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Title: Earnings in June
Post by: steheap on June 30, 2013, 20:08
I'm sure I'm first this month, but as it is a Sunday and buyers seem few and far between, I decided to work out earnings in advance. I ended the month about $100 down from last month to end up with about $1960. Shutterstock easily the best, with $955 and iS next with maybe $234 but it is hard to say without those PPs. All the rest were less than $100. Looking at the numbers, I think the smaller sites do seem to be suffering since the Google image changes. We know that GL has cut reviewers and I can't see any rosy pictures in the other sites either. I finally got a sale from Zoonar (from Getty as their partner) which netted about $40, but I can't rely on them.  I've got about 4000 - 4500 images on most of the sites. iStock is 2800 but I have given up uploading to them again because I am working hard on my own stock site and would rather put the effort there.

So, overall, not great, but OK. Worrying about the future though - lets hope Symbio pulls it all together for us!

Steve
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: JPSDK on June 30, 2013, 21:12
SS up 10%, steady
FOT average, steady
DT weakening, turbulent.

The small ones are also weakening.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: nicku on July 01, 2013, 00:28
Overall June was a bad month... :(... way under average :-[

SS - worst month since May 2012, - 27% compared with may 2013, - 5% compared with June 2012  >:( ???
FT - relative good month, steady increase  ;)
DT - above average  :-\ , but DT earnings are a small part of my total earnings
123RF - bad month  :( , -52% compared with May 2013 ( the worst month of the year :) ),  but +45% compared with June 2013.
Can Stock - above average month, steady increase.

The rest agencies are countless...
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Phadrea on July 01, 2013, 03:45
Bad all across the board for me. Uploading new files all the time but making no difference. Depressing !!!
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Ron on July 01, 2013, 03:55
Bad all across the board for me. Uploading new files all the time but making no difference. Depressing !!!
Same here, after one year in stock and adding 850 images I am not seeing any increase in $$ anymore.

I have hit my wall at the moment. So I have stopped uploading to all agencies for now. I am going to let my port generate the monthly peanuts and work on my symbiostock site instead. Once all my images and my new images are on my own site, I am going to upload to the agencies again.

It seems I can put in hours of work and see no reward, or upload nothing and get the same amount of $$. Easy choice.

Funny thing is though that the only agency still getting BMEs is 123. But I will be hitting the wall soon there as well is my guess.

My two biggest earners are SS and FAA and with that income (about 450 dollar per month) I am happy at the moment. The occasional bi-annual pay outs from the other low earners is considered bonus.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: roede-orm on July 01, 2013, 04:40
Shutterstock: steady in my case
DT: up and down as always
Fotolia: worst month since 2011


unexpected, Zoonar: very good month!
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: cobalt on July 01, 2013, 05:23
My earnings for June from the new agencies is 88 Dollars in total, up from 65 last month. This includes both photos and videos.

It is my third month as an independent.

For photos, the average earnings per download were as follows:

stocksy: 12.5, istock: 1.40, Dreamstime: 0.95, Fotolia: 0.60, Depositphotos: 0.30, Shutterstock 0.27, 123rf: 0.22

By sales volume the new agencies rank like this:

Fotolia(15),Shutterstock(13),Depositphotos(12),Dreamstime(3),Pond5(2) and then stocksy and 123rf both had one download.

No sales on alamy.

I am uploading my old portfolio slowly, always mixing new work with older files by theme. I have around 150 - 230 files on the different agencies. Acceptance is around 90%.


Total number of downloads on istock: 154 from 3400 files

Total number of downloads from new agencies (including video): 32


Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: ShadySue on July 01, 2013, 05:28
iS: Compared to May 2013: $$ - 12%, dls -4%
     Compared to June 2012: $$ -3%, dls -15%
     Compared to June 2011: $$-27%; dls -50%

Alamy (RM): 7 sales, including two netting <$4. Offset by a 50% refund on one of my higher value sales from last August (sic).

FAA: nada
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: trek on July 01, 2013, 07:36
My earnings January - June are up 2% from last year... but my portfolio is 22% larger (10 site average).  Seems I too have found "the wall". 
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Mactrunk on July 01, 2013, 07:41
Im up at SS. 619 DLS with 410 images. I think I added about 50 last month. If not it would have been about the same I think. Last month I had 511 DLS. FT is the same. About $1 up. Dreamstime is a bit up in DLS but down in earnings since I had many subscriptions there last month. Overall I see it's pretty stable and with SS that is very predictable I hope to grow steady every month.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Metsafile on July 01, 2013, 09:26
Shutterstock.

