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Started by Pauws99, March 21, 2017, 08:19

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Pauws99

Alamy....Anyone had any sales on this...what kind of returns are you getting?

shiyali

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 21, 2017, 08:19
Alamy....Anyone had any sales on this...what kind of returns are you getting?

I uploaded a bunch but no sales yet. Might take a while.

Pauws99

Quote from: shiyali on March 21, 2017, 09:09
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 21, 2017, 08:19
Alamy....Anyone had any sales on this...what kind of returns are you getting?

I uploaded a bunch but no sales yet. Might take a while.
Me too sales on Alamy seem to have the gestation period of an elephant ..getting a few zooms so optimistic (no so much what I might earn though)

Lana

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 21, 2017, 09:15
Quote from: shiyali on March 21, 2017, 09:09
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 21, 2017, 08:19
Alamy....Anyone had any sales on this...what kind of returns are you getting?

I uploaded a bunch but no sales yet. Might take a while.
Me too sales on Alamy seem to have the gestation period of an elephant ..getting a few zooms so optimistic (no so much what I might earn though)

That's so true ;D 13 months between my 1st and 2nd sale (although it's more like a giraffe)
My balance is 43$ so another year and i'm getting my payout ;)

Brasilnut

Editorial royalty-free   Country: Worldwide
Usage: Commercial electronic, Websites, apps, social media and blogs (excludes advertising). Worldwide for 5 years.
Media: Website, app and social media
126 MB
8837 x 4971 pixels
5 MB compressed
Image Size: Any size
Start: 08 March 2017
End: 08 March 2022
$ 36.18

Pauws99

Quote from: Brasilnut on March 21, 2017, 11:06
Editorial royalty-free   Country: Worldwide
Usage: Commercial electronic, Websites, apps, social media and blogs (excludes advertising). Worldwide for 5 years.
Media: Website, app and social media
126 MB
8837 x 4971 pixels
5 MB compressed
Image Size: Any size
Start: 08 March 2017
End: 08 March 2022
$ 36.18
Very nice for RF is that what you got or did they knock their 50% off

Brasilnut

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QuoteVery nice for RF is that what you got or did they knock their 50% off

Yup, that's gross, so half of that goes into my pocket.

Brasilnut

If anybody is curious which was the image :)

sgoodwin4813

Any updates?  Are you selling much RF editorial on Alamy?  I have a fair amount of editorial on the micros and am thinking about uploading them RF editorial to Alamy but want to make sure it's worth the effort.  Kind of annoying that you have to go and designate them as editorial after uploading.  Are your RF editorial sales there comparable to regular RF or RM sales?

Brasilnut

QuoteAny updates?  Are you selling much RF editorial on Alamy?  I have a fair amount of editorial on the micros and am thinking about uploading them RF editorial to Alamy but want to make sure it's worth the effort.  Kind of annoying that you have to go and designate them as editorial after uploading.  Are your RF editorial sales there comparable to regular RF or RM sales?

Alamy is so unpredictable.

I look at Alamy like buying multiple lottery tickets...most of the time the ticket will be worthless but soon (?) enough you'll find a ticket that would be worth a lot...then back to same old waiting and frustration. Sales on there for me have ranged from $5 to $250 (gross).

Alamy is editorially-based so it makes sense to upload all your editorials on there.

Not much difference between RF and RM in terms of sale values on there. The future of stock is RF in any case since that's what most buyers prefer (old-timers on the Alamy forum would disagree though as many refuse to license as RF).

sgoodwin4813

Yes, always very variable at Alamy.  I guess the only way to know for sure is to upload a few hundred and wait six months or a year to see what happens - I was just wondering if others had been getting sales of editorial since that is new.  My last couple of batches there passed QC in a few hours (all regular RF) so I guess it won't take long to test if I submit some editorial.  Will give it a try and see how it goes.

dpimborough

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Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on November 03, 2017, 01:30
Yes, always very variable at Alamy.  I guess the only way to know for sure is to upload a few hundred and wait six months or a year to see what happens - I was just wondering if others had been getting sales of editorial since that is new.  My last couple of batches there passed QC in a few hours (all regular RF) so I guess it won't take long to test if I submit some editorial.  Will give it a try and see how it goes.

I've had RF editorial sales as well as normal RF sales.

One RF editorial sold within a week of being put up for sale.

Dodie

I am with Alamy from July 2016 with 750 files, I had some small sales $5.33; $3.44 ... a piece but they all were distribution sales, meaning that A & distributor get 70% and 30% (&1.5) is my cut.
This month I got my first bigger sale, $28.41 sold by A, 50%-50% cut.

What I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Brasilnut

QuoteWhat I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Yea that's annoying.

Alamy bend over backwards to please their clients, I suppose that's how they remain competitive.

dpimborough

Quote from: Brasilnut on November 07, 2017, 15:42
QuoteWhat I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Yea that's annoying.

Alamy bend over backwards to please their clients, I suppose that's how they remain competitive.

