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Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?

Started by Rinderart, September 15, 2014, 19:50

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Phadrea

Quote from: Rinderart on October 20, 2014, 22:19
Quote from: Herg on October 20, 2014, 10:36
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.

Well I have been getting steady increased sales for some time and then suddenly (like a lot of others) a drop. that is nothing to do with the work. It's something more serious like Google.

Love your abstract painting BTW. Stunning colours.  :D

Lightrecorder

Quote from: Rinderart on October 20, 2014, 22:19
Quote from: Herg on October 20, 2014, 10:36
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.
The change of your tune is remarkable. You were always saying you were more concerned about others, now you do well again, and you change your tune about SS?

oboy

The first half of the month was very good, but starting with the 15th of this month, I have a huge drop in sales and referral income. Not sure why  :(

Rinderart

Quote from: Lightrecorder on October 21, 2014, 10:03
Quote from: Rinderart on October 20, 2014, 22:19
Quote from: Herg on October 20, 2014, 10:36
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.
The change of your tune is remarkable. You were always saying you were more concerned about others, now you do well again, and you change your tune about SS?

Not that well my friend. trying to be positive. negative is screwing with my head and work. although yesterday was almost a BDE. we either Do or Die. Been around Micro 10 years and it bothers me more that all the work is going to waste. Im selling...Just not new work for Micro.. Luckily, I've never been one to put all eggs into one basket.

Allsa

October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.

pancaketom

Quote from: Allsa on October 21, 2014, 23:35
October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.

I must be on the opposite selling schedule - my first week was awful and it has been quite good since then other than the usual weekends and 2 other days.
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Phadrea

Same for me. October started well and after the 10th on nearly all sites I have work (audio and images) sales drastically reduced. I absolutely hate Google because it has done this so many times and I am sure they enjoy ruining small business incomes.

panicAttack

my sales completely disappeared this week.


Lightrecorder

Whatever the powers-that-be say (Scott?), but SS definitely throws the switch every now and then. There is no one that will convince me they dont, not even the 16 pager where Scott tries to confuse everyone with a lot of empty words. The difference in ODDs and SODs from one day to the next, is just telling.

Exactly on the 15th this month the switch was flipped and my ODDs and SODs basically dried up. Compared to the first half of the month where I had them almost daily.

Looking at the replies here, it is just true. I was going great and now I am not, and others werent, and now they are, and it all happened around the same time.

stockmarketer

I'm seeing consistency this month... none of the flipping of a switch stuff that others are mentioning.  I don't believe SS made any changes this month.  I would see it in my data, and it's just not there.

I wonder if it depends on your volume?  I'm guessing the more you sell the less likely you see wild fluctuations.   

One cause for someone seeing crazy ups and downs... sometimes a single buyer will buy several of your images at once.  You might have multiple multi-buyers one day and none the next, and that might feel like someone "flipped a switch," but in reality it's just normal for SS.


Lightrecorder

Dont you think I would know my own patterns by now??

Mantis

Whether there's a switch or not, SS used to be 'more or less' predictably consistent, at least within a tighter upper and lower limit. My experience is like Lightrecorder's. Giant swings. What do I mean by giant? Of course that varies for each of us and "giant" is also defined differently by most of us to be fair.  But lets use some close but fictitious data (so I don't violate SS policy). One month I make $1000. The next month I make $600. That is "giant" for me anyway. But it definitely seems to be the new norm for my port in the last 12 months or so. Other mileage like Stockmarketer may, of course, vary. Could very well be my port, who knows. But one thing is for sure. WE as contributors will never know. We just have to learn to live with it.

miketravels


Quote from: Allsa on October 21, 2014, 23:35
October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.
same here about 80% of my sales this month came in the first week or so


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miketravels

I wonder if ss spends different amounts on advertising and google search etc throughout the month and maybe on different subject areas resulting in getting customers for different things which then affects different peoples portfolios.


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Lightrecorder

How does one go from BME followed by a month making the same as  the month 12 months ago, yet over a thousand more images? Flipping switches I tells ya !

Lightrecorder

Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?

Photominer

I hit my average monthly total too early in the month, now my sales have decreased by more than half this week and are still falling. I expect to end up well within my usual monthly sales total (+- 10%), as is usual for this year.

BigBubba

So far +65% from last month. 550 images in my portfolio... Small.


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PixelBytes

Quote from: Lightrecorder on October 24, 2014, 15:15
Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?

I did not minus you, but I don't think anyone disagrees with your stats.  The switch flipping idea seems far fetched tho.  I get the swings too, but they seem random to me.  I doubt there is a plot against us.

Mantis

Quote from: PixelBytes on October 24, 2014, 16:51
Quote from: Lightrecorder on October 24, 2014, 15:15
Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?

I did not minus you, but I don't think anyone disagrees with your stats.  The switch flipping idea seems far fetched tho.  I get the swings too, but they seem random to me.  I doubt there is a plot against us.

Well, dreamstime uses a "switch". Serban has said publically that it's the only "fair" way to give everyone good placement. Obviously it's not a switch, but something in the algorthym that moves you up and down the rank on a period basis.

Lightrecorder

Mantis understand it.

I am also not implying there is a plot against us. Words mouth etc.

Rinderart

Quote from: Liorpt on October 24, 2014, 15:31
So far +65% from last month. 550 images in my portfolio... Small.


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Can we have a link to your work.

BigBubba

Sent you the link.
Didn't post it here cause I thing people have seen enough "x on white" photos.  😊


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spike

Is last week pretty horrible to everyone or just me?

I mean, in the graph which shows overall earnings, there's a small drop, but in the "earnings from new content", it fell to like 20% of it's normal value.

Dook

Quote from: spike on October 26, 2014, 11:01
Is last week pretty horrible to everyone or just me?

I mean, in the graph which shows overall earnings, there's a small drop, but in the "earnings from new content", it fell to like 20% of it's normal value.
Yes, new content selling less, but overall earnings are the same for me. Must be some sort of Best match switch again.