 0
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Really bad month Dollarwise. Down 5% from May, and down 18% from last year.
What is really so very frustrating is that my actual download NUMBERS are UP from last year at most agencies, but because of their dropping prices and/or royalties, earnings are way down.
This tells me that, in my case at least, it is not competition, quality of content, or frequency of uploading that is at fault. The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us. Really extremely discouraging.
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Bad month : 15% down compared to June 2012. Weird thing is that most agencies went up a bit, but Fotolia and Istock went down so much, that the others couldn't make up for the loss. SS went up 4%, but that's only because of a few EL's : SOD's and downloads went down more than 10%.
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Similar experience to Lisa, my download figures are significantly up on previous years but my dollar income is way down on last year and the year before - the result of the unfortunate fact that more downloads are now happening at SS and with a much lower RPD than at other agencies the future doesn't look rosy if this is to continue :(
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Yep, SS, DT all dire for me. They hardly move with MORE FILES ADDED all the time. Bleak :-\
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june started out as a bad month for me - at week 3 it was headed for worst in over a year - then the last week had ELs at 3 different sites which gave me 3rd BME and 2nd BME at SS
meanwhile in its first month my symbiostock site beat istock, big, alamy, photodune, most, yay, dp and gl
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june started out as a bad month for me - at week 3 it was headed for worst in over a year - then the last week had ELs at 3 different sites which gave me 3rd BME and 2nd BME at SS
meanwhile in its first month my symbiostock site beat istock, big, alamy, photodune, most, yay, dp and gl
Wow! 8)
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iStock looking very poor for photo sales - just calculated that my RPI for photos at IS during June 13 was 0.16 compared to Shutterstock RPI 0.70. My 50 exclusive audio files at IS made more than the 1340 non-exclusive photos files! Decided I am no longer uploading photos to IS, may as well concentrate on the audio side now.
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Just added up my totals. I was driving across the country before this. June was a lousy month my worst month since April 2011. SS had the lowest total number of downloads since dec 2010. A few EL and SOD etc. sales kept the $ total from being super dire. Alamy was almost nothing. DT was ok, but in general all of the sites were either average or below average and not surprisingly the total was well below average. Hopefully this is not a permanent trend, but since SS killed my best seller I am not feeling very optimistic right now.
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Lousy month.. sales down almost 8% from June last year with about 800 or so images added in year. One doesn't need a crystal bowl anymore to see where microstock is headed .. (hoping to be wrong - the perennial optimist!
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down about 15% - or $400 bucks. That's estimating pp at $200. Doubt I will make up jack with PP......if we ever see it:)
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Had a $3plus sale from DT but rest were subs. 123RF had most sales but like i said mostly subs. Very small ports - very little money. I'm satisfied trying to build up my ports (all those rejections >:().
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Not so long ago I was finding it near impossible to get a file into my Istock library. Now I hardly get a rejection.
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Not so long ago I was finding it near impossible to get a file into my Istock library. Now I hardly get a rejection.
Yeah, but in the Good Old Days, new files got their day in the sun in the Best Match and had a chance of getting sales.
Now files sink like stones in the best match within a day or two, and anyway, the default search, while still saying best match could be showing 'downloads' (usually) or 'age' (occasionally), and you I can't change it to best match without going via another sort. So e.g. I search. I get a result and it says at the top 'Best Match' which should be the default. It's not a best match search, but refreshing doesn't fix it, I have to work out which sort it actually is (usually downloads) then choose a different sort (e.g. age or contributor) then choose 'Best Match'.
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The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us.
If I could give one heart a day for the next month, you would get 30!
(http://s5.postimg.org/w8zoupq3n/cool_up.gif) (http://postimage.org/)
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The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us.
If I could give one heart a day for the next month, you would get 30!
([url]http://s5.postimg.org/w8zoupq3n/cool_up.gif[/url]) ([url]http://postimage.org/[/url])
Thanks Pete - I'd take em.... but rather have the money Istock's lost me ;D
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June 2013 down $ by 20% compared to June 2012. All iStock
June 2012 however had some nice ELs without which it would be about even.
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I've finally managed to put the time into creating my graphs and commentary on my blog. Amazing how it doesn't seem important to do that when it is a poor month! Anyway, the main graphs are there now.
Here is a taster!
Steve
(http://www.backyardsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/EarningsJun2013.png)
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Wooyay! June Getty sales were great and made it a surprising best June ever.
How many Junes have you actually had in microstock?
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I have hit my wall at the moment. So I have stopped uploading to all agencies for now. I am going to let my port generate the monthly peanuts and work on my symbiostock site instead. Once all my images and my new images are on my own site, I am going to upload to the agencies again.
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