MicrostockGroup Sponsors


Author Topic: Percentage of earnings in the various agencies  (Read 7704 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

« on: April 15, 2014, 11:07 »
0
Hi,
It would be interesting to see the percentage of the earnings of some of you in the various agencies!?

Thank you.


« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 11:08 »
0
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:56 by tickstock »

Ron

« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2014, 11:09 »
0
What are your percentages ?

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2014, 11:10 »
+1
I'll show you mine if you show me yours...

Anyway, to break the ice, I already posted mine in a different thread recently: http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/one-year-on-a-stock-photography-experiment/msg374872/?topicseen#new

Steve

« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2014, 11:17 »
0
I'll play along:

CLO- 30%
MSV- 16%
SS- 15%
TV- 11%
DT- 10%
CanStockPhoto- 6%
GL- 4%

And everything else makes up the rest.

lisafx

« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 11:44 »
0
+1 for Tickstock. The poll is the best place to get that info. Results are shown to the right of the forum threads ->

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2014, 12:08 »
+2
+1 for Tickstock. The poll is the best place to get that info. Results are shown to the right of the forum threads ->

The right column does not give a result in percentage, it gives a result in "something" not understandable by the common of mortals

« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 12:13 »
+1
I am exclusive to iStockphoto and think about the termination of the contract.

« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 12:14 »
+1
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:56 by tickstock »

« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2014, 12:20 »
+2
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:57 by tickstock »

« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2014, 12:49 »
+1
5...4...3...2...1...

« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 13:06 »
0
I am exclusive to iStockphoto and think about the termination of the contract.
I'm not sure how knowing the average % per site will help you with your decision.  If you look at the poll the average nonexclusive contributor here (who contributes to 20 sites) makes about $1080 while the average exclusive here makes $1540.  Also, according to the poll exclusives make almost 9 times more at iStock than they do as nonexclusives.
Yes, I know it's difficult to make the right decision, but the situation in Istockphoto from month to month is worse and the termination of exclusivity all closer.

« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2014, 13:11 »
+4
Also, according to the poll exclusives make almost 9 times more at iStock than they do as nonexclusives.

No. According to the poll exclusivity has a 9 times higher number as non-exclusivity when it comes to iStock earnings. It's not a direct comparison of the same portfolio. It's just two different sets of people reporting those numbers.

« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2014, 13:15 »
-1
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:56 by tickstock »

« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2014, 13:25 »
0
SS - 76%
123 - 6%
FT - 5%
DT 4%

« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2014, 13:32 »
+2
That's true.  I should have said according to the poll the average exclusive member on this site who fills out the poll does about 9 times better than the average nonexclusive contributor who fills out the poll.  But if you look at the royalty rate and credits per dl difference you would expect that kind of drop.  Also if you look at what a lot of exclusives have said when they left you get a similar picture.

No, that's not what I've read before I made my own decision. Nor is it what I experienced. It's more like a drop by about 75-80% (so 4:1 or 5:1 if you want to express is that way), and part of that is being compensated by the Partner Program which actually becomes an interesting addition to the base royalties once you got used to the lower pays everywhere.

I am currently making about 50% from iStock including the partner program from what I did in 2012 as an exclusive - but only 25% of what I've made in my better years. Everyone is different, though.

« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2014, 13:42 »
+2
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:57 by tickstock »


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 14:51 »
+2
+1 for Tickstock. The poll is the best place to get that info. Results are shown to the right of the forum threads ->

The right column does not give a result in percentage, it gives a result in "something" not understandable by the common of mortals
It does give a percentage.  If you submit only to Shutterstock the percentage would be 84.2 out of a total 84.2 or 100%.  If you contribute to SS and IS the average percentage for SS would be 84.2 out of (84.2 +35.3) or about 70.5%.  The average contributor here who answered the poll for those two sites makes 70.5% from SS and 29.5% from IS.

I am a photographer, not a mathematician or a specialist in statistics :)

For me a % is a part of a whole (100%).
The whole (100%) is the sum of all the considered elements.

Beyond this I am not able to understand
SS represent 52.97% of my total earnings on the sites where I submit. Alamy 14.84%, iStock 10.69, etc. The sum of the various % that I get for each site is 100%.
These are clear and understandable figure for me.

