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GraphicLeftovers - any good news?

Started by stockastic, February 09, 2011, 19:07

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stockastic

#50
I get a staggering number of views on GL considering I've had no sales in 6 months.  The ratio of sales to views is something like 1/10 of what it is on IS, and my view numbers are still going up, week after week, with no sales.  

I am wondering what accounts for the thousands of views that never result in sales.  Has anyone else noticed this?  

lola

I have - with a small port of 20ish images, and 2 months or so on there, I have over 300 views and no sales.

sharpshot

I never take any notice of views, the sites use different ways to calculate views.  GL have enough sales to keep me interested.

CD123

Some sites can not differentiate between "human views" and visits by automated crawlers used by the search engines like Google, so they count those as views as well. Ignore views on sites on which you notice such a high counts, as it normally is due to this.

lola


Rv-Voyager

They have lots of views, but none of them have any money!

Morphart

First sale for me for around 400 vector file there since February. It kind off suprised me with that sale :p

Xalanx

got some 11000+ views in about 1-2 months, but no sales. 683 images, of which 64 "GL Collection Images".

Microbius

Still getting nice steady sales there, usually 1 a day or every two days.
I also price up a lot of my illustrations so all in all it's working out to be a nice little earner.
I'm glad I'm actually getting a bit of a return from one of smaller the sites I'm supporting on "moral" grounds!

luissantos84

Member Since: 03/18/2010
Portfolio Images: 2,810
GL Collection Images: 161
Total Image Views: 123,824
Total Sales: 15
Total Earnings: 43.16$

stockastic

I suppose that when a new site gets known for fair pricing, and for being easy to submit to, the images might pour in a lot faster than the buyers.  Maybe that's why I got sales in my first few month (last year) and then it dried up.  I'm guessing their client base is pretty narrow in focus and as a result a few contributors may find that they sell pretty well, but  most will just sit there.  Same with CC.  

But the reported number of views is crazy.

Microbius

I don't think it's fair to compare them to CC.
CC may have good intentions but I think I managed one sale there before I stopped uploading.
GL is in another league, still not the premier league of course!!

borg

Member Since: 02/17/2011
Portfolio Images: 556
GL Collection Images: 133
Total Earnings: $3.12
Total Image Views: 11,987
Total Sales: 1

Metsafile

I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.
Only one sale, but it was an image that hasn't sold everywhere else.

Member Since: 03/02/2011
Images: 39
GL Collection:6
One sale: 3.12
Views: 693

Microbius

Could this be an illustration vs photo thing?
I mainly do illustrations, maybe they are still better known as a graphics site?

sharpshot

I've sold 28 photos.  I don't have many illustrations but I've sold a few of those as well.  It's not big numbers but I'm pleased with their progress and I see some of my referrals are doing well.  I think most of the people that struggle to sell anything with GL will struggle with lots of other sites as well.  Some people have less than 500 images that aren't ideal for stock and they would probably be better off sticking to the big sites until their portfolio is much bigger or they have more good stock images.

luissantos84

Quote from: Microbius on May 24, 2011, 08:26
I don't think it's fair to compare them to CC.
CC may have good intentions but I think I managed one sale there before I stopped uploading.
GL is in another league, still not the premier league of course!!

Sure they are.. not that I had a lot of sales but comparing to CC.. CC even got approved corrupted files, they aren´t paying attention and they are not worth uploading, I have been "updating" my portfolio into some agencies and they weren´t one of them

GL Reviewer

Quote from: Metsafile on May 24, 2011, 10:34
I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.


Thank you. But just wait, more things are coming. That's all I'm saying. My lips are now sealed  ;)
I See Dead Pixels

Anita Potter

Quote from: GL Reviewer on May 24, 2011, 18:57
Quote from: Metsafile on May 24, 2011, 10:34
I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.


Thank you. But just wait, more things are coming. That's all I'm saying. My lips are now sealed  ;)

Ya tease LOL!

I'm about 3 downloads away from payout.  It's taken over a year to get there but I'm pretty content.  OOO!  Just saw that I have an image in the Fourth of July Lightbox Thank you :)

Total Image Views: 20,056
Total Sales: 13
Total Earnings:  $41.36
Member Since: 03/03/2010
Portfolio Images: 359
GL Collection Images: 7

michaeldb

Quote from: GL Reviewer on May 24, 2011, 18:57
Quote from: Metsafile on May 24, 2011, 10:34
I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.

