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DepositPhotos and Shotshop- standard purchases gives only subscription amounts?

Started by roede-orm, February 12, 2014, 08:50

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PZF

I stopped uploading to this site ages ago - just too iffy for my liking! But I left some photos there in the hope of a final payout (probably in about 2017!).
I hadn't opted out of partner sites being barely aware of them. In any case, I was no longer very interested in DP, and I rarely read this thread for the same reason.

But for info: the check box appeared UNCHECKED re partner sites.
I have promptly checked it!

Ariene

 ??? This is unbelievable:

"...we would be glad to re-start our cooperation..."

After all I saw and went through? No, thanks  ::)

Mantis

Quote from: Ariene on June 03, 2014, 12:37
??? This is unbelievable:

"...we would be glad to re-start our cooperation..."

After all I saw and went through? No, thanks  ::)

Did they ask you to rejoin?

Ariene

1 or 2 months ago I removed all images and left account empty to see if something happens after sh*tshop acction. In next days I was going to close account definitely. Today they asked me for reason why I deleted images. In respond I asked if they can close my account.

I can't tell how many emails we have exchanged last months because of Partner programs etc. How hard it was to get any info, long story. Many bad things happened here, to many to come back ever.

I just can't imagine ... Why so big agencies treat us as we are fools?!  ???  ::)

Mantis

Quote from: Ariene on June 03, 2014, 13:55
1 or 2 months ago I removed all images and left account empty to see if something happens after sh*tshop acction. In next days I was going to close account definitely. Today they asked me for reason why I deleted images. In respond I asked if they can close my account.

I can't tell how many emails we have exchanged last months because of Partner programs etc. How hard it was to get any info, long story. Many bad things happened here, to many to come back ever.

I just can't imagine ... Why so big agencies treat us as we are fools?!  ???  ::)

Wow. Well at least we know they are responding to open, yet empty accounts. I will likely be next. I don't intend to tell them to close my account before I disable each image and verify they are off their stupid partner sites. After that it's bye bye.

Ron

You cant delete images from DP, only deactivate. Same with DT. I closed my account about 1.5 years ago on DT and they still had my images when I asked them to reactivate my account.

Mantis

Quote from: Ron on June 03, 2014, 15:23
You cant delete images from DP, only deactivate. Same with DT. I closed my account about 1.5 years ago on DT and they still had my images when I asked them to reactivate my account.

Yes, deactivate, not delete. Why they hold us hostage this way is criminal.

PixelBytes

Quote from: Ron on June 03, 2014, 15:23
You cant delete images from DP, only deactivate. Same with DT. I closed my account about 1.5 years ago on DT and they still had my images when I asked them to reactivate my account.

Sounds like you saved a lot of time not having to reupload your port.  Is that such a bad thing?

Jo Ann Snover

Quote from: PixelBytes on June 03, 2014, 21:38
Quote from: Ron on June 03, 2014, 15:23
You cant delete images from DP, only deactivate. Same with DT. I closed my account about 1.5 years ago on DT and they still had my images when I asked them to reactivate my account.

Sounds like you saved a lot of time not having to reupload your port.  Is that such a bad thing?

The images were no longer there when I returned to DT after 3 years as an iStock exclusive. You can't assume they will still be there (I don't know if it's time or other circumstances that determine that)

PixelBytes

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on June 03, 2014, 21:48
Quote from: PixelBytes on June 03, 2014, 21:38
Quote from: Ron on June 03, 2014, 15:23
You cant delete images from DP, only deactivate. Same with DT. I closed my account about 1.5 years ago on DT and they still had my images when I asked them to reactivate my account.

Sounds like you saved a lot of time not having to reupload your port.  Is that such a bad thing?

The images were no longer there when I returned to DT after 3 years as an iStock exclusive. You can't assume they will still be there (I don't know if it's time or other circumstances that determine that)

Strange.  Seems like everything in this business is turning out to be a cr@pshoot. 

MarcvsTvllivs

...aaaaaand I just had a "sub" sale on an image that was deactivated months ago (with the rest of my port). Great.

I am beginning to feel that uploading my port to Depositphotos was the biggest mistake I made in this business.

Mantis

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 17:22
...aaaaaand I just had a "sub" sale on an image that was deactivated months ago (with the rest of my port). Great.

I am beginning to feel that uploading my port to Depositphotos was the biggest mistake I made in this business.

Man I would lawyer up and seek copyright restitution.

MarcvsTvllivs

Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2014, 19:16
Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 17:22
...aaaaaand I just had a "sub" sale on an image that was deactivated months ago (with the rest of my port). Great.

I am beginning to feel that uploading my port to Depositphotos was the biggest mistake I made in this business.

Man I would lawyer up and seek copyright restitution.

