Oh the irony!

I can remember receiving similar responses when new contributors jumped ship in mass from IS. Long term contributors were complaining about algorithm changes that gave preference to new contributors. SS understands this dynamic and takes full advantage of new contributor ego's!

Quote from: cobalt on May 31, 2020, 21:19
Look fake people with no portfolio are popping up on the SS forum telling us all we are worthless scum.

Now that will surely influence the producer community and make them go on their knees and back to uploading the ungrateful brats!

How dare we doubt SS! Everything they do, they do for us!

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100133-new-earnings-structure-for-contributors/page/100/


,, Im good with SS new earnings change, I trust Shutterstock that they had no other choice but to do it, I have zero respect for contributors trashing Shutterstock online, on social media and in this forum and I think everyone that does it should be banned for life from SS.

Show some respect for the guys that put in tons of work for you to have a platform to sell your work in times when it's heading straight to Unlimited free downloads, SS is doing it's best to provide good sales EVERY SINGLE DAY !

Chill ! The entire world is on its knees with all this Corona Virus and you go around shaming SS Calling to ban them ?

10 cents minimus per sub? Work hard, be original, explore and I guarantee you'll make 1 million sales a year. WORK HARD !  Work Harder !

90% of the negative comments here are from small lazy portfolios, SS Said in the email they want to reward hard working contributors and this is a great idea.

If you're here to make money, there is plenty! Plenty to make, Just put in the effort.

What other choice did SS have ? take a deep breath and think about it, look around, read the map and thank god every morning for SS.

People started posting financial reports (I read all of them when they come out) stating they have this much and that much, I wish SS will go back to the glory days of higher stock price, they deserve it, its an amazing platform with amazing people putting an amazing amount of hard work for you to be able to do what you love and get paid on time and run it like clock work. SHOW SOME RESPECT !

And for the love of god, the Levels are perfectly balanced, wanna go level 6? Do you want SS to create a level 7 just for you? WORK FOR IT !

I think SS should remove any account that also sell at these "unlimited" sites, that is giving SS a bad name.

Long live SHUTTERSTOCK, a fair, welcoming and professional company.

Shutterstock is doing the right thing for them and for US.



I don't work for SS (I wish I did, honestly).

I don't know anyone that works for SS.

I am a contributor just like you, Not a top contributor but not a small one.

"

😄

Quote from: everest on May 31, 2020, 19:37

What is for sure is that once an agency makes such moves with so much desdain for their contributors (such a drastic royalty reduction, only silence from their directive and support team, attacking directly contributors disabling portfolios,etc) only bad thing lie ahead in the future. Get out as soon as you can to minimize loses, pain and embarrasement to be part of a lousy company.

^^ This! ^^

My portfolio is mainly 3d animation and Illustration (200+ videos, 20 years of expirience in animation), and I can't accept to sell them for 5-10$, sometimes I need week to produce one animation and to see them taking 85% of money, I will simply stop selling there and try something else.
Shuttersock will probably decline without new quality content being added regularly.

Quote from: CHDigitalMedia on May 31, 2020, 09:20
Just be careful, even though you have taken your media off @shutterstock it is still searchable on @Google and the item can still be added to the SS cart. But you will not see the sale, SS take the sale you get nothing. This applies if you didn't opt out of licensing first so it may not apply to everyone. I terminated my account over two months ago when they showcased the new low video sub plan. This is my work on found on Google

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=Weeds+growing+through+concrete+ground+shot+background+stock+footage&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Weeds growing through concrete ground shot background stock footage. It can still be purchased on Shutterstock without any royalties going to me.

Just a heads up

You are right! This is insane. So even if I disable my port, SS can still collect money on my work via google ...

Quote from: angelawaye on May 31, 2020, 22:57

Quote from: CHDigitalMedia on May 31, 2020, 09:20
Just be careful, even though you have taken your media off @shutterstock it is still searchable on @Google and the item can still be added to the SS cart. But you will not see the sale, SS take the sale you get nothing. This applies if you didn't opt out of licensing first so it may not apply to everyone. I terminated my account over two months ago when they showcased the new low video sub plan. This is my work on found on Google

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=Weeds+growing+through+concrete+ground+shot+background+stock+footage&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Weeds growing through concrete ground shot background stock footage. It can still be purchased on Shutterstock without any royalties going to me.

Just a heads up

You are right! This is insane. So even if I disable my port, SS can still collect money on my work via google ...

How can this be legal??