65.4 % Shutterstock
08.9 % Fotolia
08.4 % Dreamstime
06.2 % 123RF
03.2 % Veer
03.1 % DepositPhotos
02.4 % GLStockimages
01.2 % Bigstock
00.8 % Canstock
00.4 % Alamy
00.0 % Stockfresh
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Ron on July 01, 2013, 10:00
Im up at SS. 619 DLS with 410 images. I think I added about 50 last month. If not it would have been about the same I think. Last month I had 511 DLS. FT is the same. About $1 up. Dreamstime is a bit up in DLS but down in earnings since I had many subscriptions there last month. Overall I see it's pretty stable and with SS that is very predictable I hope to grow steady every month.

Pfff, I have little over 500 dls on 825 images. You are doing very well.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: cthoman on July 01, 2013, 10:19
Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Phadrea on July 01, 2013, 10:24
Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.

What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Ploink on July 01, 2013, 10:25
On par with December 2012 - which was the worst month since my microstock beginnings in 2008   :P
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Tror on July 01, 2013, 10:29
Terrible month. Switching things to "survival mode"  :o
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: cthoman on July 01, 2013, 10:33
Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.

What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.

Nothing. Just hoping.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Tror on July 01, 2013, 10:34
Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.

What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.

Hope is the last one to die...
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: disorderly on July 01, 2013, 10:41
June was okay for me.  Down 9% from May, which is typical for the month.  Up 7% from June 2012.  Year over year I was up 5%.  SS was 49% of my total, up 81% over May, up 82% over June 2012 and up 12% year over year.  #2 123RF was 23%, down 22% from May, up 38% over June 2012 and up 94% year over year.  Every other agency was below 10%, with only PhotoDune beating 5%.

Based on averages, I expect July to beat June after a weak first week, with August my best month of the year.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: cthoman on July 01, 2013, 10:58
Worst month of the year. Hopefully, things pick up in July.

What makes you think that ? It will be the full on holiday season.

Hope is the last one to die...

You guys are vicious. Aren't there some kids in your neighborhood that need you to tell them that Santa doesn't exist?  ;D

Besides, I've got a backup plan of a lucky rabbit's foot and various wishing wells.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: wordplanet on July 01, 2013, 12:22
There's good news and bad news for me this month:

The   ;D : Thanks to a direct stock photo sale last June (2012), that had been my BME until April 2013 topped it. This June has beaten last June by 35% thanks to another direct license to a large publisher, as well as a nice sale on FAA (even if I don't count the $189 - net to me - from the print sale of one of my editorial stock images on FAA, I still top last June, making this my third BME for stock photo sales).

The  :'(  : Alamy is half what it was last June (but it's so erratic for me there since licensing fees vary so widely), SS is slightly up from last June but just barely and still at about 50% of what I had been anticipating given strong growth there in late 2012-early 2013 (i.e., it's even with last's month's underperformance), DT is more than double last June and actually neck-and-neck with SS, but half what it was before they started knocking down the sub prices for levels 4 & 5.

The  ??? : iS is double last June even without PP, but my port there is so tiny (<45 photos), so even huge jumps up & down aren't significant given my small numbers. The amounts earned on fotolia and bigstock aren't even worth mentioning, though I'm getting a payout from fotolia this month, so that's a  :) .
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: gemmy12 on July 01, 2013, 12:32
BMY, because of 2 sales in FAA which were around 200$ each. 1 sale in Alamy at the end of month for 83$ (net to me, gross = 166$), 2 sales in photoshelter, however just small websize images for 28$ each. SS earning was mainly because of video.. rest all micro gave micro earnings.. but ok for my small port.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Donvanstaden on July 01, 2013, 12:37
I was up slightly on all sites except SS where I was down 16% in sales but up 24% in DL's. Mostly subs this month  :'(
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Ron on July 01, 2013, 12:38
Some more data:
Shutter
Fotolia
123RF
Canstock
Deposit
Photodune
Graphic Leftovers

775 images average
Downloads +2.50%   To previous month
Earnings -9.61%   To previous month

More downloads, less money.

