Author Topic: Stolen content available for sale (Read 12112 times)

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #25 on:** November 10, 2020, 12:41 »

Quote from: cathyslife on November 10, 2020, 12:28

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So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

No, and you know darn well that’s not what we’re saying. Bless your heart. LOL

I did and I'm done.

racist, rac·ism (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Quote from: Daryl Ray on November 08, 2020, 21:34

Regardless of the race, ethnicity, religion, location, gender or sexual preference of the thief, Shutterstock should operate under a zero tolerance policy on any account that uploads even one clip/image that is not theirs legally to upload. Flat out.

Just that would be ideal. Instead we play wack-a-mole and this isn't just SS, who seems to get all the blame for being the most attractive for thieves, just like everything a thief does, they go where there's the most money. Otherwise these people would be working sites that none of us would ever see. But then, they wouldn't make much, so it's not attractive. How does P5 do such a good job of preventing this?

We've been over this so many times. The agencies, hide behind a DMCA policy and don't seem to be concerned enough to aggressively chase off these crooks.

Even though we get different replies, there are accounts being removed, because of complaints, and not from the original artists. They do listen. They are just a wee bit hard of hearing.

My ban would be, everyone who's name doesn't start with a P, that's just fine with me?

To be honest, all accounts, like Daryl says, one stolen image, toss the bums.

cathyslife · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2020, 13:43 »

“Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity. Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.”

References.
Dennis, R.M. (2004). "Racism". In Kuper, A.; Kuper, J. (eds.). The Social Science Encyclopedia, Volume 2 (3rd ed.). London; New York: Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-35969-1. Racism [is] the idea that there is a direct correspondence between a group's values, behavior and attitudes, and its physical features [...] Racism is also a relatively new idea: its birth can be traced to the European colonization of much of the world, the rise and development of European capitalism, and the development of the European and US slave trade.
^ a b c Racism Oxford Dictionaries
^ a b c Ghani, Navid (2008). "Racism". In Schaefer, Richard T. (ed.). Encyclopedia of Race, Ethnicity, and Society. SAGE. pp. 1113–1115. ISBN 978-1-4129-2694-2.
^ Newman, D. M. (2012). Sociology : exploring the architecture of everyday life (9th ed.). Los Angeles: SAGE. p. 405. ISBN 978-1-4129-8729-5. racism: Belief that humans are subdivided into distinct groups that are different in their social behavior and innate capacities and that can be ranked as superior or inferior.

I can go on just as long as you can. Oh, but you said you’re done, so am I. 🙂

cathyslife · « **Reply #27 on:** November 10, 2020, 13:51 »

As far as the topic of the OP, stolen content has always been on the sites. Thieves should be banned, period. They won’t, and the thievery will continue.

zsooofija · « **Reply #28 on:** November 11, 2020, 05:36 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 10, 2020, 06:55

Quote from: zsooofija on November 08, 2020, 16:04
Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 08, 2020, 11:05
Quote from: zsooofija on November 08, 2020, 05:05
Quote from: Lola Ginabrigeta on October 12, 2020, 11:24
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?

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If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

LOL as one of the American Race now, I was making it clear that it's not race but the correct word is stereotyping, nothing more or less. And I think you read what I wrote which said: "If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads." because the agencies have IDs and payment accounts. Nothing about discrimination, which is another good word for restricting whole countries.

So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

racist, rac·ism (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

No one said a country is a race. And sure, you can pick the definition that suits your arguments. And I can pick the one that suits mine, so there is no point in arguing. Really. Or you can read more about this if you are interested because it is not as simple as you present it.

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

What is important is that no one should be discriminated based on the country she/he lives in. I had a 3 month restriction when I started stock photography, and I did nothing wrong ever (except being unlucky to be born in my country).

alan b traehern · « **Reply #29 on:** November 11, 2020, 08:10 »

Quote from: zsooofija on November 11, 2020, 05:36

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 10, 2020, 06:55
Quote from: zsooofija on November 08, 2020, 16:04
Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 08, 2020, 11:05
Quote from: zsooofija on November 08, 2020, 05:05
Quote from: Lola Ginabrigeta on October 12, 2020, 11:24
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

According to this logic, ebay or etsy should ban sellers from the USA because only this year I reported about a dozen users from the US selling my work without a proper license.
It should be judged on a case-by-case basis rather than based on the country you are living in. Agencies could do a much better job on checking/reacting, but since they are making money either way they don't care that much.

Just a point, since people are getting all up in arms. She said RESTRICT not ban.

I don't know why anyone here would defend image thieves, whether they are from (country name here) or anywhere else. SS does restrict some new users from some known hotbeds of thieves, fake accounts and where they are known for portfolios of entirely stolen images. Last I saw, it was 90 days before they can collect the first payout.

Someone else has said, agencies should do better ID checks. Funny how many times we've seen people complaining that the agency won't accept their ID or how the people don't want their private information in the hands of the agency. Darned if you do, darned if you don't?

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You may not sign up for an account with identification documents belonging to another individual, share an account with another individual, and/or share content with another Shutterstock contributor without prior consent from Shutterstock.

The “Make payments to” name in your account must be your full legal name as it appears on your identification documents; this is the name to which royalty payments will be made. For business accounts this field will contain the business name.

In order to make your Shutterstock account a business account, you must provide us with documentation as required by your country or state that indicates you are a principal owner of the business.

You may not open a second Shutterstock account without permission from Shutterstock.

You may not share the same online payment processing service account (like Payoneer, Paypal or Skrill) with another Shutterstock contributor.

If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads. But some places, it's much easier to get a fake ID, or possibly some agencies just are trusting, until something goes wrong?

The word for blaming a whole country or population for what a minority of individuals do is stereotyping or a generalization, maybe a negative ethnic bias? Nothing to do with race.

Racism is not just about race, it can be against a ethnic group also. (because scientifically race is not even thing - we all belong to the human race - but that is a whole other discussion).
I still think it should be agencies responsibility instead of these discriminatory practices (call them whatever you want).

LOL as one of the American Race now, I was making it clear that it's not race but the correct word is stereotyping, nothing more or less. And I think you read what I wrote which said: "If this is how they handle things, agencies should know precisely who is opening the account and who is responsible for the uploads." because the agencies have IDs and payment accounts. Nothing about discrimination, which is another good word for restricting whole countries.

So you and Cathy can keep insisting that a country is a race?

racist, rac·ism (rā′sĭz′əm)
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

No one said a country is a race. And sure, you can pick the definition that suits your arguments. And I can pick the one that suits mine, so there is no point in arguing. Really. Or you can read more about this if you are interested because it is not as simple as you present it.

Quote from: cathyslife on October 12, 2020, 12:48
Quote from: Lola Ginabrigeta on October 12, 2020, 11:24
Restrict new users from Ukraine.

Racist. 🙄
Cathy did Ukraine is a country

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

What is important is that no one should be discriminated based on the country she/he lives in. I had a 3 month restriction when I started stock photography, and I did nothing wrong ever (except being unlucky to be born in my country).

Unfortunate born in a country where image stealing is common. How much did you lose by waiting 90 days? Everybody from everywhere should have to wait 90 days.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #30 on:** November 11, 2020, 15:28 »

Quote from: alan b traehern on November 11, 2020, 08:10

racism
/ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/

noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Unfortunate born in a country where image stealing is common. How much did you lose by waiting 90 days? Everybody from everywhere should have to wait 90 days.

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want the ShutterStock Forum

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

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