That is something that deserves it's own investigation.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 31, 2020, 09:36
I wrote a blog post about this royalty cut so there is a collection of thoughts all together - things get very spread apart in long topics like this.

https://www.digitalbristles.com/shutterstock-bombshell-royalty-cut-june-1st/

The only thing left to decide is what time on Sunday to turn off my portfolio on Shutterstock

Your blog is great but the font is so bleak that readability is very bad. I personally couldn't read till the end for this reason, its just hard to read.

Quote from: TaxcoBoy on May 31, 2020, 23:55

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 31, 2020, 09:36
I wrote a blog post about this royalty cut so there is a collection of thoughts all together - things get very spread apart in long topics like this.

https://www.digitalbristles.com/shutterstock-bombshell-royalty-cut-june-1st/

The only thing left to decide is what time on Sunday to turn off my portfolio on Shutterstock

Your blog is great but the font is so bleak that readability is very bad. I personally couldn't read till the end for this reason, its just hard to read.

Sorry about that. I did a quick and dirty edit to make the text a much darker color, but I'll take a look at fixing that for the CSS when I get a few minutes to figure out what I did when I set that site up. Can't remember how anything was organized!

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Sorry about that. I did a quick and dirty edit to make the text a much darker color, but I'll take a look at fixing that for the CSS when I get a few minutes to figure out what I did when I set that site up. Can't remember how anything was organized!

You don't need to fiddle with CSS usually to achieve this, those settings should be available in your WordPress theme options.
I create websites on a daily basis, so if you need a bit of help, PM me.
Cheers!

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Quote from: cobalt on May 31, 2020, 21:19
Look fake people with no portfolio are popping up on the SS forum telling us all we are worthless scum.

Not a surprise, when this kicked off it was fairly clear they either paid for or told their offshore support centre to post positive play store app reviews to override the low scores.
Loads of people, all with geographically indian type names, none of which have reviewed anything else all started saying how amazing SS was to contribute to within a few hours.

Given anyone can submit to the forum - you just need an email address to register, dont need an SS buyer or contributor account, its not really a surprise.

This though looks depressing, but I am sure this was no blind decision.
There must be a plan for expansion. Yes, you do get lower price, but I think you will also get higher one in enhanced and single other.
All you need to achieve the higher level.

I think we'll need to wait and watch it. I am not removing any portfolio right now.

Quote from: CrFx on June 01, 2020, 07:32
This though looks depressing, but I am sure this was no blind decision.
There must be a plan for expansion. Yes, you do get lower price, but I think you will also get higher one in enhanced and single other.
All you need to achieve the higher level.

I think we'll need to wait and watch it. I am not removing any portfolio right now.

Yes, there is an expansion... of the managers' pockets. Just make a buyer account and see the prices for yourself. You will get 15% of that price, or maybe a bit more if you work you ass off. The plan is there, it's not a secret.

Quote from: zsooofija on June 01, 2020, 08:23

Quote from: CrFx on June 01, 2020, 07:32
This though looks depressing, but I am sure this was no blind decision.
There must be a plan for expansion. Yes, you do get lower price, but I think you will also get higher one in enhanced and single other.
All you need to achieve the higher level.

I think we'll need to wait and watch it. I am not removing any portfolio right now.

Yes, there is an expansion... of the managers' pockets. Just make a buyer account and see the prices for yourself. You will get 15% of that price, or maybe a bit more if you work you ass off. The plan is there, it's not a secret.

I'll rather say live at SS and respect your decision in it.
Let's be gentle with each other views.

So over on the Contributor Experience forum, some people are saying they've already had sales very recently. It's currently the early hours of the morning on June 1 in NY but so far, people are still receiving the old subscription rates. So the question is - what's going on with SS' new earnings system? Delayed? Change of plans? There's been no announcement.

Firstly the shutterstock day is only a few hours old. It works on eastern time.
Secondly, it'd be foolhardy to unroll something as hugely different to all of their systems at a time when all the staff are in bed.
I suspect they'll do this on a weekday when everybody is at work to fix the problems that inevitably come up.

Payments for example are ALWAYS initiated manually on the first working day Eastern time after the deadline.

They might be going by a different time zone. I don't expect them to walk this one back.

Now I'm confused

Starting today I would be at level 1 (15%) for videos so I already disabled that portfolio.

I am however currently at level 4 (30%) with images so keeping it online until January 2021.
I've already had more then a few $0,38 subs today but isn't that what it supposed to be? Even if they change subscription plans our cut at level 4 is still $0,38 per sub no?

What am I missing here?

Quote from: Snow on June 01, 2020, 10:19Even if they change subscription plans our cut at level 4 is still $0,38 per sub no?

What am I missing here?

The 350 and 700 image sub packs the level 4 cut works out a lot nearer 10 cents than 0.38.  SS have merely said it "wont be less than 10 cents" for new sub rates.

