Quote from: klsbear on July 12, 2013, 03:44
Interesting to see that they actually have June stats to run them "early" - makes me wonder if they really have the stats well in advance every month and just hold onto them to delay payout.

Naah, that would mean they haven't been completely honest with us, and you don't think that, do you? 

Quote from: Ploink on July 12, 2013, 06:28

Quote from: klsbear on July 12, 2013, 03:44
Interesting to see that they actually have June stats to run them "early" - makes me wonder if they really have the stats well in advance every month and just hold onto them to delay payout.

Naah, that would mean they haven't been completely honest with us, and you don't think that, do you? 

Well, it isn't really early, it is the 12th. I think there have been a few times they have run the numbers at about this time of the month.

Sales starting to come through

My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

BTW, Lobo says that " Typically we pay Partner Program royalties just before the end of the month", just to put that in perspective, here are the starting dates for PP runs over the last year: Aug 15, Sept 23, Oct 25, Nov 8 (!), Dec 13, Jan 17, Feb 15, March 15, April 22, so five of the last nine started on or before the middle of the month.
I suppose it is fair to say that by the time the process completes. a payment cut-off is reached and the payment is actually sent it is the end of the month or even the following month but, typically, the PP run starts at the middle of the month.

Nothing's normal about May's PP, Dan, but mine haven't started showing up, either.

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I've never - or hardly ever - had a day without PP sales over the last couple of years, so if I'm not seeing any it means they haven't started reporting mine yet.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 12, 2013, 08:40

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I've never - or hardly ever - had a day without PP sales over the last couple of years, so if I'm not seeing any it means they haven't started reporting mine yet.

But shouldnt you be able to see them in real time as on any other site I know of

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:52

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 12, 2013, 08:40

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I've never - or hardly ever - had a day without PP sales over the last couple of years, so if I'm not seeing any it means they haven't started reporting mine yet.

But shouldnt you be able to see them in real time as on any other site I know of

That would be nice - but you're wrong about other sites, Alamy sales sometimes appear months late, I'm pretty sure canstock has partner sales that appear some time after the event. The thing is, those are a drip here and there rather than a deluge that announces itself to be weeks old.

Well the IS forum discussion thread on this has been locked by Lobo. Why has he done this ? people are asking valid questions about their money owed. Who is this Lobo anyway ?

Quote from: ShadySue on July 11, 2013, 12:08

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on July 11, 2013, 12:03
No, I also believe Lobo is not lying. He publishes what he hears internally. The problem is somewhere else. It's the people who tell him what they are going to do today, tomorrow or next week who are not able to do their job properly or in time. And obviously any sentence starting with "If things work out as planned..." can in most cases be read as "We will experience further delays".

If I were him, I'd distance myself from these statements. I wouldn't say, "We will..." or "We hope to ..." He's been caught out far too many times before. I'd say something like, "The IT team is hoping to ..."

ShadySue, Lobo was reading your post. 

Quote from Lobo:
"We were going to queue up the May payments to run today, but the fine folks in development thought maybe it would be better if we processed both MAY and JUNE instead. The trick is, this is all going to have to be processed over the weekend. So it should be completed for Monday morning July 15, 2013.

That is correct, both May and June.

Sorry for any inconvenience all these delays may have caused. Hopefully getting both months in one fell swoop will soften the blow a little."

Quote from: Herg on July 12, 2013, 09:39
Well the IS forum discussion thread on this has been locked by Lobo. Why has he done this ?

It's because IS is a dictatorship.

Quote from: Herg on July 12, 2013, 09:39
Well the IS forum discussion thread on this has been locked by Lobo. Why has he done this ? people are asking valid questions about their money owed. Who is this Lobo anyway ?

He opened a new thread, which is still open, and his locking post linked to the new thread. (Forum moderator)
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=354958&page=1

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 12, 2013, 07:59
Well, it isn't really early, it is the 12th. I think there have been a few times they have run the numbers at about this time of the month.