Its because Alamy provide extended credit terms to certain clients like newspapers and magazines.

That is normal in the world of industry and commerce.

Dodie

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on November 07, 2017, 16:28
Quote from: Brasilnut on November 07, 2017, 15:42
QuoteWhat I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Yea that's annoying.

Alamy bend over backwards to please their clients, I suppose that's how they remain competitive.

Its because Alamy provide extended credit terms to certain clients like newspapers and magazines.

That is normal in the world of industry and commerce.
How much is this credit extended? Is there a timeframe (limit) for payment with these clients?

ShadySue

Quote from: Dodie on November 07, 2017, 22:22
Quote from: Sammy the Cat on November 07, 2017, 16:28
Quote from: Brasilnut on November 07, 2017, 15:42
QuoteWhat I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Yea that's annoying.

Alamy bend over backwards to please their clients, I suppose that's how they remain competitive.

Its because Alamy provide extended credit terms to certain clients like newspapers and magazines.

That is normal in the world of industry and commerce.
How much is this credit extended? Is there a timeframe (limit) for payment with these clients?
I send Alamy a polite enquiry after six months, if it hasn't been cleared.
Distributor sales in particular can take a long time to clear, if the client has a timeframe with the distributor, and the distributor has a timeframe with Alamy.

dpimborough

Quote from: Dodie on November 07, 2017, 22:22
Quote from: Sammy the Cat on November 07, 2017, 16:28
Quote from: Brasilnut on November 07, 2017, 15:42
QuoteWhat I don't like is that you have to wait so much for the payment (from buyer). I have files downloaded in May and still not payed for.

Yea that's annoying.

Alamy bend over backwards to please their clients, I suppose that's how they remain competitive.

Its because Alamy provide extended credit terms to certain clients like newspapers and magazines.

That is normal in the world of industry and commerce.
How much is this credit extended? Is there a timeframe (limit) for payment with these clients?

I checked with them a year ago and was advised that companies like the BBC and newspapers get 3 month payment terms

Though I have one used by Conde Nast magazine that been hanging round for 6 months :(


sgoodwin4813

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on November 03, 2017, 06:08
I've had RF editorial sales as well as normal RF sales.

One RF editorial sold within a week of being put up for sale.

Thanks for the info - I appreciate it.  I'm starting to put my RF editorial images there and will hope for the best.  And congratulations on your sales!

Dodie

Thank you ShadySue and Sammy for your answer.

Six month you say. For my image downloaded in May, this is the 7th month. I'll wait till the end of the month and then I think I should contact Alamy.

Thanks again.

Brasilnut

QuoteI'll wait till the end of the month and then I think I should contact Alamy.

I must say that Alamy have the best customer service I've encountered. They'll help you out.

Dodie

Quote from: Brasilnut on November 08, 2017, 17:05
QuoteI'll wait till the end of the month and then I think I should contact Alamy.

I must say that Alamy have the best customer service I've encountered. They'll help you out.
Thanks.

ShadySue

I should have explained that I wait six months if a file has been notified but not paid.
If there's an in-use which hasn't shown up, I email much sooner than that. A probable abuse (like a pic in an apparently-reputable US newspaper with an Alamy watermark, which hadn't been reported), I report immediately.

Dodie

Quote from: ShadySue on November 09, 2017, 09:43
I should have explained that I wait six months if a file has been notified but not paid.
If there's an in-use which hasn't shown up, I email much sooner than that. A probable abuse (like a pic in an apparently-reputable US newspaper with an Alamy watermark, which hadn't been reported), I report immediately.
Thanks ShadySue.

Would you please tell me what does it mean when a file is notified? Sorry, I am still not used to A unique wording and navigation. Is that something I can check?

The file mentioned is on other agencies too, it has many downloads showing up on sites in all languages, from Spanish to Chinese (including Pinterest), so there is no way to know where was it downloaded from.

ShadySue

Quote from: Dodie on November 09, 2017, 19:27
Quote from: ShadySue on November 09, 2017, 09:43
I should have explained that I wait six months if a file has been notified but not paid.
If there's an in-use which hasn't shown up, I email much sooner than that. A probable abuse (like a pic in an apparently-reputable US newspaper with an Alamy watermark, which hadn't been reported), I report immediately.
Thanks ShadySue.

Would you please tell me what does it mean when a file is notified? Sorry, I am still not used to A unique wording and navigation. Is that something I can check?

The file mentioned is on other agencies too, it has many downloads showing up on sites in all languages, from Spanish to Chinese (including Pinterest), so there is no way to know where was it downloaded from.

From your dashboard, check 'Sales History' and that lets you know when the buyer notified Alamy of a sale.
From your dashboard, check 'Account Balance' and you can see whether a sale has been paid or not. That's where the big gap can come about. (Minimum 45 days, apparently)

However, if you don't know that the image was taken from Alamy, they won't be able to help you. My files there are all exclusive to Alamy (though they don't have to be, so long as RM files there would be RM elsewhere).