Author Topic: What site does Rinder review at?? (Read 16103 times)

Opla · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2007, 03:59 »

This explains a lot.

grp_photo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:07 »

I reread some of Rinders posts on different Forums and must say most of them are really wellbalanced and wise - so my apologies!
I must have read only the wrong ones over the several thousand which still imho exist and have little bigmouth in it

- but in general he is a wise and helpful person - i have to agree - and say sorry for my earlier post!

eendicott · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2007, 08:51 »

Laurin does have some great advice to give but like any other conversation, forum, discussion, etc. you have to listen and filter through the B.S.

As far as I know (based on running into him at multiple sites) Laurin started microstock in the summer of 2005. He's been through a lot of iterations of change over the past couple of years and more and more, I'm seeing some contradictions in what has been said. As with all of us, we change over time, but Laurin is one who tends to be good at self-promotion - not because he's trying to brag, but because he's as opinionated as anyone else and because he isn't afraid to say it.

It seems that everytime someone challenges the decision for Laurin to enter microstock, he tends to hide behind the magazine article project. The fact is, he learned this business just like anyone else and he's whined and complained about it just like everyone else.

I seem to remember a posting on the Gimmestock forum about them being "useless" and someone else making fun of Laurin's portfolio of flowers. That forum is no longer there, but he was learning just like the rest of us. The same posting appears (appeared) at other slow selling sites.

I remember Laurin pointedly remarking in multiple forums where people had found one of their images in use how they felt about making 25 (or 20) cents on that magazine ad (maybe it was research) but he sure raised all heck a week or so ago on a ton of forums when he found someone selling his image on Cafe Press - again, learning like the rest of us to read the TOS of the agencies you submit to.

I don't want to get into flaming other people, and believe me, Laurin is more helpful than most, but interpret advice like you would from anyone else. There's more to just taking pictures in Microstock and like any other guy, he's going to give his opinion and share it based on his experience.

...and what's wrong with being an "old fart"?

smitea · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:21 »

when i was in college for photography a few years back one of the most valuable lession i learned was how to take a CRUTIQUE .....i thought they were the meanest rudest instructors there is

laurin reminds me of one man the meanest of them all

...i learned and im sorry im still not in school to learn more!
when i think back.... im glad that man was so hard on me ...you have to be in this business it opens your eyes in my opinion

sherrie

leaf · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2007, 11:32 »

yeah i can agree with that. Having gone to art school as well, I got used to people saying i don't like this and that and that about my photos. You learn how to take it, and learn from it where you can.

Void · « **Reply #30 on:** February 20, 2007, 14:33 »

back to the orginal question....
does it really matter where or if he reviews for one of the sites?

for all we know Leaf could be a reviewer....
of maybe even eendicott......

what matters is selling the pictures and the more you shoot the more you learn and the more you upload to stock site the closer you get to figuring out what stock really is.....or at least what the sites will take.

I like to think of it this way:
Not all stock is art and not all art is stock ( With a fine art training i bend more towards fine art photography)

Above all Stock photography IS nameless. Most buyer dont care who took the shot, they dont care if it was Rinder, Leaf, me, or you, they just need the right shot for their current project.
Microstock and I dare say, All stock, is in the end, nothing more than clip art....

doesnt mean its not good photography, just nameless photography

CJPhoto · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2007, 17:18 »

Quote from: Void on February 20, 2007, 14:33

back to the orginal question....
does it really matter where or if he reviews for one of the sites?

I must admit this thread got a bit out of control. I thought it would be answered in one post and would then get buried.

ianhlnd · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2007, 18:49 »

CJPhoto: Ya gotta be jokin!

Everybody wants to be like the best, or better than the best. The best photographer, the best designer, the best sailor ( I already got that one) , the best.....well, you name it. And how do we do it? by learning from the best and bringing our own "thing" to the party.

So you thought this was going to be a short thread about one of the most talked about and copied artists in our group.......HAH!

Bateleur · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2007, 01:49 »

Quote from: ianhlnd on February 20, 2007, 18:49

CJPhoto: Ya gotta be jokin!

... the best sailor ( I already got that one) ...

Sorry. You ain't. I got THAT one

rinderart · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2007, 01:56 »

I started in this with Flowers and landscapes. That was the Majority then. I saw a thrend of something else. I jumped on it. Did I complain about what we got Paid?? OH YA, BIG TIME AND I WILL CONTINUE. For Me? well a little , For you YES. Did I bitch at 3 rejections out of 1200? Big Time!! And So Should you If you think your Right. I take the time to know every owner of every site im on. I wanna know all the *crap. Do I post mean things? Oh you bet, Sometimes I'll post something just for a reaction to get them to think. Works every time. Im a old Hippie guys, I dont trust the establishment and I dont back down. I'll tell ya what I think, always. Thats all I got. Oh, And do I self promote? Well, DUH! It's my Business.