Hi All

I sell on Pond5 (with the same username as I have registered here). If anyone is interested in getting out of stock video I may be interested in buying the rights to your existing portfolios.

Let me know if you would like to talk about it further.

TE

admin edit: changed the subject to be more descriptive

Would you happen to be " Acelerator"?

Quote from: tab62 on September 08, 2013, 18:26
Would you happen to be " Acelerator"?

No.

Don't know who Acelerator is!

As I said I am on P5 with the same username.

sorry for the investigation but pond5 allows that

279 / 36 = 8 clips sold per month

I guess it isn't pond5 making you the money, perhaps you could share with other footage contributors where you do big bucks or will you keep it for yourself and then submit after buying?

I uploaded a few clips and then "forgot about" Pond5 for quite a while. It was only when I got a sale that I figured it was worth looking into more. Most of the content was uploaded in the last 2 years and a lot of it is SD which obviously is less in demand. My current split is around 2700 HD and 4500 SD.

My view on stock is that it is a long term investment - I earn my "corn" in other areas of TV (I'll give you a clue - my username!).

At the moment I earn $X00 a month from this stock on Pond5. The goal through adding more footage by either shooting more myself (over 1000 clips currently in edit / upload) or buying other portfolios is to get to $X000 fairly quickly at which point it should be self financing (i.e to allow me to pay people to shoot and edit for me).

At least that is the plan! I already completed the purchase of 1 library which I am keeping separate at the moment and am negotiating to buy another.

TE

that is interesting, thanks for the explanation!

Quote from: TheEngineer on September 08, 2013, 19:38
I uploaded a few clips and then "forgot about" Pond5 for quite a while. It was only when I got a sale that I figured it was worth looking into more. Most of the content was uploaded in the last 2 years and a lot of it is SD which obviously is less in demand. My current split is around 2700 HD and 4500 SD.

My view on stock is that it is a long term investment - I earn my "corn" in other areas of TV (I'll give you a clue - my username!).

At the moment I earn $X00 a month from this stock on Pond5. The goal through adding more footage by either shooting more myself (over 1000 clips currently in edit / upload) or buying other portfolios is to get to $X000 fairly quickly at which point it should be self financing (i.e to allow me to pay people to shoot and edit for me).

At least that is the plan! I already completed the purchase of 1 library which I am keeping separate at the moment and am negotiating to buy another.

TE

So, if there is so much money, why would anyone want to sell you their work?

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on September 08, 2013, 21:35

Quote from: TheEngineer on September 08, 2013, 19:38
I uploaded a few clips and then "forgot about" Pond5 for quite a while. It was only when I got a sale that I figured it was worth looking into more. Most of the content was uploaded in the last 2 years and a lot of it is SD which obviously is less in demand. My current split is around 2700 HD and 4500 SD.

My view on stock is that it is a long term investment - I earn my "corn" in other areas of TV (I'll give you a clue - my username!).

At the moment I earn $X00 a month from this stock on Pond5. The goal through adding more footage by either shooting more myself (over 1000 clips currently in edit / upload) or buying other portfolios is to get to $X000 fairly quickly at which point it should be self financing (i.e to allow me to pay people to shoot and edit for me).

At least that is the plan! I already completed the purchase of 1 library which I am keeping separate at the moment and am negotiating to buy another.

TE

So, if there is so much money, why would anyone want to sell you their work?

perhaps someone that needs money now, if I had a buyer for my pictures I would sell them yesterday

And you can always produce more work after selling your current crop.

Hi Sean

As luissantos84 and elvinstar rightly point out, sometimes people need money "now" and for whatever reason cannot borrow through the usual channels.

One person I know got into stock video part time at University and sold their portfolio when they graduated and went into their chosen career (nothing to do with stills or video). The money they made from selling their portfolio paid for the deposit on a house

I completely understand why most people wouldn't want to do this, hence my thread title, but for some people it can be the right solution for their problems.

TE

I will sell mine for 1.5 million.

www.istockphoto.com/jjneff

Quote from: jjneff on September 09, 2013, 14:57
I will sell mine for 1.5 million.

www.istockphoto.com/jjneff

lets say you are doing 5k $ / month

that is 25 years income

usually more than 5k a month :-)

I don't see the logic in this kind of business plan..

