I got the PFO letter too.

Quote from: Mantis on December 24, 2016, 15:31
Just curious if anyone has been told their portfolio doesn't cut it at Envanto and had their accounts closed. I only make about $30 a month there and expect that email, but haven't received it yet. Just wondering if the culling has started yet.

Yes I am out also finally out today (I ask about that in Jan 2016)  but you know how slow is this company, I can not send Thank You note to

James Giroux
Author Development Lead
Envato

because I can not find e-mail contact only phone or mail maybe this communication problem is bad for company also.Thank You Envanto team and good luck I am fine with SS, Fotolia and DT and couple other leaders in this business.I am not missing you for sure

I wonder if it's coincidence that I decided to close my account and had withdrawn my measly $6.84 and I get the email today.  And they aren't going to pay me until Mar 15th.

Good riddance.

QuoteIf you are interested in selling with PhotoDune and Elements in the future, you'll always be welcome to reapply when we reopen applications to the public (we hope you do).

Quote from: Mantis on December 24, 2016, 15:31
Just curious if anyone has been told their portfolio doesn't cut it at Envanto and had their accounts closed. I only make about $30 a month there and expect that email, but haven't received it yet. Just wondering if the culling has started yet.

You're good.. I make 50 dollars monthly and got terminated.

Hmm - looks like I actually had $72 over there in my account (I don't log in there much anymore).   I applied to withdraw it all, hopefully that will process soon.   

You know it is kind of funny that I joined this site to see if I could "Stop some Complaining" and today I got FIRED by Envato- talk about Karma hitting me in the balls! Now I fully understand why there are so many folks complaining.  So I will leave before I say something nasty about Envato- spilling more blood will just not help out the sad situation.

Good luck and hopefully someday things will more positive for all of us...

Wow! For a rock bottom tier (for photos) agency, they really have big ideas about themselves

I'm sure I would have been booted too except that I left when they reworked their tax approach as I did not want to add any complexity to my tax situation for such a low payout (yes, I do pay all my taxes on all my income)

The idea that anyone would reapply (unless they started selling like Adobe/FT or SS) after being booted out is pretty silly IMO

I just got the e-mail too.  I only had a couple hundred online there and stopped uploading years ago due to low sales.  Was planning to get rid of them after last week when they sent a tax statement with a lot more than I ever earned there - will have to go through all past sales and record their weird fees to deduct from earnings to complete my taxes.  They are the only agency to do that so being rid of them will make life easier.  Have about a $70 balance so just hope they pay it all out.

Looks like they are trying to become the next Stocksy or Offset.  Good luck to them, and good riddance!

Quote from: fotoroad on February 07, 2017, 00:52
Yes I am out also finally out today (I ask about that in Jan 2016)  but you know how slow is this company, I can not send Thank You note to

James Giroux
Author Development Lead
Envato

because I can not find e-mail contact only phone or mail

I have an account here at Microstock and do read all your comments. I specifically pointed email recipients to our forum post because responding to authors via email would not have been scaleable.

If you have any questions about the process or next steps, please feel free to ask them on the forum post.

A lot of the comments here are around low earnings, and that is part of the reason we're working to transform PhotoDune. Library growth has consistently outstripped sales growth, and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale. All of this despite an ever-increasing stream of customers we know frequently use photos in their projects.

Our updated quality and commercial demand guidelines are more detailed than before, so it's clear what we're evaluating and, based on our data, what we believe customers are looking to buy.

Some authors haven't posted new content in several years, other items while meeting previous guidelines if reviewed again would likely not pass. Some authors were posting the same image with small variations or in a sequence. These actions filled up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library.

Sales on other marketplaces didn't factor into our decision-making. For Envato, what we're aiming for is a sustainable library of photos that gives customers a genuine choice and provides more opportunities for authors to earn.

As far as balances go, at the moment we're finalizing amounts owed and preparing our systems for a final payout. As the forum post says, for anyone with balances under the minimum threshold who sold on PhotoDune exclusively, you'll be sent an email with the final balance and our finance department will send you a payout.

Exact timelines are still being worked out for this last part but it's not going to take long.

Again, if you have questions about the process, please feel free to ask them on the Envato forum post.

Quote from: jamesgiroux on February 07, 2017, 03:34

I have an account here at Microstock and do read all your comments. I specifically pointed email recipients to our forum post because responding to authors via email would not have been scaleable.

