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BigStock e-mail about subscriptions and an RC-like payment system

Started by Jo Ann Snover, February 07, 2013, 19:14

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Poncke

Quote from: cthoman on February 14, 2013, 22:43
I got my first sub sale today too. It's impressive and disturbing how quickly they sold these sub packages.
Thank your old pal Oringer for that.

EmberMike


I got one today as well. Long way to go to 50k, though. ;)


tickstock

Just my opinion.

nicku

I believe the big majority of SS clients will stay on SS... BS has only 13 millions images online and SS over 21 millions. The extra 8M will make the difference for majority of clients.
........... at least i hope  ???

Allsa

I've got five 27 cent downloads so far. I'm beginning to think I should stop uploading to BS.  My earnings there are low enough where I could afford to close my account altogether, but I don't want to take that step just yet. What's everyone else doing?

nailiaschwarz

After receiving the last payout from BS, I told them to close my account ASAP. Let' see how long it will take ...

Jo Ann Snover

I'm planning to remove my portfolio March 15th if we don't get an opt out for the subs sales.

If we got an opt out, I'd opt out and stay (and hope that this toxic royalty scheme doesn't find its way to SS or credit sales at both Bigstock and SS).

cathyslife

Quote from: jsnover on February 19, 2013, 21:54
I'm planning to remove my portfolio March 15th if we don't get an opt out for the subs sales.

If we got an opt out, I'd opt out and stay (and hope that this toxic royalty scheme doesn't find its way to SS or credit sales at both Bigstock and SS).

Yep, I got a .27 today...on an image that previously got .50, 1.00 or 2.00. I will take my stuff down too if they don't provide an opt out. I am on Shutterstock and sell subscriptions there...I'm not interested in getting lower commissions here than there.
#boycottShutterstock   #shutterstockBoycott

gbalex

Quote from: nicku on February 15, 2013, 06:28
I believe the big majority of SS clients will stay on SS... BS has only 13 millions images online and SS over 21 millions. The extra 8M will make the difference for majority of clients.
........... at least i hope  ???

I would think that the bridge program will bring over the most sought after SS ports/files while also excluding the junk we need to wade thru as buyers. Therefore it may be easier to find the images buyers need on BS. I think that is why they are still offering .38 for the bridge images. 

I wonder how much BS benefits from the funds spent by SS on software and search development. If they share technology that would also cut BS overhead.


Beach Bum

Quote from: nicku on February 15, 2013, 06:28
I believe the big majority of SS clients will stay on SS... BS has only 13 millions images online and SS over 21 millions. The extra 8M will make the difference for majority of clients.
........... at least i hope  ???

I agree, and that difference will only increase.  Bigstock is basically irrelevant regarding income.  This is not like Istock where closing an account might cause a big drop in income.
www.hookstockimages.com   www.dannyhooks.com   
www.twitter.com/hookstockimages

Allsa


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I would think that the bridge program will bring over the most sought after SS ports/files while also excluding the junk we need to wade thru as buyers. Therefore it may be easier to find the images buyers need on BS. I think that is why they are still offering .38 for the bridge images. 

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This is the source of much of my anger regarding the situation - I have been diligently uploading to BS since 2005, and as a reward for my loyalty I get a lousy 27 cents compared to the 'bridge' people who receive 38 cents per subs download. If keep uploading in spite of this gross injustice, it will look like I am OK with it. Long term loyalty should not be rewarded with a kick in the a$$! If there is no opt out on subs I will,  at the very least,  stop uploading. A little site like BS should not be able to get away with treating contributors like this. And if they do get away with it, it will only serve to embolden the larger agencies.

suemack

Quote from: nailiaschwarz on February 19, 2013, 19:31
After receiving the last payout from BS, I told them to close my account ASAP. Let' see how long it will take ...

Didn't take long to close my account after I requested it. Went to check the next morning and it was gone.  I'd asked about the Opt Out button and was told it was not going to be an option.

dirkr

Do they pay out the open balance when I close my account? Or do I have to wait until I reach payout?

suemack

I would wait till you reach payout then close account.

