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Started by fintastique, July 31, 2006, 16:00

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hatman12

What I'd really like to know is how many total sales each agency makes each week.

But I suppose getting that info is impossible.

GeoPappas

StockXpert now has over 478,000 images.

fintastique

Another week has past

SS 1,599,558 [1,576,275] (1,549,608) +23,283
IS  1,520,000 [1,500,000] (1,478,000)  +20,000
FT  2,629,920 [2,565,396] (2,500,308) +64,524

DT   1,037,000   
BigStock 930,000 [915,000] (900,000) +15,000 #

123 600,000+
StockXpert 478,000

CanStockPhoto 384,777 [380,495] (376,738) +4,282
FP   213,250 [207,575] (201,625) +5,675

SPM  112,364 [111,741] (109,532)   +623

# so another 4-5 weeks and someone will win an ipod at BigStock

hatman12

Things seem to be slowing down at IS.

Waiting list at IS has reduced from 30,000 images to 20,000 and approval time has shrunk by a couple of days.

DT input seems to be rising.

SS still going strong and approval is fast and efficient (possibly automated).

Perhaps IS has recruited some additional inspectors.  Or the flow of new images has declined given the complex upload procedure.

Time will tell.

fintastique

I was away in Oxford last Monday so I missed an image account for the usual suspects. Sorry for neglecting this forum of late I've been trying to catch up on my quota of uploads for the month after a slow start.

SS 1,642,594 (1,599,558)  [1,576,275] +43,036
IS  1,562,000 (1,520,000) [1,500,000]   +42,000
FT  2,757,211 (2,629,920) [2,565,396]  +127,291

DT   1,075,000 (1,037,000)  +38,000
BigStock 979,000 (930,000) [915,000]  +49,000 #

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 391,000 (384,777) [380,495]  +6,223
FP   224,750 (213,250) [207,575]  +11,500

SPM  116,017 (112,364) [111,741]   +3,653

SS and iStock seem to be having similar growth
# someone should be winning an iPod here in the next week

fintastique

Its Monday here are the counts looks like two lucky people will win an new iPod sometime this week at DT and BigStock.

SS 1,671,459 [1,642,594] (1,599,558)   +28,865
IS  1,576,000 [1,562,000] (1,520,000)    +14,000
FT  2,820,839 [2,757,211] (2,629,920)   +63,628 *

DT   1,093,949 [1,075,000] (1,037,000)  +18,949
BigStock 997,000 [979,000] (930,000)   +18,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 395,327 [391,000] (384,777)  +10,550
FP   229,550 [224,750] (213,250)   +4,800

SPM  117,583 [116,017] (112,364)    +1,566

* actually figure is probably 1.4 million or less

fintastique

SS 1,700,323 (1,671,459) [1,642,594]   +28,864
IS  1,600,474 (1,576,000) [1,562,000]    +24,474 #
FT  2,882,022 (2,820,839) [2,757,211]   +61,183

DT   1,113,908 (1,093,949) [1,075,000]  +19,959
BigStock 1,016,000 (997,000) [979,000]    +19,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 401,392 (395,327) [391,000]   +6,065
FP   235,450 (229,550) [224,750]    +5,900
SPM  119,114 (117,583) [116,017]     +1,531

# reviewers obviously in a good mood accepting a few more pics than usual.

Well two ipods were won last week but not by me  :'(

leaf

wow, 1.7 million allready.  I thought we were just counting down the race to 1 million.

no ipods for me either :(

fintastique

This weeks count

SS 1,729,719 [1,700,323] (1,671,459)    +29,396
IS  1,623,523 [1,600,474] (1,576,000)   +23,049
FT  2,949,800 [2,882,022] (2,820,839)   +67,778

DT   1,133,044 [1,113,908] (1,093,949)  +19,136
BigStock 1,033,000 [1,016,000] (997,000)   +17,000

123 700,000+
StockXpert 478,000+

CanStockPhoto 406,352 [401,392] (395,327)  +4,960
FP   241,950 [235,450] (229,550)     +6,500
SPM  119,626 [119,114] (117,583)     +512

So the race to 2 million starts SS in 9-10 weeks, iStock in 4 months and DT in about 10 months

Will FTP at CanStockPhoto revive the site? (probably not sales would help) finally got a payout there  ;D only took a year  :'(

fintastique

Another monday another image count

SS 1,756,414 (1,729,719) [1,700,323]     +26,695
IS  1,647,857 (1,623,523) [1,600,474]   +24,334
FT  3,020,674 (2,949,800) [2,882,022]    +70,874

DT   1,151,145 (1,133,044) [1,113,908]  +18,101
BigStock 1,048,000 (1,033,000) [1,016,000]    +15,000

123 700,000+++
StockXpert 478,000+++

CanStockPhoto 411,691 (406,352) [401,392]  +5,339
FP   249,000 (241,950) [235,450]     +7,050
SPM  121,266 (119,626) [119,114]     +1,640

CJPhoto

Fotolia really needs to get serious about their numbers.  IF they were serious, they would have promoted the 3mill mark - or did I miss that?

ptlee


hatman12

I am concerned about FT quoting that number.  It may of course be correct, but I think there are sufficient doubts to suggest that it isn't.

As a recent new contributor to FT I am actually quite pleased with sales progress.  But I feel uncomfortable all the same; its something to do with this massive headline number and the fact that their forums seem to be controlled and edited like something from Nazi Germany (I do not contribute to their forums).

It has a taste of 'dishonesty' about it and I am concerned about that.

Having said these things, I am pleased to be able to see the customers who buy, and with clients like BDO Stoy Hayward, FT are clearly making some progress into the professional market.

