http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/a-look-back-at-2014-by-shutterstocks-founder-and-ceo-jon-oringer

Yes, indeed. Well done! Noone has sailed the difficult world of stock as cleverly as they have.

Some nice reading.  A raise would be nice since they are doing so good...

Come to mention it, did anyone get a Xmas card from them this year?

Quote from: PixelBytes on January 04, 2015, 04:03
Some nice reading.  A raise would be nice since they are doing so good...

Come to mention it, did anyone get a Xmas card from them this year?

Not me. But I got a $28 DL the day after Xmas!!

No card this year.

Quote from: Shelma1 on January 04, 2015, 15:36
No card this year.

No card ever.

They send cards?

bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Quote from: shudderstok on January 04, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Well at least these guys selling our stuff and not just collect our media files to show off to their investors how big data base they have.
No point media files sitting on their servers even with 80% commission offered if there is nobody to buy it!

Companies that don't invest in sales operations and marketing seriously will never sell our stuff because buyers just don't care about 30% or 60% artist commission.

They want quality and professionalism. So for that reason SS IS THE WINNER here.

And... it's totally not realistic to expect high commission while running a serious company, with all expenses and pro employees involved.

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 18:54

Quote from: shudderstok on January 04, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Well at least these guys selling our stuff and not just collect our media files to show off to their investors how big data base they have.
No point media files sitting on their servers even with 80% commission offered if there is nobody to buy it!

Companies that don't invest in sales operations and marketing seriously will never sell our stuff because buyers just don't care about 30% or 60% artist commission.

They want quality and professionalism. So for that reason SS IS THE WINNER here.

And... it's totally not realistic to expect high commission while running a serious company, with all expenses and pro employees involved.

and the contributors and the industry ARE THE LOSER! 

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 19:16

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 18:54

Quote from: shudderstok on January 04, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Well at least these guys selling our stuff and not just collect our media files to show off to their investors how big data base they have.
No point media files sitting on their servers even with 80% commission offered if there is nobody to buy it!

Companies that don't invest in sales operations and marketing seriously will never sell our stuff because buyers just don't care about 30% or 60% artist commission.

They want quality and professionalism. So for that reason SS IS THE WINNER here.

And... it's totally not realistic to expect high commission while running a serious company, with all expenses and pro employees involved.

and the contributors and the industry ARE THE LOSER! 

If you have better ideas how to solve this, why not start a company?

All I am saying, we do earn nice $ with SS and must be some good reason why they sit on top of this Big 4 list.
Contributors are the winners too, otherwise not so many would submit their files to SS. :-)

Quote from: PixelBytes on January 04, 2015, 04:03
Some nice reading.  A raise would be nice since they are doing so good...

Come to mention it, did anyone get a Xmas card from them this year?

hear hear 4 sure !!! yes a raise would be nice.

but u know me, i was big against ss during their mid year crisis with approval mood swing
but late in the year something did change and maybe the organizational makeup has been
to roll some heads and get ss back to shape. and it looks good so far in terms of reviews and sales.

I found this line particularly interesting "there are millions of files on Shutterstock that buyers will not find anywhere else". What does that remind y'all of?

(And I'd vote for a rise, too!)

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 19:25

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 19:16

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 18:54

Quote from: shudderstok on January 04, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Well at least these guys selling our stuff and not just collect our media files to show off to their investors how big data base they have.
No point media files sitting on their servers even with 80% commission offered if there is nobody to buy it!

Companies that don't invest in sales operations and marketing seriously will never sell our stuff because buyers just don't care about 30% or 60% artist commission.

They want quality and professionalism. So for that reason SS IS THE WINNER here.

And... it's totally not realistic to expect high commission while running a serious company, with all expenses and pro employees involved.

and the contributors and the industry ARE THE LOSER! 

If you have better ideas how to solve this, why not start a company?

All I am saying, we do earn nice $ with SS and must be some good reason why they sit on top of this Big 4 list.
Contributors are the winners too, otherwise not so many would submit their files to SS. :-)

here i must say i agree with ss. where else do u find regular sales? where else do u get 25,85, 105
USD for a single sale?  even if there is a site promising us 250 USD for sales and more % commission than shutterstock, 100% of nothing is nothing.
giving ss end of the year clean-up, i think i expect better things to come for contributors
.

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 04, 2015, 20:22
I found this line particularly interesting "there are millions of files on Shutterstock that buyers will not find anywhere else". What does that remind y'all of?

(And I'd vote for a rise, too!)

it just means more of us feel we waste energy upload elsewhere so we give to ss.
of course, we should vote for a raise. if the shareholders get fatter, we too should

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on January 04, 2015, 20:26

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on January 04, 2015, 20:22
I found this line particularly interesting "there are millions of files on Shutterstock that buyers will not find anywhere else". What does that remind y'all of?