If someone wanted to buy my vectors, I would probably not sell it for less than what I expect to make in 50 years..

how clever would it be to pay me 50 years' potential revenue in advance? 

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Quote from: tickstock on September 09, 2013, 16:27

Quote from: cidepix on September 09, 2013, 16:12
I don't see the logic in this kind of business plan..

If someone wanted to buy my vectors, I would probably not sell it for less than what I expect to make in 50 years..

how clever would it be to pay me 50 years' potential revenue in advance? 

Well in that case I'll sell you my portfolio for half that, 25 years earnings.

3 years here (not kidding)

Quote from: tickstock on September 09, 2013, 16:27

Quote from: cidepix on September 09, 2013, 16:12
I don't see the logic in this kind of business plan..

If someone wanted to buy my vectors, I would probably not sell it for less than what I expect to make in 50 years..

how clever would it be to pay me 50 years' potential revenue in advance? 

Well in that case I'll sell you my portfolio for half that, 25 years earnings.

obviously, I am not interested in buying anyone's port as clearly stated in my post that I find this kind of business plan ridiculous..

I am not buying.. I wouldn't even pay you 1 years worth of earnings..

but if anyone is nuts enough,and interested in buying mine, I will sell it for 50 years' earnings.. that's my price.. not my recommendation.. if anyone is willing to pay, I will take it..

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Quote from: tickstock on September 09, 2013, 17:10

Quote from: cidepix on September 09, 2013, 17:03

Quote from: tickstock on September 09, 2013, 16:27

Quote from: cidepix on September 09, 2013, 16:12
I don't see the logic in this kind of business plan..

If someone wanted to buy my vectors, I would probably not sell it for less than what I expect to make in 50 years..

how clever would it be to pay me 50 years' potential revenue in advance? 

Well in that case I'll sell you my portfolio for half that, 25 years earnings.

obviously, I am not interested in buying anyone's port as clearly stated in my post that I find this kind of business plan ridiculous..

I am not buying.. I wouldn't even pay you 1 years worth of earnings..

but if anyone is nuts enough,and interested in buying mine, I will sell it for 50 years' earnings.. that's my price.. not my recommendation.. if anyone is willing to pay, I will take it..

The logic is simple.  Some people want/need money in the present while others can wait 10 years to get it.  Some people are willing to sell 10+ years of earnings for 5 years up front, it's a risk but both parties can benefit from this kind of deal.  If someone would offer me 5 years of earnings I might take it even if I was guaranteed to make 50% more over 10 years.

I understand that logic but I am "really" not interested in selling my port for any amount..

I have enough vectors to run my own sites and selling my work means "bye bye my websites" until I draw as many vectors again..

and that's the risk I don't want to take, because who can say the traffic my sites get will not explode in a year which will cause an explosion in earnings too.. I have no guarantee that it will happen but I am more interested in finding out.. more traffic means more sales.. and the same port can possibly make much more than it is currently making..

if I am going to give up that possibility, I am going to ask for big bucks..

so let me correct what I said earlier: I understand the logic "for you", but makes no sense "for me" 

If someone offered me 50 years up front I would bite their hand off! 

As others have pointed out there are many reasons why people sell, some good, some bad.

TE

Quote from: TheEngineer on September 09, 2013, 18:26
If someone offered me 50 years up front I would bite their hand off! 

As others have pointed out there are many reasons why people sell, some good, some bad.

TE

just for curiosity, how many years of income are you willing to pay?

Quote from: luissantos84 on September 09, 2013, 20:22

Quote from: TheEngineer on September 09, 2013, 18:26
If someone offered me 50 years up front I would bite their hand off! 

As others have pointed out there are many reasons why people sell, some good, some bad.

TE

just for curiosity, how many years of income are you willing to pay?

my guess is 2 months 

Quote from: luissantos84 on September 09, 2013, 20:22

Quote from: TheEngineer on September 09, 2013, 18:26
If someone offered me 50 years up front I would bite their hand off! 

As others have pointed out there are many reasons why people sell, some good, some bad.

TE

just for curiosity, how many years of income are you willing to pay?

Depends on the quality of the material and the history. Ideally looking for a portfolio with 2-3 years of solid sales figures to base any valuation on.

But certainly more than 3 months 

see I was right.. someone who asks for rights of your content is never prepared to pay it's proper value..

because If they do, there is no way they profit..

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