Quote from: gnirtS on June 01, 2020, 10:23

Quote from: Snow on June 01, 2020, 10:19Even if they change subscription plans our cut at level 4 is still $0,38 per sub no?

What am I missing here?

The 350 and 700 image sub packs the level 4 cut works out a lot nearer 10 cents than 0.38.  SS have merely said it "wont be less than 10 cents" for new sub rates.

Oh? if that should be the case then my Image portfolio is gone too.
With all these changes lately I didn't seem to pay enough attention this time and figured it was only the levels that mattered so being at level 4 (30%) got you the same rate at $0,38 per sub.

My apologies for misunderstanding guys, I'm a bit slow these days 

btw I see many contributors talking (almost complaining) about how they still get the same rates. It's as if they are begging for lower rates, very odd!
Maybe SS changed their mind but if people continue this then we will surely get them.
I'm going to lay back for a while, wait for SS next move and then take action. What I will not do is complain about getting the same rates

Again we're behaving like cattle getting in line ready to be milked. I'm signing off for now, take care peeps!

I cant work out why anyone is confused the rates havent changed when the SS day is less than 6 hours old and none of their staff have even turned up to work yet.

Quote from: Snow on June 01, 2020, 10:46
btw I see many contributors talking (almost complaining) about how they still get the same rates. It's as if they are begging for lower rates, very odd!
Maybe SS changed their mind but if people continue this then we will surely get them.
I'm going to lay back for a while, wait for SS next move and then take action. What I will not do is complain about getting the same rates

Again we're behaving like cattle getting in line ready to be milked. I'm signing off for now, take care peeps!

I don't see anyone complaining, just people being surprised or confused.

It's understandable that many people want to see their earnings with the new rates, becaue untill now, we can only speculate how much the change will affect our earnings. With all the different packages Shutterstock offers and also the aspect of different prices for packages in different countries (which no mod has addressed so far) and the fact that Shutterstock gave us absolutely no info about which packages make up what percentage of sales, we are kept pretty much in the dark. That's why many people want to see the lower rates. To finally understand what they can really expect. No one is asking or even begging for the new rates. We don't want them, but since we know they are coming, we want to finally understand them and their impact on our earnings.

And there is really absolutely no way Shutterstock changed their mind and just keeps it a secret, when the whole microstock world is turning into an angry mob against them and people are disabling their portfolios. If they, for whatever reason, changed their mind, they would have announced it the moment the decision was made. They are probably all just still sleeping at this time and the change was not set to be implemented automatically.

Quote from: Firn on June 01, 2020, 11:49

Quote from: Snow on June 01, 2020, 10:46
btw I see many contributors talking (almost complaining) about how they still get the same rates. It's as if they are begging for lower rates, very odd!
Maybe SS changed their mind but if people continue this then we will surely get them.
I'm going to lay back for a while, wait for SS next move and then take action. What I will not do is complain about getting the same rates

Again we're behaving like cattle getting in line ready to be milked. I'm signing off for now, take care peeps!

I don't see anyone complaining, just people being surprised or confused.

It's understandable that many people want to see their earnings with the new rates, becaue untill now, we can only speculate how much the change will affect our earnings. With all the different packages Shutterstock offers and also the aspect of different prices for packages in different countries (which no mod has addressed so far) and the fact that Shutterstock gave us absolutely no info about which packages make up what percentage of sales, we are kept pretty much in the dark. That's why many people want to see the lower rates. To finally understand what they can really expect. No one is asking or even begging for the new rates. We don't want them, but since we know they are coming, we want to finally understand them and their impact on our earnings.

And there is really absolutely no way Shutterstock changed their mind and just keeps it a secret, when the whole microstock world is turning into an angry mob against them and people are disabling their portfolios. If they, for whatever reason, changed their mind, they would have announced it the moment the decision was made. They are probably all just still sleeping at this time and the change was not set to be implemented automatically.

Alright good points Firn, thanks for clearing that up.

Quote from: Snow on May 31, 2020, 13:48
To be honest I would not like to be in their shoes.
Let's just say there are certain individuals out there that are capable of crippling a whole organisation should they wish to do so.
Of course if SS goes down we all go down but then buyers will definitely have to move don't they.
I think SS has forgotten the internet is a 2-way street so good luck with all those pissed off Russians!

Speaking of which, is there anyone here who has access to a Russian microstock forum and knows how to make contact with the Russian contributor base? If we can overcome the language barrier we might be able to unite our actions.

only the petition has been listed in the micrstock.ru
i tried to open a subject but i cannot, i'm not authorized to do so

edited:
Sorry my previous info was not correct, there is live discussion going on about the new royalty scheme in the forum.

Best