Going to drop but not delete:
Deposit
Photodune
Graphic Leftovers

Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: MisterElements on July 01, 2013, 14:13
FT: Above Avg  :D
DP: Above Avg   :D

123rf: Avg  :)
SS: Avg       :)

DT: Below Avg   :(
IS: Below Avg (no PP)   :(
Can: Below Avg    :(

BS: bottom feeder   :o

Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Mellimage on July 01, 2013, 14:56
June was a bit better than June last year (which was my worst month of the Year in 2012). On the other hand, it it was worse than May - just about 75% of May's earnings.
SS : 49%
FT : 27%
DT: 16%
123rf:  7%

Loosing more and more faith in 123rf - worst RPI, worst RPD - and falling.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Petr Toman on July 01, 2013, 15:16
SS the only one that sales for me. IS, DP, FT - 0

How is the Stocksy doin? Never saw sales numbers. I still hope they do well :)
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: THP Creative on July 01, 2013, 19:12
Quite surprised by June. Thought it wasn't going to be too great to begin with, but a few decent sales here and there made all the difference, to make it a BME for me.

THE GOOD
DT - Almost a BME
123 - Almost a BME
DP - BME
FT - BME
PD - BME
FAA - BME by far
P5 - BME
BS - Almost a BME

THE NOT SO GOOD
SS - Down a bit (2 months in a row they have dropped down a bit for me)
ALAMY - Worst Month in a long time
YAY - On a very dry streak there
GL - Terrible

BUT BY FAR THE BEST
thpstockphotos.com (http://thpstockphotos.com) - BME! (well, first sale - $11 early in the month) :)

Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: bspudd on July 01, 2013, 20:03
Very steady and going up. Enough said.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: oboy on July 02, 2013, 00:45
Down 28% compared to May, and 8% compared to June 2012. Four best: Zazzle, Shutterstock, DepositPhotos, Dreamstime

More at: http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/07/stock-photography-sales-statistic-june.html (http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2013/07/stock-photography-sales-statistic-june.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306all590px_zps3c0c862f.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306all590px_zps3c0c862f.jpg.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306top590px_zps63d14cb9.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306top590px_zps63d14cb9.jpg.html)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/hlehnerer/SalesStat/201306total590px_zps142ff0c9.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/hlehnerer/media/SalesStat/201306total590px_zps142ff0c9.jpg.html)

(Statistic includes income from affiliate/referral)
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: ignard on July 02, 2013, 05:10
Earnings + 37%
Volume   + 25%

SS              ++
IS               +
FT               -
DT               --
123             -
Beeldbank ++ (local player)
Veer           -
BS              0
Canstock    0
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: tickstock on July 02, 2013, 10:53
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Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: lisafx on July 02, 2013, 12:22
Really bad month Dollarwise.  Down 5% from May, and down 18% from last year. 

What is really so very frustrating is that my actual download NUMBERS are UP from last year at most agencies, but because of their dropping prices and/or royalties, earnings are way down. 

This tells me that, in my case at least, it is not competition, quality of content, or frequency of uploading that is at fault. The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us.  Really extremely discouraging. 
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Anyka on July 02, 2013, 15:32
Bad month :  15% down compared to June 2012.  Weird thing is that most agencies went up a bit, but Fotolia and Istock went down so much, that the others couldn't make up for the loss.  SS went up 4%, but that's only because of a few EL's :   SOD's and downloads went down more than 10%.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: RT on July 02, 2013, 15:42
Similar experience to Lisa, my download figures are significantly up on previous years but my dollar income is way down on last year and the year before - the result of the unfortunate fact that more downloads are now happening at SS and with a much lower RPD than at other agencies the future doesn't look rosy if this is to continue  :(
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Phadrea on July 02, 2013, 18:28
Yep, SS, DT all dire for me. They hardly move with MORE FILES ADDED all the time. Bleak  :-\
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: cascoly on July 02, 2013, 18:31
june started out as a bad month for me - at week 3 it was headed for worst in over a year - then the last week had ELs at 3 different sites  which gave me 3rd BME and 2nd BME at SS

meanwhile in its first month my symbiostock site beat istock, big, alamy, photodune, most, yay, dp and gl
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: ShadySue on July 02, 2013, 18:40
june started out as a bad month for me - at week 3 it was headed for worst in over a year - then the last week had ELs at 3 different sites  which gave me 3rd BME and 2nd BME at SS