Thank you. But just wait, more things are coming. That's all I'm saying. My lips are now sealed  ;)
This is good news! My GL earnings keep increasing, if the site upgrade increases the rate more, GL could become one of my major earners.
"My mind works like Google images." Temple Grandin

borg

So, what is your GL percentage of your portfolio...?  GL No#/ Port. No#*100

Mine is 24,23%

Koufax73

#71
Quote from: GL Reviewer on May 24, 2011, 18:57
Quote from: Metsafile on May 24, 2011, 10:34
I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.


Thank you. But just wait, more things are coming. That's all I'm saying. My lips are now sealed  ;)

One new thing that came was that they deleted some 400+ of my images (out of 500+) with this mail:

"We continue here at Graphic Leftovers with our site grooming which is designed to clear the image database of intellectual property issues. Images may be removed from your portfolio that range in subject from vehicles to consumer electronics to recognizable persons.
Because of the changing landscape of intellectual property issues, we need to do our best to assure Creative Content that is "Safe" for Buyers to use for any purpose including their advertising work. Redundant content or content which we feel does not meet today's competitive quality standards will also be removed.
We are sorry to say but many images were deleted due to the following:
1. Out of focus, dirt on surfaces, dirty or dented backgrounds
2. Poor photoshop editing - isolations
3. Poor lighting
4. Photos of hotels and other properties we cannot take
5. Poor photo images with high grain, out of focus or lighting issues
6. Simple or low commercial value images
In the future, please submit only your best work".

Me, stupid: I was sure I have to submit only my worst.
Never submitted copyrighted images (or they reject it first time I submit). And, like I've said to them, if I submitted OOF, poor edited, poor lighted images, why did they accept them?
Other thing I'd like is a little education and a little less arrogance: you know, things like "Hello", "Regards" and stuff like that.
I'd really, really like that sites like this one, who have the presumption to be fair with the contributors, would consider contributors collaborators and not annoying botherers.

stockastic

#72
Ouch,  that was harsh.

Getting an email that said "in the future please submit only your best work" wouldn't exactly make my day either.

luissantos84

I actually don´t think about it, I do have a few rejections and are approved at SS, IS, FT, DT etc.. I believe they know a lot more about illustrations than photos but who cares? I keep on uploading just like other agency, close to payout too

VB inc

Quote from: Koufax73 on June 03, 2011, 13:58
Quote from: GL Reviewer on May 24, 2011, 18:57
Quote from: Metsafile on May 24, 2011, 10:34
I think GL is one of the best looking sites out there.


Thank you. But just wait, more things are coming. That's all I'm saying. My lips are now sealed  ;)

One new thing that came was that they deleted some 400+ of my images (out of 500+) with this mail:

"We continue here at Graphic Leftovers with our site grooming which is designed to clear the image database of intellectual property issues. Images may be removed from your portfolio that range in subject from vehicles to consumer electronics to recognizable persons.
Because of the changing landscape of intellectual property issues, we need to do our best to assure Creative Content that is "Safe" for Buyers to use for any purpose including their advertising work. Redundant content or content which we feel does not meet today's competitive quality standards will also be removed.
We are sorry to say but many images were deleted due to the following:
1. Out of focus, dirt on surfaces, dirty or dented backgrounds
2. Poor photoshop editing - isolations
3. Poor lighting
4. Photos of hotels and other properties we cannot take
5. Poor photo images with high grain, out of focus or lighting issues
6. Simple or low commercial value images
In the future, please submit only your best work".

Me, stupid: I was sure I have to submit only my worst.
Never submitted copyrighted images (or they reject it first time I submit). And, like I've said to them, if I submitted OOF, poor edited, poor lighted images, why did they accept them?
Other thing I'd like is a little education and a little less arrogance: you know, things like "Hello", "Regards" and stuff like that.
I'd really, really like that sites like this one, who have the presumption to be fair with the contributors, would consider contributors collaborators and not annoying botherers.

Looks like they are finally tightening up control of intellectual property and copyrighted works. I mentioned this last year how they had so many files with copyright infrigement issues that i couldnt take this site seriously. Maybe they are starting to get real buyer traffic. I also mentioned that Graphicleftovers as a company name makes me feel like im shopping in the bargain bin/the throw away aisle/hobby central...