Actually I believe three of the four PP payments have started around the 15th this year, so it seems a typical time of the month to have the reports. And given that it usually takes four to six days to process one month, I don't think June numbers will come in particularly early.

we correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all companies a dictatorship! in some way or another a boss or bosses at the top then us minions! ;-)

Anyway  the PP has started  :-) sigh of relief

Quote from: hyrons on July 12, 2013, 11:57
we correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all companies a dictatorship! in some way or another a boss or bosses at the top then us minions! ;-)

It wasn't always like that. There was a time when I was at the top and had minions to order about....

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:52

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 12, 2013, 08:40

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I've never - or hardly ever - had a day without PP sales over the last couple of years, so if I'm not seeing any it means they haven't started reporting mine yet.

But shouldnt you be able to see them in real time as on any other site I know of

Yes. It's a layer of unaccountability that permits +/- an axe handle in accuracy.  "Well our systems aren't 100% accurate but close enough" kind of thing. Think of the "potential revenue" they stand to lose if they had automated real time reporting. It's funny, I just implemented Salesforce.com at my company and "accountability in numbers" was one of the primary reasons. The IS system is really a way of "we'll pay them something, but it won't be accurate".  For those who don't recollect, a while back IS under reported PP sales significantly and the only reason they "adjusted payments" is because a lot of people complained to CR, including me.  Contributors also went public on the forums. If nobody would have said a thing, what do you think would have happened?

Quote from: klsbear on July 12, 2013, 03:44

Quote from: lisafx on July 12, 2013, 02:35

Quote from: tickstock on July 11, 2013, 23:07
They are going to do May and June together starting on the weekend.  http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=354958&page=1

That's a relief.  Fingers crossed it goes smoothly.

Interesting to see that they actually have June stats to run them "early" - makes me wonder if they really have the stats well in advance every month and just hold onto them to delay payout.

It's the 12th already.  Didn't April stats run earlier -- before the 18th???

Ed:  StockXpert posted May results on June 25.  They ARE available.

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I agree.

maybe its a different "connector" but its curious that we received Hemera sales (StockXpert) on June 25

Still no PP sales. Could it be that I havent sold 1 file in 2 months? I only have a small port, but the first month I joined I had 17 DLs. How exactly does this PP reporting work? Will that trickle in over the next few days? Do you get all sales reported at once? What gives?

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 16:19
Still no PP sales. Could it be that I havent sold 1 file in 2 months? I only have a small port, but the first month I joined I had 17 DLs. How exactly does this PP reporting work? Will that trickle in over the next few days? Do you get all sales reported at once? What gives?

it "usually" happens on the end of the following month (during 2 or 3 days, last weekend), this time we are still waiting for May reports

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 12, 2013, 08:40

Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2013, 08:33

Quote from: Dantheman on July 12, 2013, 08:18
My PP stats for may are still not showing up. Is this normal??

I find it very very annoying that there is no way to see the sales other then what IS reports you. I still havent seen any PP sales, but I dont even know if I have actually sold files on Thinkstock. And I cant say I trust them  very much. I dont even trust them to know how to turn on their PC in the morning.

I've never - or hardly ever - had a day without PP sales over the last couple of years, so if I'm not seeing any it means they haven't started reporting mine yet.

same here but how they process the PP payments are a mystery to me. It bounces around with not really any semblance of order that I could ever tell. I also agree with others here, there is NO WAY they will finish May AND June by Monday cut off payment request.

But if they DO manage to get it done then that just proves that they CAN run the script faster and just choose not to.

I still haven't got any PP yet.
And if I understand right I won't get the money before my birthday on 16th of July.
This is just unbelievable 

Quote from: mayaartist on July 12, 2013, 17:39
I still haven't got any PP yet.
And if I understand right I won't get the money before my birthday on 16th of July.
This is just unbelievable 

My first one's turned up. The script must be running really slowly.