meanwhile in its first month my symbiostock site beat istock, big, alamy, photodune, most, yay, dp and gl
Wow!  8)
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Jogga0 on July 03, 2013, 02:59
iStock looking very poor for photo sales - just calculated that my RPI for photos at IS during June 13 was 0.16 compared to Shutterstock RPI 0.70. My 50 exclusive audio files at IS made more than the 1340 non-exclusive photos files! Decided I am no longer uploading photos to IS, may as well concentrate on the audio side now.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: pancaketom on July 03, 2013, 16:38
Just added up my totals. I was driving across the country before this. June was a lousy month my worst month since April 2011. SS had the lowest total number of downloads since dec 2010. A few EL and SOD etc. sales kept the $ total from being super dire. Alamy was almost nothing. DT was ok, but in general all of the sites were either average or below average and not surprisingly the total was well below average. Hopefully this is not a permanent trend, but since SS killed my best seller I am not feeling very optimistic right now.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: sdeva on July 04, 2013, 08:24
Lousy month.. sales down almost 8% from June last year with about 800 or so images added in year.  One doesn't need a crystal bowl anymore to see where microstock is headed .. (hoping to be wrong - the perennial optimist!
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Mantis on July 04, 2013, 17:58
down about 15% - or $400 bucks. That's estimating pp at $200.  Doubt I will make up jack with PP......if we ever see it:)
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2013, 11:27
  Had  a  $3plus  sale  from  DT  but  rest  were  subs.  123RF  had  most  sales  but  like  i  said  mostly  subs.  Very  small  ports  -  very  little  money.  I'm  satisfied  trying  to  build up  my  ports  (all  those  rejections   >:().
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Phadrea on July 08, 2013, 02:38
Not so long ago I was finding it near impossible to get a file into my Istock library. Now I hardly get a rejection.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: ShadySue on July 08, 2013, 04:38
Not so long ago I was finding it near impossible to get a file into my Istock library. Now I hardly get a rejection.
Yeah, but in the Good Old Days, new files got their day in the sun in the Best Match and had a chance of getting sales.
Now files sink like stones in the best match within a day or two, and anyway, the default search, while still saying best match could be showing 'downloads' (usually) or 'age' (occasionally), and you I can't change it to best match without going via another sort. So e.g. I search. I get a result and it says at the top 'Best Match' which should be the default. It's not a best match search, but refreshing doesn't fix it, I have to work out which sort it actually is (usually downloads) then choose a different sort (e.g. age or contributor) then choose 'Best Match'.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: Uncle Pete on July 08, 2013, 08:42

The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us.



If I could give one heart a day for the next month, you would get 30! 

(http://s5.postimg.org/w8zoupq3n/cool_up.gif) (http://postimage.org/)

Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: lisafx on July 08, 2013, 18:34

The fault lies squarely with the agencies who are shafting us.



If I could give one heart a day for the next month, you would get 30! 

([url]http://s5.postimg.org/w8zoupq3n/cool_up.gif[/url]) ([url]http://postimage.org/[/url])


Thanks Pete - I'd take em.... but rather have the money Istock's lost me ;D
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: raclro on July 09, 2013, 14:55
June 2013 down $  by 20% compared to June 2012.  All iStock
June 2012 however had some nice ELs without which it would be about even.
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: steheap on July 09, 2013, 15:00
I've finally managed to put the time into creating my graphs and commentary on my blog. Amazing how it doesn't seem important to do that when it is a poor month! Anyway, the main graphs are there now.

Here is a taster!

Steve

(http://www.backyardsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/EarningsJun2013.png)
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: tickstock on July 27, 2013, 11:41
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Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: gostwyck on July 27, 2013, 12:59
Wooyay!  June Getty sales were great and made it a surprising best June ever.

How many Junes have you actually had in microstock?
Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: tickstock on July 27, 2013, 13:04
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Title: Re: Earnings in June
Post by: henrytrinh on July 05, 2016, 22:13
I have hit my wall at the moment. So I have stopped uploading to all agencies for now. I am going to let my port generate the monthly peanuts and work on my symbiostock site instead. Once all my images and my new images are on my own site, I am going to upload to the agencies again.

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