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Author Topic: Which Agencies offer 50-50 commission??  (Read 8702 times)

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« on: April 28, 2013, 09:26 »
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Istock exclusive programme is overhyped and over rated. I was disillusioned into getting 45% commission and in the end i was getting 25% which is no different from 15%. I was only paid 18 buck for artwork that is price $75 which is frustrating.
Istock is too greedy for having lion share.

Anyway, i decided to quit Istock at the end of this month.

Can any veteran here kindly provide me a list of agencies that offer 50-50% commission in vector illustraton?
Would kindly appreciated if anyone here help.


« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 10:44 »
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www.graphicriver.net take vector and illustrations
Start off commission is 50% and goes up by 1% every $3000 up to 70%

« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 11:17 »
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that 50% rate is exclusive only FYI at graphic river

« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 11:20 »
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Graphicleftovers.

Stocksy.

« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 11:48 »
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that 50% rate is exclusive only FYI at graphic river

They do support image exclusivity.  What you need to do is establish two accounts: one for exclusive work and one for nonexclusive.  Anything sold from the exclusive account earns the higher rate.

« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 12:35 »
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pond5
featurepics
stockfresh
mostphotos
yaymicro
zoonar
stockami
3dstudio

« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 12:43 »
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Clipartof
Drawshop
Toon Vectors
Self-Hosted

mattdixon

« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 16:45 »
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Alamy

ShadySue

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 16:53 »
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Alamy
So long as it's not a distributor sale (which you can opt out of in April, or I think when you join), when it's 30%.

« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 16:55 »
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I think the 50/50 decision is short sighted.  Several sites offer 50/50 or better but they don't generate much in sales. So 50% of not a lot = not a lot.  I would focus on the big four first, then upload to the smaller volume sites.  I am speaking photos.  Illustrations and video mileage may vary.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 17:00 »
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The OP did mention vector illustrations.

« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 10:48 »
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I think the 50/50 decision is short sighted.  Several sites offer 50/50 or better but they don't generate much in sales. So 50% of not a lot = not a lot.  I would focus on the big four first, then upload to the smaller volume sites.  I am speaking photos.  Illustrations and video mileage may vary.

Not to sound arrogant and rude, but I think most vector artist are not selling their artworks, but actually selling their dignity at 0.25 cents at the big 4 which seemed degrading to me. All those years of learning and honing of skills for the sake of 25 cents is a waste of time, and a question of self-worth.

I like the earnings at SS, but i quit as well at the end of this month.
And it seem to me that most buyers at SS and other cheap subscription microstock sites like to circulate the artworks they bought to FRee Vector sites. I actually saw some of my artworks and others in free site, and there is nothing the microstock sites would do for u if u lodge a complain.

I quit SS becos of lousy 25 cents and free giveaway at free vector sites.


« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 10:56 »
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Clipartof
Drawshop
Toon Vectors
Self-Hosted

I like Clipartof, but the problem is How do I join them? I cant find any contributor info on their website.
Toonvectors belongs to Cthoman's brother, and i definitely contribute. I do actually hope Toonvectors has better features, like Group/categories section like Animals, kids, education.

I am not expecting big income, but just passive earnings to save for a rainy day.


« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 13:37 »
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Toonvectors belongs to Cthoman's brother, and i definitely contribute.

Were you telling me or asking me? Either way, yes. My brother does run it.  ;D

As far as Clipartof, the last I heard they weren't accepting new contributors, but I suppose it never hurts to send an email to confirm.

« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 13:43 »
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Not to sound arrogant and rude, but I think most vector artist are not selling their artworks, but actually selling their dignity at 0.25 cents at the big 4 which seemed degrading to me. All those years of learning and honing of skills for the sake of 25 cents is a waste of time, and a question of self-worth.


I think that 25c is low but how can they be selling their dignity when the same vector can sell 1000s of times.  It is only a matter of 25c if you only get one download.

« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 21:10 »
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I do actually hope Toonvectors has better features, like Group/categories section like Animals, kids, education.

Categories are still a work-in-progress, but they are coming along.  I wasn't really happy with any of the existing category or CV hierarchies I looked at, since they are all clearly designed with photography and "reality" in mind - i.e. not dealing satisfactorily with the ambiguities, anthropomorphism, imaginary and fantastical concepts, artwork styles, design elements and layouts that are unique to illustration.

So instead, they are being built from scratch which is a time-consuming process, but I think ultimately a worthwhile effort.  I've been meaning to talk about what's going on with categories and the plans for them, so I'll try to put together a more thorough description of my category approach as a post in the Toon Vectors thread on this forum in the near future.

« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 06:03 »
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pond5
featurepics
stockfresh
mostphotos
yaymicro
zoonar
stockami
3dstudio
And unfortunately, none of these can really sell. Unless if you are sending videos to pond5. Or if you simply have 10k high-end images...


« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2013, 06:48 »
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pond5
featurepics
stockfresh
mostphotos
yaymicro
zoonar
stockami
3dstudio
And unfortunately, none of these can really sell. Unless if you are sending videos to pond5. Or if you simply have 10k high-end images...

And our collective reaction to that is that we continue to put most our efforts on those sites that sell better. But those are taking their 70% - 85% cut of the sales price, giving them more money to be used for marketing and thus a competitive advantage against the "fair" sites. And in turn they will have more customers, more sales, more contributors supporting them.

A vicious circle that is not going to end on itself.

It needs some kind of step change to break that circle, only that I have no idea what that will be.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2013, 07:06 »
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And our collective reaction to that is that we continue to put most our efforts on those sites that sell better. But those are taking their 70% - 85% cut of the sales price, giving them more money to be used for marketing and thus a competitive advantage against the "fair" sites. And in turn they will have more customers, more sales, more contributors supporting them.

A vicious circle that is not going to end on itself.

It needs some kind of step change to break that circle, only that I have no idea what that will be.

Not to be defeatist, but the apparent rush of all the photo factories to send their back-catalogues to iS, even those who have their own sites, shows that the task is at best, a very steeply uphill struggle.

« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 07:33 »
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And our collective reaction to that is that we continue to put most our efforts on those sites that sell better. But those are taking their 70% - 85% cut of the sales price, giving them more money to be used for marketing and thus a competitive advantage against the "fair" sites. And in turn they will have more customers, more sales, more contributors supporting them.

A vicious circle that is not going to end on itself.

It needs some kind of step change to break that circle, only that I have no idea what that will be.

Not to be defeatist, but the apparent rush of all the photo factories to send their back-catalogues to iS, even those who have their own sites, shows that the task is at best, a very steeply uphill struggle.

This is why I am focusing strongly on my underwater work this year and next year so as to differentiate my uploads from others (including the factories).  I believe that the ONLY way we solo, low volume producers (for me maybe 60 a month, which I'd consider low) can compete and make money is to have unique imagery, which has been discussed here many times.  There are some fantastic underwater images on the MS sites but, still, not an over abundant category.  Sadly, my studio equipment has sat idle since February as I am in a camera transition for my underwater system.  I'll still shoot studio images, but my focus (no pun intended) is underwater.  During this downtime in the studio, I am planning studio shoots so I can fill the idea pipeline and be ready to produce creative stuff topside.

« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 11:11 »
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@ dirkr

Buyers doesn't care where the most artist will send their work, so random agencies won't sell more just if they reach 20M photos. It's not nearly enough just to stop send to one place and start send to other.

This is about marketing, and marketing costs (unless there is a lot of buzz on the internet). If those agencies can't or won't put their effort in marketing, somebody has to...

« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2013, 11:24 »
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2013, 11:31 »
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@ dirkr

Buyers doesn't care where the most artist will send their work, so random agencies won't sell more just if they reach 20M photos. It's not nearly enough just to stop send to one place and start send to other.

This is about marketing, and marketing costs (unless there is a lot of buzz on the internet). If those agencies can't or won't put their effort in marketing, somebody has to...

Actually... As someone that does this, I can say it does have results. Not in every case, but I've had success with limiting my new files to a few agencies. I'm over 2 years in on this little experiment, and it is going well.

The problem with this approach though is I'm still competing with everyone else that is still uploading everywhere else. Not that I expect everyone to jump ship and do what I'm doing. But, I know that their efforts do work against mine for moving traffic to the better paying agencies.

« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2013, 11:48 »
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I've started doing this as well. I have realized that the lifetime of my images is likely to be much longer if I am careful about which images get placed on the sites that sell subs. I think I can sell the same images for 10-15 years on my own site and a few high rpd sites whereas by selling on the sub sites the lifespan of the images will be much much shorter. I am not really deleting images that are already there. I consider those images to be dying already based on numbers of downloads on SS, Thinkstock, etc. Also, I believe because of the subs my images keep appearing on free sites and I can't even keep up with tracking that.

I am in this for the long term and the large subscription sales sites don't really match with my model.

« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2013, 11:58 »
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@ cthoman

I can't imagine (despite being imagein lol) that most of us "mortals" can replicate our earnings from SS on any of these sites. Not even on all of them together.
Ok, those sites would probably sell more with 20M photos, but still not nearly enough to compensate earnings from the top4, at least not for the most of us. Maybe in 5+ years, but not everybody is ready for that process, which is btw very uncertain...

For making some drastic changes we would need some drastic actions. So before switching agencies, the most influential artists would have to start a marketing process, together with those agencies. What was the difference between Deposit and other newbies? - thats right, the marketing...


 

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