If I were you, I'd offer him 40% of the profit and pay him around 50 $ a month so that he doesn't feel that it all might be a waste of time should you see no sales. Regards, Lj

Just wondering how your friend will know if a sale has been made. Will your partner have permanent access to your account?

It's always better something than nothing... And, if you can get something with no significant effort it is ok... But, I am more for 1/3 of earnings to give to your partner...

Well, I know for sure that I wouldn't want to be the partner. It's not very encouraging to know that I'd only make money when a sale occurs.

Not only that I needed a lot of trust (if not even access to the account myself) but also the time involved may be a very risky venture.

If I'd be a college kid with all my bills being paid maybe, but only then.

From your side as the photographer I wouldn't "outsource" anything. Sure you have a lot of images but Alamy doesn't require a lot of post processing to be accepted, unless your images require major retouching to get through QC.

If it's mostly just a matter of of color/exposure correcting and upsizing I'd try to upload 10 images a day, that's one hour a day, I think that's reasonable for someone who had the time to take "tens of thousands" of images before...

The person I'm considering has a full time job, so this would be something to hone his Photoshop skills and make extra cash.  Wasn't sure of the best method to pay him, hence why I put it out there for input.  Want to make sure its worth his time of course without giving out the farm as well.  Perhaps a monthly stipend along with percentage of sales would work best.

Agreed that I could spend an a hour a day, but between my day job, trying to submit to micros and also doing stock video, its time that I'm finding hard to find.

Yes, It's worth going through the process, I've traveled extensively and have a back log of quality images.  I wouldn't waste my time or someone else with snap shots.  My last trip alone I shot close to 20,000 images.

Just trying to find a way to clear the backlog of images and focused on what I enjoy more which is shooting more images.

What do volume shooters do in this situation?  When the amount of images outstrip the amount of time necessary to process and upload?  Most I would imagine probably are full timers and may hire full time help to do this.  I know there are keywording services out there that will do that part, but what about just doing everything else besides making the images?

 

A fair partnership is always 50:50 to me. That is also the reason I consider agencies that pay less than 50% as unfair.

Yes, It's worth going through the process, I've traveled extensively and have a back log of quality images.  I wouldn't waste my time or someone else with snap shots.  My last trip alone I shot close to 20,000 images.

That doesn't make me think you really have saleable images.  20,000?  I mean, do you take your finger off the shutter button?  That's a ridiculous number.

I would not say that a 50/50 split is always fair. Too many factors involved .. are you going to attack this as a business? If so where is the split for the business? Are you a fix it later photographer or do you shoot it right in the first place and produce raw images that look fully edited? 20 seconds vs. 20 minutes per image edit is going to play a big part in what determines a fair split ratio. Who will be handling or paying for the sale tracking and bookkeeping? Who is in charge of archiving? Who is in charge of keywording? Who is in charge of QC? Who is covering travel expenses, gear expenses, office expenses? Some people will think a 50/50 split is fair when actually a 90/10 or a 75/25 split is actually the fairest ratio. Every single little process needs to be broken down into effort and expense to determine what percentage both parties can call fair.

sjlocke ~ Was in Antarctica for the trip with 20k photos.  The scenery was fantastic, so I took more photos than a normal trip totals of 3 to 4k.

Exactly.  Vacation snaps.  Well, good look getting help to process them, although it sounds like you could just run a batch on the set.

I do have enough marketable images, vacation snaps aside.  Where having someone help me get them online is necessary if I want to increase my revenue.  Perhaps paying him an hourly wage would work too as apposed to a percentage.  I don't know its a bridge I'm crossing and looking for input.

Quote from: sjlocke on April 27, 2010, 20:05

Exactly.  Vacation snaps.  

Just because they are photos taken in a vacation trip, do they deserve the "snap" classification?

+1.

I believe lookstat have a service that would suit, but dont know how much it costs (and is geared for micro, whereas I still believe there is more money in macro agencies for travel images).