Author Topic: Why Microstock Expo 2013 videos so expensive ? (Read 13933 times)

niserin · « **on:** March 24, 2014, 05:20 »

199 Euro seems to be a bit exaggerated. I understand there is a lot of a valuable material, but come on, wouldn't 50 Euro be enough ?

Ron · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2014, 05:31 »

Someone from the Expo said in a thread that the Expo is for pro stockers who can afford it. They said something like if you cant afford it, its probably not for you. Which seems a bit denigrating to me.

But there you go.

cobalt · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2014, 05:32 »

It´s a lot cheaper than going to Berlin...the potential audience is also quite small, I think. If millions of people would buy the videos they could probably make it cheaper.

It is up to you, but the workshops and discussions were great, sounds like a fair price.

niserin · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2014, 05:41 »

Ron, I'll consider it a compliment for me

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Has any of you bought the full access? Do Shutterstock and other big players say something new, revealing and helpful ?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2014, 05:46 »

Quote from: niserin on March 24, 2014, 05:20

199 Euro seems to be a bit exaggerated. I understand there is a lot of a valuable material, but come on, wouldn't 50 Euro be enough ?

looking at your portfolio and sales at a few agencies it doesn't look much actually, you must be doing 3 to 5k $

anyway I have no idea about your expenses so I should mind my own business

how much would you charge to record all microstock expo conference? 50 eur?

niserin · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:07 »

It's all about volume. I thought if it was cheaper, more photographers/illustrators would afford it, which would possibly result in higher profit for the hosts of Expo.
That being said, I CAN afford it, however I don't always come across 200 Euro for some videos (with all due respect to its value), hence my consternation.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:29 »

don't forget you are getting 1372 minutes of the EXPO or something like 23 hours

200 EUR / 23 hours = 8.69 EUR / hour

I hope they paid a little more to the guy shooting it

Ron · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:33 »

Cant they just make an edit of the 23 hours, 90 minutes, and sell it for 50 euros. Im sure there is not 23 hours of must see footage. 23 hours, jaysus, you can do a PRINCE2 course and become certified project manager.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:36 »

Quote from: Ron on March 24, 2014, 06:33

Cant they just make an edit of the 23 hours, 90 minutes, and sell it for 50 euros. Im sure there is not 23 hours of must see footage. 23 hours, jaysus, you can do a PRINCE2 course and become certified project manager.

that doesn't mean they haven't shot 23 hours and still need to go over them to pick 90 min, we need to think of the persons that made these videos, ok we are used to micro prices but its not reasonable most of the times as we know

jjneff · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:40 »

The real question is, is it worth the price? I don't mind spending the money if the content is good enough. Does anyone have a link?

Ron · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:41 »

What do you mean they havent shot 23 hours?

Are you suggesting that the 23 hours is already edited down?

TV series are 12 or 24 episodes, mostly an hour long. Thats a full season of Game of Thrones or what ever. This expo was 16th & 17th Nov 2013. Two days, 48 hours, and they have 23 hours of footage. LOL.

Ron · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:41 »

Quote from: jjneff on March 24, 2014, 06:40

The real question is, is it worth the price? I don't mind spending the money if the content is good enough. Does anyone have a link?

Well, at 23 hours its probably all of the expo so Id say its worth your money

luissantos84 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:42 »

Quote from: jjneff on March 24, 2014, 06:40

The real question is, is it worth the price? I don't mind spending the money if the content is good enough

how much would you charge to record footage for a weekend like at this conference?

Ron · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:44 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 24, 2014, 06:42

Quote from: jjneff on March 24, 2014, 06:40
The real question is, is it worth the price? I don't mind spending the money if the content is good enough

how much would you charge to record footage for a weekend like at this conference?

That depends on what the customer wants and what the demand is? No.

Nobody is saying the videographer shouldnt be paid. Its a legit question to ask if its worth 200 euros. 275$.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:45 »

Quote from: Ron on March 24, 2014, 06:41

What do you mean they havent shot 23 hours?

Are you suggesting that the 23 hours is already edited down?

TV series are 12 or 24 episodes, mostly an hour long. Thats a full season of Game of Thrones or what ever. This expo was 16th & 17th Nov 2013. Two days, 48 hours, and they have 23 hours of footage. LOL.

there were different rooms and different workshops etc at the same time, anyway I am done discussing this, you can't seem to understand that photographers/illustrators paid over 1k EUR to attend this conference but now you want they to charge we that spend zero 50 EUR to see the all show!

Ron · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:47 »

Thats not what I am saying at all!

Calm down Louis, I am not attacking you or anybody else. Just asking questions.

If there is 23 hours of invaluable information, 200 euros is not much.

If its 22 hours of people chatting to each other, its not worth 10 euros.

niserin · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:50 »

Ron is right, they should edit their videos, who is going to watch those 23 hours ? Not to mention most of it seems to be recorded from two places in a conference hall - a camera on a tripod recording non stop (moments of boring technical breaks like speakers changing are not cut-out as it may be seen on the free 5 minutes video they provide)
If they made an interesting two hours video out of it, it would be awesome.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:53 »

lets just focus on the masterclass then, you have 3 top guys not new corners

Yuri - 2 hours
Simon - 3.5 hours
Thomas - 2.15 hours

almost 8 hours for 200 EUR of 3 workshops from guys that know what they are doing, is that expensive?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2014, 06:56 »

Quote from: niserin on March 24, 2014, 06:50

If they made an interesting two hours video out of it, it would be awesome.

I agree for 200 EUR

you are in or out, easy!

Ron · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:08 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 24, 2014, 06:53

lets just focus on the masterclass then, you have 3 top guys not new corners

Yuri - 2 hours
Simon - 3.5 hours
Thomas - 2.15 hours

almost 8 hours for 200 EUR of 3 workshops from guys that know what they are doing, is that expensive?

Great stuff 8 hours of workshops, very valuable, and then 15 hours of crap.

Whats your investment in this video anyway? Did you buy shares? You almost sound like Mike

Just kidding Louis

luissantos84 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:15 »

no Ron I haven't got anything by defending my own opinion and I don't allow you to say something like that, I am honest and genuine, I say what I believe not other other will think its nice

pretty much I value others work, I know how much it sucks to work for a client and get cents for it, my plan isn't to devalue what EXPO guys did

make sure you don't say I am like Mike ever again

Ron · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:18 »

So I need to accept 15 hours of crap and pay 200 euros for it, but I am not allowed to question the footage? I have every right to say about that video what I want.

Apparently the work was shot from a tripod and no one even looking at what was recorded. I am willing to do that for 200 euros over the span of two days.

I'll call anybody Mike when I want to.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:19 »

sure Mike

Ron · « **Reply #23 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:21 »

Hahahaha, cheers.

Hearted you for that one.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2014, 07:26 »

Quote from: niserin on March 24, 2014, 05:20

199 Euro seems to be a bit exaggerated. I understand there is a lot of a valuable material, but come on, wouldn't 50 Euro be enough ?

this is hilarious, now that I read it again

199 Eur is a bit exaggerated = valuable material = 50 Eur is enough

next time you have a client make sure you make him a 75% discount

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