If you have any questions about the process or next steps, please feel free to ask them on the forum post.

A lot of the comments here are around low earnings, and that is part of the reason we're working to transform PhotoDune. Library growth has consistently outstripped sales growth, and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale. All of this despite an ever-increasing stream of customers we know frequently use photos in their projects.

Our updated quality and commercial demand guidelines are more detailed than before, so it's clear what we're evaluating and, based on our data, what we believe customers are looking to buy.

Some authors haven't posted new content in several years, other items while meeting previous guidelines if reviewed again would likely not pass. Some authors were posting the same image with small variations or in a sequence. These actions filled up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library.

Sales on other marketplaces didn't factor into our decision-making. For Envato, what we're aiming for is a sustainable library of photos that gives customers a genuine choice and provides more opportunities for authors to earn.

As far as balances go, at the moment we're finalizing amounts owed and preparing our systems for a final payout. As the forum post says, for anyone with balances under the minimum threshold who sold on PhotoDune exclusively, you'll be sent an email with the final balance and our finance department will send you a payout.

Exact timelines are still being worked out for this last part but it's not going to take long.

Again, if you have questions about the process, please feel free to ask them on the Envato forum post.

Summary: Sales at PhotoDune are so low lately that no one will earn anything unless we remove 99% of portfolios. Reviews are so meaningless and random that people tried to upload everything, before giving up.

Quote from: outoftheblue on February 07, 2017, 07:10

Quote from: jamesgiroux on February 07, 2017, 03:34

I have an account here at Microstock and do read all your comments. I specifically pointed email recipients to our forum post because responding to authors via email would not have been scaleable.

If you have any questions about the process or next steps, please feel free to ask them on the forum post.

A lot of the comments here are around low earnings, and that is part of the reason we're working to transform PhotoDune. Library growth has consistently outstripped sales growth, and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale. All of this despite an ever-increasing stream of customers we know frequently use photos in their projects.

Our updated quality and commercial demand guidelines are more detailed than before, so it's clear what we're evaluating and, based on our data, what we believe customers are looking to buy.

Some authors haven't posted new content in several years, other items while meeting previous guidelines if reviewed again would likely not pass. Some authors were posting the same image with small variations or in a sequence. These actions filled up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library.

Sales on other marketplaces didn't factor into our decision-making. For Envato, what we're aiming for is a sustainable library of photos that gives customers a genuine choice and provides more opportunities for authors to earn.

As far as balances go, at the moment we're finalizing amounts owed and preparing our systems for a final payout. As the forum post says, for anyone with balances under the minimum threshold who sold on PhotoDune exclusively, you'll be sent an email with the final balance and our finance department will send you a payout.

Exact timelines are still being worked out for this last part but it's not going to take long.

Again, if you have questions about the process, please feel free to ask them on the Envato forum post.

Summary: Sales at PhotoDune are so low lately that no one will earn anything unless we remove 99% of portfolios. Reviews are so meaningless and random that people tried to upload everything, before giving up.

« and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale »
But these have mane many sales on other sites. So, excuse me, but if they have not made a sale on Photodune it is probably because Photodune is not able (not good enough) to sell them...

Quote from: jamesgiroux on February 07, 2017, 03:34

Quote from: fotoroad on February 07, 2017, 00:52
Yes I am out also finally out today (I ask about that in Jan 2016)  but you know how slow is this company, I can not send Thank You note to

James Giroux
Author Development Lead
Envato

because I can not find e-mail contact only phone or mail

I have an account here at Microstock and do read all your comments. I specifically pointed email recipients to our forum post because responding to authors via email would not have been scaleable.

If you have any questions about the process or next steps, please feel free to ask them on the forum post.

A lot of the comments here are around low earnings, and that is part of the reason we're working to transform PhotoDune. Library growth has consistently outstripped sales growth, and an increasing number of items (and authors) have never made a sale. All of this despite an ever-increasing stream of customers we know frequently use photos in their projects.

Our updated quality and commercial demand guidelines are more detailed than before, so it's clear what we're evaluating and, based on our data, what we believe customers are looking to buy.

Some authors haven't posted new content in several years, other items while meeting previous guidelines if reviewed again would likely not pass. Some authors were posting the same image with small variations or in a sequence. These actions filled up the library without providing true choice to customers and lowering the overall quality of the library.

