Quote from: chromaco on February 12, 2014, 18:57
"People are actually smart enough to read and research for themselves and come to their own conclusions."

I certainly hope so! There is some really great information in this thread and some really misleading things too. Everyone who is reading this thread please take some time to find out the whole picture.

I totally agree.

Seriously Cathy, you are putting words in my mouth, even with the exact quote next to it. LOL. Whatever. You have yet to produce ANY proof of your accusations but still continue to ignore ALL explanations. Symbiostocks is OPEN to everyone, there are NO secrets.

You blame your lack of sales on whatever you can find, except yourself.

Cathy, how many sales do you have with your new theme?

Quote from: Ron on February 12, 2014, 17:41
There are a lot of smart people and semi developers starting up and running sites. If they had found a pyramid scheme or something amiss with the code or networking, they would have said something about it. There is 1 person accusing Symbiostock of being a pyramid scheme, there are 170 odd other people with a different experience.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 18:46
There are also many people who don't post their reservations for fear of getting the same treatment you are giving me.

This shows how mentally disturbed you are.

ANYONE participating in the Symbiostock project that feared any kind of persecution, just needed to create a new account on MSG without any type of identification that could connect it to his/her site and speak freely. They could even create a new mail account so there would be no traces.

Any 10 year old knows this. So where are your frightened people? You're a psychiatric case with a sociopath personality that doesn't feel remorse in the damage you're making to hundreds of people contributing to this project.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 18:46But even though I supported the project for almost 10 months, you are discounting my opinion now just because it doesnt agree with yours.

Your only question have been answered tenths of time. If you don't believe in the answers, get over it. And just like you are not forced to agree with other, others are not forced to agree with you!!!!!!!! Is that hard to understand or are you still bent on brainwash people to agree with you?!

And you are not trying to discuss anything. What you're trying to do is to deliberately destroy Symbiostock based on a grudge and shallow envy and in total disregard with other people interests and that discredits you as a person and a business person.

Quote from: Ron on February 12, 2014, 19:17
Cathy, how many sales do you have with your new theme?

I am willing to give the new theme at least 10 months, same as SY, to see if it equals or betters the results I got with SY. I will report my findings back, especially if I make two sales, because that will mean it works twice as well as SY.  If I make 1 sale, it will still prove that the networking feature is irrelevant, because I made the same amount of sales without the networking feature. If I make 0 sales, but I am still selling my images on SS, then my conclusion will be that the competition in the search engines for an individual site is incredible. If my images are still selling on SS, it can't be because my images are crap, can it? Otherwise they wouldnt be selling there, either. And I havent uploaded anything new to SS in probably close to a year and I'm still getting payouts every month.

It's all research, Ron. Don't care if you or others believe it, or call me names, or whatever.

Quote from: StockPhotosArt on February 12, 2014, 19:25

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 18:46
There are also many people who don't post their reservations for fear of getting the same treatment you are giving me.

This shows how mentally disturbed you are.

ANYONE participating in the Symbiostock project that feared any kind of persecution, just needed to create a new account on MSG without any type of identification that could connect it to his/her site and speak freely. They could even create a new mail account so there would be no traces.

Any 10 year old knows this. So where are your frightened people? You're a psychiatric case with a sociopath personality that doesn't feel remorse in the damage you're making to hundreds of people contributing to this project.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 18:46But even though I supported the project for almost 10 months, you are discounting my opinion now just because it doesnt agree with yours.

Your only question have been answered tenths of time. If you don't believe in the answers, get over it. And just like you are not forced to agree with other, others are not forced to agree with you!!!!!!!! Is that hard to understand or are you still bent on brainwash people to agree with you?!

And you are not trying to discuss anything. What you're trying to do is to deliberately destroy Symbiostock based on a grudge and shallow envy and in total disregard with other people interests and that discredits you as a person and a business person.

There's all that name calling again. 

I don't believe in the answers. I have gotten over it. Don't care what people believe. Said that in my posts above already.

This has been an excellent study in sociology and the gang mentality!

Quote from: StockPhotosArt on February 12, 2014, 19:25
This shows how mentally disturbed you are.
... You're a psychiatric case with a sociopath personality

@StockPhotosArt - your post totally undermines anything useful you might have to say.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 19:32
I am willing to give the new theme at least 10 months, same as SY, to see if it equals or betters the results I got with SY. I will report my findings back, especially if I make two sales, because that will mean it works twice as well as SY.  If I make 1 sale, it will still prove that the networking feature is irrelevant, because I made the same amount of sales without the networking feature. If I make 0 sales, but I am still selling my images on SS, then my conclusion will be that the competition in the search engines for an individual site is incredible. If my images are still selling on SS, it can't be because my images are crap, can it? Otherwise they wouldnt be selling there, either. And I havent uploaded anything new to SS in probably close to a year and I'm still getting payouts every month.

Cathy, I wish you much success with your new theme, but some of the logic throws me just a little. If you don't like the networking side of Sym, you have the option of disabling it (I did it, it was effective). Then you rely only on the SEO built into WP and/or the theme itself.

I find the argument a little like saying you didn't get sales through Yahoo, so you are blocking them and only appearing on Google. I would think that there's no such thing as having too many links out there if you're trying to sell something online.