But of all the agencies, this is the only one where I feel I cannot trust them; I have been in business a long time, and at my age one gets a feel for honesty or untrustworthiness.

Let's hope that FT will make a leap forward and start to address these things.  They certainly won't attract a large number of volume photographers unless they do.

fintastique

It has been mentioned before and I will mention it FT state the number of "online images".  They don't claim to have 3 million images for sale

If a submitted image is accepted, rejected, made a free image or deleted by user a thumbnail is kept so is "online"

hatman12

Well I believe that in business one should play fair and at least not be misleading; 3 mill images 'online' implies 'for sale' and therefore appears to be deliberately misleading.

I think it would be appropriate for FT to actually state the number of images accepted and available for sale.  That would be the more professional approach.

fintastique

#90
SS 1,782,774 [1,756,414] (1,729,719)    +26,360
IS  1,667,000 [1,647,857] (1,623,523)   +19,143
FT  3,085,068 [3,020,674] (2,949,800)    +64,394

DT   1,170,948 [1,151,145] (1,133,044)  +19,803
BigStock 1,066,000 [1,048,000] (1,033,000)   +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+  Thanks GeoPappas

CanStockPhoto 419,573 [411,691] (406,352)  +7,882
FP   254,250 [249,000] (241,950)     +5,250
SPM  123,015 [121,266] (119,626)    +1,749

Another iPod up for grabs at DT in about 10 days or so

just to warn you if anyone else makes it to $50 at CanStockPhoto I had to wait a week and CanStockPhoto didn't pay the fee so i got hit for the $2.25 charge  :'( . The only site I know that doesn't cover that cost.

Fortunefame

just fyi - 123RF is 800000+ already

GeoPappas

Quote from: fintastique on April 30, 2007, 08:33
StockXpert 478,000+++  anyone know?

StockXpert now has 569,397 images online.

fintastique

SS 1,807,250 (1,782,774) [1,756,414]   +24,476
IS  1,685,000 (1,667,000)[1,647,857]   +18,000
FT  3,157,330 (3,085,068) [3,020,674]   +72,262

DT   1,190,475 (1,170,948) [1,151,145]  +19,527
BigStock 1,084,000 (1,066,000) [1,048,000]   +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+ 

CanStockPhoto 428,234 (419,573) [411,691]  +8,661
FP   261,875 (254,250) [249,000]     +7,625
SPM  124,758 (123,015) [121,266]    +1,743

Some lucky contributor should win a new iPOd at DT by the end of the week. SS should break the 2 million mark in two months any news of a prize there?

sharpshot

I think LO must have overtaken some of the sites on the list.  They reported reviewing 20,000 photos in a week.  Would be interesting to know how many they have now.

StockManiac

LO now has ~ 289,418 images.

fintastique

I will be busy tomorrow so here are the numbers a few hours early

SS 1,834,159 [1,807,250] (1,782,774)  +26,909
IS  1,703,544 [1,685,000] (1,667,000)  +18,544
FT  3,226,856 [3,157,330] (3,085,068)  +69,526

DT   1,215,487 [1,190,475] (1,170,948)   +25,012
BigStock 1,102,000 [1,084,000] (1,066,000) +18,000

123 800,000+
StockXpert 569,397+ 

CanStockPhoto 434,467[428,234] (419,573) +6,233
FP   267,700 [261,875] (254,250) +5,825
SPM  [124,758] (123,015) +1,743

StockManiac

In my opinion, Fotolia needs to be moved into 4th or 5th place.

A search for the keyword "flower" gave the following results:
SS: 143480
IS: 106227
DT: 65115
BigStock: 83571
FT: 9346

A search for the keyword "business" gave the following results:
SS: 144940
IS: 125148
DT: 114166
BigStock: 97204
FT: 9799

A search for the keyword "background" gave the following results:
SS: 435460
IS: 212687
DT: 307208
BigStock: 287812
FT: 9611

As you can see, Fotolia has far less images in their database for these popular searches than any of the other top sites.

fintastique

Ft at position three was a guestimate they may be lower I thought 50% of their stated figure was reasonable.

I think that Fotolio has a 10,000 image ceiling on any search which gives misleading results in your searches plus they have a weighed keywords so for popular searches if a keyword isn't listed in the top 7 it won't be listed, I started obscure and then tried to widen the net.

Edinburgh castle
SS 199
IS 127
FT 108
DT 101
BigStock 104

Golden Gate Bridge
SS 728
IS 735
FT 507
DT 696
BigStock 689

New York City
SS 4777
IS 7856
FT 2186
DT 2593
BigStock 2462

London
SS 5453
IS 6570
FT 4509
DT 3732
BigStock 4213

man
SS 113,630
IS 131,917
FT 9,509
DT 89,341
BigStock 70,122

woman
SS 221,295
IS 214,625
FT 9,293
DT 166,086
BigStock 124,193

just goes to show the gender bias either designers want photos of women or photographers prefer taking pictures of women.

GeoPappas

Quote from: fintastique on May 14, 2007, 00:20
I think that Fotolio has a 10,000 image ceiling on any search which gives misleading results in your searches...

If that is true, then that means that a large % of the images in their database will never be found by a buyer.  For example, if there are 400,000 flower images in their database and only 10,000 are shown, then that means that 390,000 images will never be found (at least with that keyword).

Quote from: fintastique on May 14, 2007, 00:20
...plus they have a weighed keywords so for popular searches if a keyword isn't listed in the top 7 it won't be listed, I started obscure and then tried to widen the net.

And if this is true, then why would they have us include more than 7 keywords???