(And I'd vote for a rise, too!)

it just means more of us feel we waste energy upload elsewhere so we give to ss.
of course, we should vote for a raise. if the shareholders get fatter, we too should

It seems to me that they are trying to trump the last fragment of sales strategy that iS uses.

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on January 04, 2015, 20:25

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 19:25

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 19:16

Quote from: SSArtist on January 04, 2015, 18:54

Quote from: shudderstok on January 04, 2015, 17:48

Quote from: Holmes on January 04, 2015, 17:34
bravo? for ensuring the success of absurd  commissions in micro stock markets for eternity?

exactly!!! and also for bringing the valuation of RF imagery to an all time low. it's rather sickening when one really thinks about it.

Well at least these guys selling our stuff and not just collect our media files to show off to their investors how big data base they have.
No point media files sitting on their servers even with 80% commission offered if there is nobody to buy it!

Companies that don't invest in sales operations and marketing seriously will never sell our stuff because buyers just don't care about 30% or 60% artist commission.

They want quality and professionalism. So for that reason SS IS THE WINNER here.

And... it's totally not realistic to expect high commission while running a serious company, with all expenses and pro employees involved.

and the contributors and the industry ARE THE LOSER! 

If you have better ideas how to solve this, why not start a company?

All I am saying, we do earn nice $ with SS and must be some good reason why they sit on top of this Big 4 list.
Contributors are the winners too, otherwise not so many would submit their files to SS. :-)

here i must say i agree with ss. where else do u find regular sales? where else do u get 25,85, 105
USD for a single sale?  even if there is a site promising us 250 USD for sales and more % commission than shutterstock, 100% of nothing is nothing.
giving ss end of the year clean-up, i think i expect better things to come for contributors
.

+1
....well said, seriously .... 100% of nothing is nothing!

As microstocks go, i believe SS is one of the better companies. But really, overall, 38  cents for an image is nowhere near what i consider a "high commission".

Yea, a raise would be very welcome if things are going so well for them. But why would they?

Quote from: Noedelhap on January 05, 2015, 00:24
Yea, a raise would be very welcome if things are going so well for them. But why would they?

Colin, this brings up a good point. I think sometime ago there was a thread on this but I can't find it. But to my bolded statement, what would be a good raise?

I think if you have made SS like $20k, .40 cents, $30k, .45 and $40k, .50 on sub sales.  I also believe that they should do something similar on OD sales.

$20k 2.85=$3.25
$30k 2.85=$3.50
$40k 2.85=$3.75

Something like that. Obviously more is better, but I tried to be realistic with the fact that

1. now that they are publicly traded we will probably never see a raise
2. If they did give us a raise it would probably be no more than what I stated, but I could be wrong....it's all a guess.

I bet everyone involved in this business with SS would ask for a raise: contributors, employees, contractors, Oringer's cleaner...

Why don't we all ask for money from FaceBook, Whatsup, Twitter, Instagram...as we all helped their success at the end of the day?

But sometimes just being grateful for people who really helped us earn some money might be good, no? :-)

As I said before, if somebody knows solution to the complex operations of a stock agency to make everyone happy, please step forward and open one asap.

p.s. of course, I am all for a raise!

+1 for a tiered raise. They could even balance their books books by offering a staggered system like IS used to have back in the good old pre-Getty days. That way there's motivation for trying to increase sales there and give them your best contents.

Quote from: SSArtist on January 05, 2015, 10:56
I bet everyone involved in this business with SS would ask for a raise: contributors, employees, contractors, Oringer's cleaner...

Why don't we all ask for money from FaceBook, Whatsup, Twitter, Instagram...as we all helped their success at the end of the day?

I use Facebook to stay in touch with friends and family, I use WhatsApp to chat with people, I use Twitter to promote my site, I use Instagram to showcase images. I use Shutterstock to SELL my intellectual property of which they take 75-70%. Big diff.

Quote from: Semmick Photo on January 05, 2015, 19:21

Quote from: SSArtist on January 05, 2015, 10:56
I bet everyone involved in this business with SS would ask for a raise: contributors, employees, contractors, Oringer's cleaner...

Why don't we all ask for money from FaceBook, Whatsup, Twitter, Instagram...as we all helped their success at the end of the day?

I use Facebook to stay in touch with friends and family, I use WhatsApp to chat with people, I use Twitter to promote my site, I use Instagram to showcase images. I use Shutterstock to SELL my intellectual property of which they take 75-70%. Big diff.

Hey, You don't need to use SS...It's purely your choice. 

Out of all agencies out there, I think these guys are not bad...and they appear the best sellers (because they put effort in it). They are not cheating and promising more than they say.
Our files are NOT just sitting on their servers forever like with other agencies (who promise more %), which I personally call a scam.

SS is actively selling our media files and probably with operational costs can not afford to pay us more. It's capitalism! AND Yes, it sucks!


p.s. +1 for a tiered raise.