SID

I was in the bridge and I pulled the plug.
I am tired of being cheated day by day!
"Subscriptions can allow more downloads, and higher total earnings..." - blah blah blah.
Sounds like a greedy thief to me - this is not the behavior of a reliable business partner.

Istock - cancelled
Getty - cancelled
Bigstock - cancelled
who's next - Shutter???

dirkr

Quote from: suemack on February 20, 2013, 09:35
I would wait till you reach payout then close account.
Thanks, sounds right. I'll wait and then decide after the next payout whether I'll pull the plug...

Tryingmybest

Quote from: EmberMike on February 14, 2013, 23:14

I got one today as well. Long way to go to 50k, though. ;)


50,000+ sales! We're all going to get rich at Bigstock!

PixelBytes

Quote from: TheBlackRhino on February 20, 2013, 20:00
Quote from: EmberMike on February 14, 2013, 23:14

I got one today as well. Long way to go to 50k, though. ;)


50,000+ sales! We're all going to get rich at Bigstock!

LOL!  I'm putting the down payment on my Bentley now ;D

EmberMike

Quote from: TheBlackRhino on February 20, 2013, 20:00
Quote from: EmberMike on February 14, 2013, 23:14

I got one today as well. Long way to go to 50k, though. ;)

50,000+ sales! We're all going to get rich at Bigstock!

I can appreciate their desire to set milestones that won't have to be changed. No one wants to see them pull an istock or a Fotolia and goal posts mid-game.

But 50k is unrealistic no matter how you look at it. That's tough to do at SS, and they're the #1 company in the business. No one is going to be hitting that number. Not in 6 months, or a year. Maybe 5 years out.

But even then, it's all up to how well Bigstock does. These are milestones that we can't hit no matter how hard we work. Can they sell that many subscriptions?

Vector artists are extra screwed in this. Bigstock is an especially tough site for vector sales. Not a whole lot of action there. I doubt I'll get close to even 20k at Bigstock even once the subscription program hits a running pace in a few years. It's just not that kind of place for vector artists.

SunnyMarsDesigns

I'm a few dollars away from giving them the arse. 

If Shutterstock later follow their lead with this RC payment system, I'll tell them to stick it too.  I've had a gutful of dirty microstock agents.  Last year I gave away Dreamstime, DepositPhotos and 123rf.  This year BigStock and who else?  I'm not even bothered anymore.  The more I let go, the less stressed I am, the better I feel and funnily enough, the more income I make from my images.


roede-orm

Quote from: SunnyMarsDesigns on February 20, 2013, 23:42
The more I let go, the less stressed I am, the better I feel and funnily enough, the more income I make from my images.

Really? How does it work?

tickstock

Just my opinion.

Beach Bum

Quote from: SunnyMarsDesigns on February 20, 2013, 23:42
I'm a few dollars away from giving them the arse. 

If Shutterstock later follow their lead with this RC payment system, I'll tell them to stick it too.  I've had a gutful of dirty microstock agents.  Last year I gave away Dreamstime, DepositPhotos and 123rf.  This year BigStock and who else?  I'm not even bothered anymore.  The more I let go, the less stressed I am, the better I feel and funnily enough, the more income I make from my images.

Are you selling from your own site?
www.hookstockimages.com   www.dannyhooks.com   
www.twitter.com/hookstockimages

RacePhoto

Can someone clear this up for me? I didn't see the announcement and have not found a post quoting the specific plan.

Bridge people get 38 cents until the end of June, and then go into the program at whatever 12 month download rate?

The rest of us are all on the last 12 months download total effective now?


Brave New Commissions

Just waiting for my first 25 cent download I guess?  :(  Then all I need is 199 more and I can make as much as I do on StinkStock. This is sad.

EmberMike

Quote from: RacePhoto on February 26, 2013, 16:31
Can someone clear this up for me? I didn't see the announcement and have not found a post quoting the specific plan.

Bridge people get 38 cents until the end of June, and then go into the program at whatever 12 month download rate?

The rest of us are all on the last 12 months download total effective now?...

Yep, that's right. Non-Bridge users like you and me are already at our 12-month rates, which is especially ridiculous since those rates are being based on 12 months in which subscriptions didn't exist, so there's no way we could possibly have any substantial sales volume to hit a $0.31+ rate.