Sales on other marketplaces didn't factor into our decision-making. For Envato, what we're aiming for is a sustainable library of photos that gives customers a genuine choice and provides more opportunities for authors to earn.

As far as balances go, at the moment we're finalizing amounts owed and preparing our systems for a final payout. As the forum post says, for anyone with balances under the minimum threshold who sold on PhotoDune exclusively, you'll be sent an email with the final balance and our finance department will send you a payout.

Exact timelines are still being worked out for this last part but it's not going to take long.

Again, if you have questions about the process, please feel free to ask them on the Envato forum post.

We are out too and it's quite excusable with just couple of sales or so...

James, it is some really bad thing Envato just did to all those people who posted above. It's just something like a lazy and crazy African dictator does. Why search for a criminal in village? Let's burn down the whole village. It's too obvious those hardworking people really HAVE a lot of very good sellers on Photodune. In fact all of them could make up a nice new stock site selling like Stocksy or so. They spent a lot of their precious time to learn, shoot, process and upload their items and went through not the fastest upload process of Photodune. They sold photos for Envato salaries and their own bills. And they trusted you. Just believe me they won't come to your Envato forum to discuss their termination. You know it's quite strange for an artist to talk something like that: "I know you've just told me my work is crap but please let me stay!" Let other people there enjoy discussing new forum threads in Russian or Spanish or just brag about some new fancy icon.

Got the FON email. Why on earth would I want to reapply ? There is no way I can spend time uploading to a site that just chucked countless hours of my time in the bin. Especially when the returns spending my time elsewhere are 20-25 times greater.

Disappointing, however I can't see how removing everybody's content that is selling will help. You could have chucked out the content that hadn't sold in 12 months out and had a restricted upload limit related to a contributors approval rate from now.

Taking the majority of sale price then shafting the suppliers seems like a strange move to me. Hang on ! That's microstocks number one playbook !

Please post if you do get accepted

When they will realize how silly is they decision, it will be too late.
That said, I am Emerald level on Fotolia, Gold level on Istock, top level on Shutterstock, diamond level on Turbosquid, but not good enough for them...

I'm out too...

Well I was retained for some reason but they emailed to say they are to delete over 75% of my portfolio.

I'll get to payout never so I'll save them the trouble and just delete the rest.

Eitherway I'll not upload any more to this outfit it's just not worth the hassle for a few bucks a month

booted too, thousands of images,

the thing that annoys me most is the arrogance of Mr. James, bigshot CEO, sending out a canned email to all contributors with the same reasons for elimination and then write a big forum post telling everyone discussion is not possible.

admin edit: threats / attacks removed.

Received my email yesterday, it seems they didn't like any of the three photos from my portfolio there, such a shame.

Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk

Quote from: qunamax on February 07, 2017, 08:38
Received my email yesterday, it seems they didn't like any of the three photos from my portfolio there, such a shame.

Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk

Hope that careless reviewer will be penalized

Quote from: Irina Anosova on February 07, 2017, 08:43

Quote from: qunamax on February 07, 2017, 08:38
Received my email yesterday, it seems they didn't like any of the three photos from my portfolio there, such a shame.

Sent from my SM-J510FN using Tapatalk

Hope that careless reviewer will be penalized

I hope he receives the email too

Im out as well, no surprise here.
I didn't upload for years, because their rejections were ridiculous from the start and returns were too small.

Actually I'm happy they will boot me, because as I understand they will force everyone into their "elements" plan, which means unlimited downloads for something like $49 / month. I would have left them about that anyway.

So that's what they want: highest quality and then give it away for next to nothing.
We can just hope that they die quickly.

No email yet the put me on the naughty step long ago perhaps they wont bother...I'm shocked at some of you who have been booted you do top quality stuff. Just wrong

I'm out too!
Top 100 author, Top 20 Author of the Month, Trendsetter and Weekly Top Seller...
I don't care much about their badges. But that's an indicator of High Commercial Value images...
They will never be like Stocksy with mostly non-exclusive content sold for lower prices everywhere in the world!

I just got the boot too. No great loss. I had my own hand hovering over the delete button in any case as a result of their dodgy tax practices. Wish I'd have pushed the button before them - but hey ho...