« Last Edit: April 15, 2014, 14:59 by Beppe Grillo »

lisafx

« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 16:38 »
0
Just to play devil's advocate, if I was exclusive and my income was 9 times my current indie Istock income, that would be a 71% increase over what I actually made as an indie for March. 

Not sure if that number can be taken as accurate, but either way, I feel kind of queasy thinking about it. 

« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 16:51 »
0
.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 21:57 by tickstock »

lisafx

« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2014, 17:03 »
0
Just to play devil's advocate, if I was exclusive and my income was 9 times my current indie Istock income, that would be a 71% increase over what I actually made as an indie for March. 

Not sure if that number can be taken as accurate, but either way, I feel kind of queasy thinking about it.
I think it's possible.  Right now it's probably a bigger loss for exclusives leaving than a gain for nonexclusives becoming exclusive.   You wouldn't get too many files into S+ or Vetta now but you would lose all those if you quit exclusivity.  On the other hand if you like the partner program you could keep your whole portfolio in there (or take it out if you don't like it).

I'm sure you're right.  I wouldn't dream of becoming exclusive now for the myriad reasons I've posted over the last couple of years, but it is shocking to contemplate the amount of money I may have lost in the past 5 years or so by not going exclusive when it seemed like a more appealing idea. 

I have never been comfortable with the all eggs in one basket concept and I have far too weak a stomach for the amount of constant change and flux at Istock, but if these figures are remotely accurate I wonder how much it's cost me. 

I guess if I was still satisfied with my income and hadn't seen drops over the last three years I wouldn't be giving this any thought at all.  And since I can't change the past and have no intention of becoming exclusive now (unless there was a sweetheart deal, a la Yuri or Andres - and they aren't handing those out to most of us) there's no point in spending much time ruminating about it....

« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2014, 17:14 »
0
Hi,
It would be interesting to see the percentage of the earnings of some of you in the various agencies!?

Thank you.
Can we see a portfolio??? In some cases going indie is not the right decision...

« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2014, 17:18 »
0
Just to play devil's advocate, if I was exclusive and my income was 9 times my current indie Istock income, that would be a 71% increase over what I actually made as an indie for March. 

Not sure if that number can be taken as accurate, but either way, I feel kind of queasy thinking about it.
I think it's possible.  Right now it's probably a bigger loss for exclusives leaving than a gain for nonexclusives becoming exclusive.   You wouldn't get too many files into S+ or Vetta now but you would lose all those if you quit exclusivity.  On the other hand if you like the partner program you could keep your whole portfolio in there (or take it out if you don't like it).

I'm sure you're right.  I wouldn't dream of becoming exclusive now for the myriad reasons I've posted over the last couple of years, but it is shocking to contemplate the amount of money I may have lost in the past 5 years or so by not going exclusive when it seemed like a more appealing idea. 

I have never been comfortable with the all eggs in one basket concept and I have far too weak a stomach for the amount of constant change and flux at Istock, but if these figures are remotely accurate I wonder how much it's cost me. 

I guess if I was still satisfied with my income and hadn't seen drops over the last three years I wouldn't be giving this any thought at all.  And since I can't change the past and have no intention of becoming exclusive now (unless there was a sweetheart deal, a la Yuri or Andres - and they aren't handing those out to most of us) there's no point in spending much time ruminating about it....

you can always contact them to see what they have to offer you

« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2014, 17:47 »
+3
but it is shocking to contemplate the amount of money I may have lost in the past 5 years or so

By that logic, you've lost MILLIONS by not winning the lottery!  ;)

« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2014, 18:09 »
0
Just to play devil's advocate, if I was exclusive and my income was 9 times my current indie Istock income, that would be a 71% increase over what I actually made as an indie for March. 

Not sure if that number can be taken as accurate, but either way, I feel kind of queasy thinking about it.

It seems unlikely that you'd get an increase that large. It would be a huge gamble to bet on too.


 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
20 Replies
8444 Views
Last post June 27, 2008, 00:28
by ann
14 Replies
7066 Views
Last post September 03, 2008, 05:33
by DanP68
19 Replies
5359 Views
Last post June 03, 2009, 08:31
by jayreilly
6 Replies
2693 Views
Last post June 11, 2014, 05:42
by ShadySue
29 Replies
8607 Views
Last post May 04, 2015, 20:37
by a and n

Sponsors

Mega Bundle of 5,900+ Professional Lightroom Presets

Microstock Poll Results

Sponsors

3100 Posing Cards Bundle