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tab62

« on: September 06, 2012, 18:27 »
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I just got BBQ on my last batch- below 20% acceptance rate. Of course there were a lot of pics since they review on a monthly basis. Does anyone have an idea on what they like? Oh, well back to the drawing board (does anyone use a drawing board anymore or all done on an iPad?)


rubyroo

« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 02:28 »
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Does anyone have an idea on what they like?

I'm not sure what your subject matter is, but if I were you I'd do a search on that subject and see what they have accepted previously.  Keep looking until you get a good feel for the choices they make when curating their collection.

Anyone searching Veer on 'business', for example, will see a variety of images that are not typical of the other sites. 

« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 17:08 »
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Why bother unless you have thousands of very good sellers and they just take them because you're you? 

« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 18:56 »
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I haven't submitted more to Veer since the Alamy debacle, but I found them to be wildly erratic in reviewing (as well as very slow). Some patches they'd take everything I submitted and other times they'd reject 30% or 40%. As all of the submissions were images already accepted elsewhere, this wasn't a situation where I was uncertain about the image quality.

They do have pretty strict property release rules, so don't submit house images unless you have releases. A number of location shots - of specific cities or beaches - they'd reject as "too editorial for Veer customers". When they have no/very few images from those places, it seems they're really surprising rejections. Beyond that, I can't see anything consistent enough to form an opinion of "what they like"

ShadySue

« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 20:25 »
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Anyone searching Veer on 'business', for example, will see a variety of images that are not typical of the other sites.
Many of which have only the vagueist connection (if that!) with business.
Glad I'm not negotiating that headache!

« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 22:34 »
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My last batch there had a similar fate - long time in the queue, then 80% rejected, all for the same reason, that they didn't meet their "esthetic".  Very annoying.  Not sure if this is a change in policy or a lazy, rogue reviewer.  After that batch I stopped uploading there.  Previous batches were inconsistent but overall with a decent acceptance rate, and they often accept (and sell) images that were rejected by SS, iS and the others.  I was content to leave them off the upload list, but have had some recent strong sales - if there aren't any refunds in the next week or two I will start uploading again and take my chances with the reviewers.

rubyroo

« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 02:30 »
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Ah.  I didn't realise so many were having such difficulties with Veer.  I've never had any problems with them, but I never had to change anything to fit their aesthetic.  Perhaps I'm just lucky that they happen to like my stuff.  I can't explain why that is.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 02:34 by rubyroo »

« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2012, 03:39 »
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I stopped checking rejected images long time ago. It's good for my mental health. :-)
The only site where I check rejections is Shutterstock because their rejections have influence on my earnings. Rejections from Veer or Crestock don't change significantly anything except size of my portfolio.

« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2012, 04:35 »
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I stopped checking rejected images long time ago. It's good for my mental health. :-)
The only site where I check rejections is Shutterstock because their rejections have influence on my earnings. Rejections from Veer or Crestock don't change significantly anything except size of my portfolio.

+1 ... and lately SS has many strange rejections (grr..) ...

Carl

  • Carl Stewart, CS Productions
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2012, 05:18 »
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I had the same experience - erratic reviews, high rejections, long review times, etc.  And since they're a low earner, I decided that my time would be better spend elsewhere.  Your mileage may vary...  8)

Wim

« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 06:06 »
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I stopped checking rejected images long time ago. It's good for my mental health. :-)
The only site where I check rejections is Shutterstock because their rejections have influence on my earnings. Rejections from Veer or Crestock don't change significantly anything except size of my portfolio.

+1 and as for Crestock? I have quit that agency a long time ago, not only because of lack of sales but their respect towards contributors, especially their reviewing staff.

Don't agencies get it by now that most are fed up with this inconsistent/absurd reviewing and will take measures if need be? we're not all hobbyists here  ::)

Have a good weekend all.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2012, 03:21 by Wim »

« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 19:13 »
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They rejected about 40% of my last month or 2s uploads (they really are slow) all for

"Composition, styling, and/or lighting do not quite reflect the aesthetic that appeals to Veer customers. Please review our Contributor Guidelines to get a better sense of what we're looking for. "

Which I can understand for some of them, but others it just appears that was the first button the reviewer pressed. I agree that submit and forget is a good habit for your blood pressure with the smaller agencies. Acceptance/rejection just seems like a random thing to me very often. Still it sucks when everything gets rejected, since there is no way it can sell if it isn't there.

tab62

« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 16:16 »
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and have you seen the pdf for contributor guidelines? It is about 5 years old! On the same batch that I got about 20% A.R.  (about 90 pics) from Veer I am over 90% with Dreamstime (83 accepted 8 rejected), 80% plus with Shutter and 70% with Fotolia. Heck I am over 70% with GL on the same submitted batch whom I consider very difficult to get approved pics.  In summary, Veer must be looking for something very unique - maybe like the pics that iStock wants or CREStock...

« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 03:46 »
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There is no rhyme or reason for it - it is just poor decision making.  When I look back through my Veer rejection list it is full of images that are best-sellers elsewhere.  Veer could have had those images, could have been making money from them, but have chosen not to.

« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 05:00 »
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I've around 90% acceptance rate at Veer. No complaints.
They're my third best earner after SS and FT.

tab62

« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2012, 12:54 »
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Veer was my top earner a year ago- ever since they company moved to the Seattle office my sales and AR have dropped. One time I had 86 out of 87 pics approved in a single batch file. I live in Seattle so maybe I will stop by the office and bring the reviewers some starbucks coffee and danish lol  ???






« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2012, 19:32 »
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So glad I dumped them.


« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2012, 06:13 »
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Veer: high stupid rejection rate and very low sales now, since subscription plan, almost dead for me.

Dan

« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 07:26 »
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     Haven't  heard  a  thing  on  the  batch  i  uploade  on  7/29.  Quess  i'll  have  to  check  the  site.  But  from  all  that"s  been  said  if  they're  rejected  i  through  with  them.


 

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