Finally, comparing sales of stock photos from different sites is irrelevant and inconclusive for the most part. A site could have 50 premium, high quality shots compared to another with thousands of lower, simple shots while a third may only have different pricing. They will all have different results. If you want to compare "traffic" instead, find a site with similar pictures, inbound and outbound links, quantity of images and design aesthetics and maybe you could draw some conclusions from that. My 2 cents.

Quote from: farbled on February 12, 2014, 19:42
Cathy, I wish you much success with your new theme, but some of the logic throws me just a little. If you don't like the networking side of Sym, you have the option of disabling it (I did it, it was effective). Then you rely only on the SEO built into WP and/or the theme itself.

I find the argument a little like saying you didn't get sales through Yahoo, so you are blocking them and only appearing on Google. I would think that there's no such thing as having too many links out there if you're trying to sell something online.

Finally, comparing sales of stock photos from different sites is irrelevant and inconclusive for the most part. A site could have 50 premium, high quality shots compared to another with thousands of lower, simple shots while a third may only have different pricing. They will all have different results. If you want to compare "traffic" instead, find a site with similar pictures, inbound and outbound links, quantity of images and design aesthetics and maybe you could draw some conclusions from that. My 2 cents.

No worries. If what I have said is meaningless, then it can be ignored. If someone sees some meaning in it, they can use it however they want. 

Thanks for the good wishes, I wish you success, too.

Quote from: Ron on February 12, 2014, 19:17
Cathy, how many sales do you have with your new theme?

I am guessing none.. if symbiostock is not working,  the other solution is less likely to work..

Why am I saying this? Because I had a wordpress store on the same domain from 2009 to 2013.. and symbiostock's first 10-11 months is already better than the 3-4 years I had with that other script.. slightly better money wise, but it is impressive since symbiostock only needed about one year to match my previous 3 something years..

I hope it works better for her, but this is my experience..

Quote from: cidepix on February 12, 2014, 20:11

Quote from: Ron on February 12, 2014, 19:17
Cathy, how many sales do you have with your new theme?

I am guessing none.. if symbiostock is not working,  the other solution is less likely to work..

Why am I saying this? Because I had a wordpress store on the same domain from 2009 to 2013.. and symbiostock's first 10-11 months is already better than the 3-4 years I had with that other script.. slightly better money wise, but it is impressive since symbiostock only needed about one year to match my previous 3 something years..

I hope it works better for her, but this is my experience..

see post #155 above. Only changed about 3 weeks ago. Willing to give it at least 10 months, same as SY. I hope it works better for me, too. But my expectations are very low. If I sell 2 images, I will have doubled my sales over what I did with the SY theme.

Glad it's working better for you. Hopefully with more people building SY sites, you will see an increase in sales.

Quote from: cathyslife stockphotos.com on February 12, 2014, 20:18

Quote from: cidepix on February 12, 2014, 20:11

Quote from: Ron on February 12, 2014, 19:17
Cathy, how many sales do you have with your new theme?

I am guessing none.. if symbiostock is not working,  the other solution is less likely to work..

Why am I saying this? Because I had a wordpress store on the same domain from 2009 to 2013.. and symbiostock's first 10-11 months is already better than the 3-4 years I had with that other script.. slightly better money wise, but it is impressive since symbiostock only needed about one year to match my previous 3 something years..

I hope it works better for her, but this is my experience..

see post #155 above. Only changed about 3 weeks ago. Willing to give it at least 10 months, same as SY. I hope it works better for me, too. But my expectations are very low. If I sell 2 images, I will have doubled my sales over what I did with the SY theme.

Glad it's working better for you. Hopefully with more people building SY sites, you will see an increase in sales.

I see..

2 sales will surpass symbiostock but it might be a coincidence since there is not much difference between 1 and 2 sales..

imo you should have continued with symbiostock,  but that's your thing to decide..

Again I hope it works out well.. I see you are using photocrati.. that wasn't the one I used, so it is possible your results will be better..

If it helps, I recommend to stay away from google Adwords unless you like burning money.. do not spend money at all.. I tried them all in 4 years and traditional advertising is not working well for stock imaging..

Focusing on SEO is the best thing you can do..

Doubling zero is still zero. If you get two sales, your new theme is an infinite times better then Symbiostock. How about that.

Cathy, when in 10 months you dont have any sales, I hope you will also accuse  Erick Danzer, Photocrati's founder and CEO of your bad results and make a stink on their forum. http://members.photocrati.com/

Quote from: cidepix on February 12, 2014, 20:33
I see..

2 sales will surpass symbiostock but it might be a coincidence since there is not much difference between 1 and 2 sales..

imo you should have continued with symbiostock,  but that's your thing to decide..

Again I hope it works out well.. I see you are using photocrati.. that wasn't the one I used, so it is possible your results will be better..

If it helps, I recommend to stay away from google Adwords unless you like burning money.. do not spend money at all.. I tried them all in 4 years and traditional advertising is not working well for stock imaging..

Focusing on SEO is the best thing you can do..

Thanks for the tips, cidepix. Adwords...no, not going there. Focusing on SEO...that is my intent. We shall see.

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It is NOT ok to insult and be nasty.