If I knew who bought it I might. They are the ones using it without a proper license, and it is them one would have to go after to really screw Depositphotos.

Mantis

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 19:48
Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2014, 19:16
Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 17:22
...aaaaaand I just had a "sub" sale on an image that was deactivated months ago (with the rest of my port). Great.

I am beginning to feel that uploading my port to Depositphotos was the biggest mistake I made in this business.

Man I would lawyer up and seek copyright restitution.

If I knew who bought it I might. They are the ones using it without a proper license, and it is them one would have to go after to really screw Depositphotos.

But aren't they selling your work without your permission? That's illegal.

MarcvsTvllivs

Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2014, 20:03
Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 19:48
Quote from: Mantis on June 18, 2014, 19:16
Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on June 18, 2014, 17:22
...aaaaaand I just had a "sub" sale on an image that was deactivated months ago (with the rest of my port). Great.

I am beginning to feel that uploading my port to Depositphotos was the biggest mistake I made in this business.

Man I would lawyer up and seek copyright restitution.

If I knew who bought it I might. They are the ones using it without a proper license, and it is them one would have to go after to really screw Depositphotos.

But aren't they selling your work without your permission? That's illegal.

Sure, but what damages could I really ask for? If it would look even the slightest bit like I might win they would pay up the few hundred bucks and be rid of me.

Sue the buyer and you have news. "Buyer of major stock site Depositphotos sued because Depositphotos sells photos that they have no right to sell." And Depositphotos with no direct way to stop the case, as they aren't even a party to it.

Ah well, one can dream. In all honesty I am not even sure I would win. I am sure they have weasel words somewhere in their terms, and I am sure they have more expensive lawyers. Let's not even speak of the quality of judges, juries and the legal system in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. :)

StockCube

Can anyone tell me where exactly to find this opt out checkbox that has appeared on Deposit?  I have logged in and looked on my profile page but I can't see it at the bottom - I just have three check boxes for email notifications there.
Blogging on leaving iStock exclusivity and becoming an independent:
http://stockcube-stockcube.blogspot.com/

roede-orm

Quote from: StockCube on June 21, 2014, 12:45
Can anyone tell me where exactly to find this opt out checkbox that has appeared on Deposit?  I have logged in and looked on my profile page but I can't see it at the bottom - I just have three check boxes for email notifications there.
When I opted out some month ago, there was no checkbox at all. It was necessary to write an email to DP. I had to do this 3 times before I've got an answer.

StockCube

Yes, I emailed them back in February, but when I was reading through and catching up on this thread I saw a  bunch of posts from people saying that they subsequently added a checkbox to allow you to opt out on your profile page and I can't find one on mine....
Blogging on leaving iStock exclusivity and becoming an independent:
http://stockcube-stockcube.blogspot.com/

pixsol

Yes. There was an 'Opt Out' checkbox under 'Profile' and I had seen it. I checked it up yesterday and it seems to have been removed. I did check in a few other places, but could not find it.

StockCube

Excellent - they are backtracking again as soon as they figure people have turned their backs.  >:(

Thanks for looking for me.
Blogging on leaving iStock exclusivity and becoming an independent:
http://stockcube-stockcube.blogspot.com/

Mantis

I continue to check the DP partner sites looking for my work.  I suspect they will try to sneak our work back into them and call it a bug. Either way, everyone should keep at least spot checking Deposit Photos partner sites and report any shenanigans here.

jarih

I asked that's going on, Vicky´s answer:

We have removed this option from photographers' profile since we are completely updating our API functionality. Our API partners will be able to re-sell our files purchased by credits only and photographers' commissions will be higher than they receive from direct sales.
"Money won't make you happy" © Kelly Thompson

photostockad

If they are not transparent with PP sales, we don't know if a sale is from DP or from API ... so it is a door open for lies.

Nikovsk

Here's a new one: I recently uploaded to DP, after a month with 0 sales I deactivated all images.
Today I decided to log in just to see how things were and I got several 0.30 sales.

0.30 is the regular subscription price? I wonder if any of my files are in some shady PP there.
Well, one thing is for sure - sales are not real time (delayed at least 1 month).

Mantis

Quote from: Nikovsk on June 23, 2014, 15:45
Here's a new one: I recently uploaded to DP, after a month with 0 sales I deactivated all images.
Today I decided to log in just to see how things were and I got several 0.30 sales.

0.30 is the regular subscription price? I wonder if any of my files are in some shady PP there.
Well, one thing is for sure - sales are not real time (delayed at least 1 month).

That's assuming your images are NOT on their partner sites.  Technically, if API, they should die the moment you deactivate them.  But I personally believe that there is a SOLID REASON why they only let you deactivate images and not delete them.  You can fill in the blanks.