Quote from: Uncle Pete on March 02, 2020, 15:53
Just a note: March 1st 2020

Top Tier - Big 4
AdobeStock    59
Shutterstock    58.7

March 7th 2020

Shutterstock 64.1
AdobeStock 61.7

It looks like things are getting back to normal after Adobe's one week lead. No quick and permanent changes in the poll results after all.

Quote from: angelawaye on March 06, 2020, 17:16
Believe it or not I make more on 123rf then Adobe.

I use to buy photos on Adobe but they removed the credit system, forcing a subscription plan so I started buying from DT.

Not?  OK yes I believe you, that is unusual. Same images, same numbers? Don't leave 123RF!!!

I make more on SS than AS but the RPD is higher on AS, I'm just short about 4,000 images between the two and that's the difference. They will never be the same for me, unless Adobe starts taking Editorial. And unfortunately SS doesn't take my illustrations. Very different worlds for what I do.

Just an aside, the original Ripley's Believe it Or Not, newspaper cartoons, actually had questionable stories, they said... believe it or not, they didn't say what they wrote was factual. Or another way to say it, there was a nugget of truth in all of them.

Quote from: angelawaye on March 06, 2020, 17:16
Believe it or not I make more on 123rf then Adobe.

I use to buy photos on Adobe but they removed the credit system, forcing a subscription plan so I started buying from DT.

great, 123rf is very lazy in selling my work

I think we should start a petition for Adobe to start accepting editorial material. Now I think would be a great time for the that to happen. If a number of us express interest in supplying them with that type of material we might be able to get them to consider it more seriously.

Any thoughts?

QuoteAny thoughts?

a. if the accept they will be flooded with random snappers submitting whatever
b. they will not accept

Quote from: EIPHOTO on March 10, 2020, 23:22
I think we should start a petition for Adobe to start accepting editorial material. Now I think would be a great time for the that to happen. If a number of us express interest in supplying them with that type of material we might be able to get them to consider it more seriously.

Any thoughts?

I'm surprised they haven't already. Editorials present relatively minimal regulatory risks to agencies vs commercial.

They now accept illustrative editorial which is a good start.

Quote from: Brasilnut on March 11, 2020, 07:47

Quote from: EIPHOTO on March 10, 2020, 23:22
I think we should start a petition for Adobe to start accepting editorial material. Now I think would be a great time for the that to happen. If a number of us express interest in supplying them with that type of material we might be able to get them to consider it more seriously.

Any thoughts?

I'm surprised they haven't already. Editorials present relatively minimal regulatory risks to agencies vs commercial.

They now accept illustrative editorial which is a good start.

I have to wonder if they don't accept editorial from "regular contributors" because of deals they have with editorial suppliers

I haven't sold any new images in months, maybe even years at both agencies. Silly me I keep uploading though. I think I'm out of this business this year since I spend many hours, sometimes days on one image or clip and they are just not worth it. They never were with these low prices/sales/reviews anyway but these days they are far more of an annoyance. Most of the time even thinking about Microstock depresses me. I'm just not cut out for this. I don't see much difference between us and prostitutes (and not even the classy ones)
I'll feed them a few more to test the waters and be certain they do hide my work/sales and then it's bye bye.
I've told this to a fellow contributor a few days ago, the lowest an artist can sink is working with Microstock agencies and to be honest it never felt right from the start.
I also feel even during these difficult times they still like to play games, be it their reviewers or other staff and that is pretty disgraceful if you ask me.

Good luck people and be well!

Quote from: Snow on March 21, 2020, 10:13
I haven't sold any new images in months, maybe even years at both agencies. Silly me I keep uploading though. I think I'm out of this business this year since I spend many hours, sometimes days on one image or clip and they are just not worth it. They never were with these low prices/sales/reviews anyway but these days they are far more of an annoyance. Most of the time even thinking about Microstock depresses me. I'm just not cut out for this. I don't see much difference between us and prostitutes (and not even the classy ones)
I'll feed them a few more to test the waters and be certain they do hide my work/sales and then it's bye bye.
I've told this to a fellow contributor a few days ago, the lowest an artist can sink is working with Microstock agencies and to be honest it never felt right from the start.
I also feel even during these difficult times they still like to play games, be it their reviewers or other staff and that is pretty disgraceful if you ask me.

Good luck people and be well!

It could be your style of work is not the right fit for microstock, but is your work in demand anywhere else? What kind of images do you shoot or make?

Quote from: Snow on March 21, 2020, 10:13
I haven't sold any new images in months, maybe even years at both agencies. Silly me I keep uploading though. I think I'm out of this business this year since I spend many hours, sometimes days on one image or clip and they are just not worth it. They never were with these low prices/sales/reviews anyway but these days they are far more of an annoyance. Most of the time even thinking about Microstock depresses me. I'm just not cut out for this. I don't see much difference between us and prostitutes (and not even the classy ones)
I'll feed them a few more to test the waters and be certain they do hide my work/sales and then it's bye bye.
I've told this to a fellow contributor a few days ago, the lowest an artist can sink is working with Microstock agencies and to be honest it never felt right from the start.
I also feel even during these difficult times they still like to play games, be it their reviewers or other staff and that is pretty disgraceful if you ask me.

Good luck people and be well!

Perhaps you haven't worked in old fashioned tv-marketing that's why you believe this...

Quote from: georgep7 on March 21, 2020, 13:15

Quote from: Snow on March 21, 2020, 10:13
I haven't sold any new images in months, maybe even years at both agencies. Silly me I keep uploading though. I think I'm out of this business this year since I spend many hours, sometimes days on one image or clip and they are just not worth it. They never were with these low prices/sales/reviews anyway but these days they are far more of an annoyance. Most of the time even thinking about Microstock depresses me. I'm just not cut out for this. I don't see much difference between us and prostitutes (and not even the classy ones)
I'll feed them a few more to test the waters and be certain they do hide my work/sales and then it's bye bye.
I've told this to a fellow contributor a few days ago, the lowest an artist can sink is working with Microstock agencies and to be honest it never felt right from the start.
I also feel even during these difficult times they still like to play games, be it their reviewers or other staff and that is pretty disgraceful if you ask me.

Good luck people and be well!

Perhaps you haven't worked in old fashioned tv-marketing that's why you believe this...

Debt collections, or fast food would also come to mind?