Yay contributor you need to opt out now or terminate your account! Here is why:

You can now download almost the entire Yaymicro database (original high resolution images and vectors) for just 99$ - at least if your internet connection is fast enough to pull down 4 million images in one month.

That is correct! If you have not opted out, buyers can now download your entire full resolution portfolio for only 99$, and you will only see a tiny undisclosed fraction of that money. It is almost impossible to grasp that Yaymicro have sunk this deep, but I have read it 4 times so I am starting to believe it now.

Read it here: http://yayimages.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14

And then go deactivate your account or at least opt out!

Yaymicro have totally misjudged their position in the market on this one. They do not have any leverage, as they do not produce nearly enough sales to make hard for anybody to pull out.

The only way Yaymicro can hope for this to work is by keeping the contributors uninformed. With 4 million images, most contributors are still opted in. Please spread the word in your contributor network. This needs to be stopped!

Yay contributors, what do you plan to do about this?

Questions to Yaymicro:

This is such a radical change in the terms and conditions that contributors signed on for and it is clearly highly unethical that you have set the default option to "opt in" for this new product. Will do the only fair thing and set the default to "opt out"?

When were we informed about this?
 
Also, Please explain how this is not screwing over contributors in the worst possible way? And please no nonsense about new markets.

 

Not good!

Where can you opt out or terminate your account I cant find it and just sent them an email requesting account termination.

Quote from: shotupdave on December 14, 2013, 00:03

do you know what the ope out url is?

I think this is it:

YAY Streaming
YAY Images Subscriptions
Country: International
Commission to photographer: 50 %
Price Level: Microstock
Status: Starting Q4 2013

You can opt out in API details. BTW do you have sales on Yay?  My month avarage is 0,15 euros from 3800 files. I thought reaching payout and closing my account, but I don't know how long can it take to earn 30 euros there hahaha

That looks like it might only be for the streaming subscriptions, not the high resolution ones talked about in this thread.

If they will give free all my photos to their customers but continue to pay may the same as before for each sold photo where is the problem?

Well� I sold for $ 2.5 in one year with them

Hi,

Just to clarify - there is no DAILY download limit, but there is a monthly. http://yayimages.com/support/2-uncategorised/28-how-many-images-do-i-get-in-a-month
It's also not allowed to use our subscriptions to build an internal image bank for a company or a service.

For those wanting to opt-out you can do so at yaymicro.com, API details.

Cheers,

Linda

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It's also not allowed to use our subscriptions to build an internal image bank for a company or a service.
Cheers,
Linda

Since that is the obvious thing to do with this sort of deal, and not every buyer reads the small print, how can you police that policy and what will you do with offenders?

I have 50 images on Yay.  Made $10 in a year.   Seem to me that they have so many partner deals that all its doing is undercutting images we have on other sites.  I just opted out of all the partner deals.

Just a partner sale off of Alamy - boy did they take their cut! I will be checking right now on their partners...

The sites tend not to make these unenforceable conditions easy for buyers to find.

Thinkstock has a similar condition:
http://www.thinkstockphotos.co.uk/legal/license-information?isource=foot_license_info

• Images may be downloaded and used during the subscription term.
• Images incorporated into projects during the subscription term can be used indefinitely in the same project and in other projects.
• Images downloaded but not used during the subscription term must be deleted when the subscription expires.

IIRC, iS has a similar sort of restriction for their subs, well hidden; but when I click 'learn more' on the subscriptions page, I get a 400 Bad Request error: "Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand." in Firefox and Chrome; in IE nothing happens when I click the link.
SNAFU

Quote from: ComfortEagle2095 on December 14, 2013, 11:12

You simply can't enforce the rule against companies building internal databases from subscription services.  I've talked to at least three designers who work for mid-sized companies.  They have all built internal databases from subscription downloads.  Two of the designers didn't know it was against the rules and the other one didn't care.

No, it's one of those rules they have no chance of enforcing.  They might watch the behavior of the client, and if they download the maximum every day, call them on it, since obviously they can't really use 75 a day, or whatever.

In some legislations, that might constitute entrapment, enticing them to
buy something they couldn't legally use.

Wow.  Just when you think microstock has finally hit bottom...  this.

What happens when one of these companies finally goes under, creditors are at the door, the owners are scrambling to hang on to their houses - and have millions of photos - and somebody makes a cash offer for the whole archive, on a removable hard drive?

 

Opted out but still waiting on an answer from YAY as to how to close account and remove all files??