Quote from: Shelma1 on October 15, 2015, 00:39
So far this year, 13 toddlers in the U.S. have killed themselves with a gun. Someone is shot by a toddler here once a week on average.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

Proof of bad parenting.
Far less incidents than other house dangers nobody asks to be banned.

Quote from: fujiko on October 15, 2015, 00:47

Quote from: Shelma1 on October 15, 2015, 00:39
So far this year, 13 toddlers in the U.S. have killed themselves with a gun. Someone is shot by a toddler here once a week on average.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

Proof of bad parenting.
Far less incidents than other house dangers nobody asks to be banned.

Proof of very bad choices made by adults, and in most cases the parents, however they now have to live with the fact that this has happened along with any civil or criminal consequences. 

We will NEVER be able to stop all accidents or incidents that will take a life and the more people that are in our population, the more the numbers can and will rise.  We will always have people that will make bad choices with any items out there be it a firearm, motor vehicle, edged tool, drugs or common sense decisions.  None of us have been given a guarantee of how long we will live or how short that will be.  I suggest we do the best to make life the best we can for all people, both us and others around us but do that without infringing on their freedoms.  It was what the United States was founded on.

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it.  Voltaire.

Here is one of the many compilations about "responsible gun owners":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzTGlSp0oB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwEyBItsXkw

For gun lovers: no, it's not an NRA commercial!

Quote from: fujiko on October 15, 2015, 00:47

Quote from: Shelma1 on October 15, 2015, 00:39
So far this year, 13 toddlers in the U.S. have killed themselves with a gun. Someone is shot by a toddler here once a week on average.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

Proof of bad parenting.
Far less incidents than other house dangers nobody asks to be banned.

Jail people when their guns are used in a crime or accidental shooting. Jail people who buy guns for criminals who aren't allowed to buy a gun. Stop people with metal health issues from legally getting a gun.

Don't complain that too many people of some group or class are in jail. They are the people who don't follow the laws and are repeat offenders.

But don't take away guns from people who are careful, don't use them for crime and are living within the law. Most criminals do not use legal or licensed guns.

The gun incidents here get sadder every day. Four year old girl shot in the head in a road rage incident. I'm more and more in favor of confiscating all privately owned guns and melting them down. Use them to make a monument to the hundreds of thousands of people killed here by guns. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/21/4-year-old-girl-dead-after-albuquerque-road-rage-shooting/

Quote from: Shelma1 on October 21, 2015, 18:24
The gun incidents here get sadder every day. Four year old girl shot in the head in a road rage incident. I'm more and more in favor of confiscating all privately owned guns and melting them down. Use them to make a monument to the hundreds of thousands of people killed here by guns. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/21/4-year-old-girl-dead-after-albuquerque-road-rage-shooting/

lets take away cars too because of drunk drivers....

So, we take guns away from law abiding people and only the bad guys will have them. I know that is cliche but how do you keep illegal guns out of the US with Mexico to the south.

Why not have tougher laws or better yet uphold the laws we have and hold people responsible.

Mexico gets its guns from us.

Quote from: Shelma1 on October 21, 2015, 18:24
The gun incidents here get sadder every day. Four year old girl shot in the head in a road rage incident.

Don't forget the 6-year-old boy in Illiinois who shot his toddler brother to death a few days ago while playing cops 'n robbers with their daddy's gun.

Wonder if the toddler even knew what kind of lethal game he was playing?

FWIW, that shooting of the 4-year-old girl in Albuquerque today happened less than 1 hour from where I live in Santa Fe. My husband and I travel that stretch of I-40 all the time.

But one thing we don't do is engage in foolish games of "chicken" with other drivers. Not in wild-west New Mexico, and not anywhere else.

Reading more about it, it appears the dead girl's father was at least partially to blame... and ****he had two children in the back seat*** as he was dodgin' and weavin' and cuttin' the other driver off for the last 2 miles before the shooting happened.

The mind boggles.

The dad was totally in the wrong. But without the gun, this probably would have escalated into a shouting match, not the murder of a four-year-old girl. That's the problem with guns. It's much too easy to get angry and just kill someone.

Gift of multiculturalism to Sweden - no guns required for mass killings.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/sweden-student-wearing-a-mask-and-a-sword-stabbs-teacher-and-student-to-death-three-injured/

Quote from: Nikovsk on October 22, 2015, 16:17
Gift of multiculturalism to Sweden - no guns required for mass killings.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/sweden-student-wearing-a-mask-and-a-sword-stabbs-teacher-and-student-to-death-three-injured/

Does Two = Mass? Tragic as it is for those individuals. Do you think if this person had got hold of a gun there would be more or less deaths. I seem to recall someone blathering that killings not involving guns wouldn't get the same coverage well this is no 1 on BBC website.

Quote from: Nikovsk on October 22, 2015, 16:17
Gift of multiculturalism to Sweden - no guns required for mass killings.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/sweden-student-wearing-a-mask-and-a-sword-stabbs-teacher-and-student-to-death-three-injured/

You really have a muslim/xenophobia issue. So sad!