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SS sales January

Started by PZF, January 27, 2021, 15:27

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BalkanskiMacak

So, here's the final comparison to January 2020:
Revenue: -41%
Sales: -2.64%

So, as I sometimes say, this month was un dolor anal.

Actually, I'm much more preoccupied at the decrease in sales than at the decrease in revenue: my portfolio is significantly bigger than in January 2020, but the number of sales is lower. I'm still extremely upset at the revenue decrease, but I can expect things to get better be less bad in the upcoming weeks thanks to the season and the sales levels.

One positive thing: I got an increase of sales and revenue (+5.5%) on SOD and Singles compared to last January. Both in 2020 and in 2021, I didn't get any outstanding sale in this column (the highest one was below $4 in both cases), so it means there's still something growing out of there.

With the new scheme, I had actually previously noticed that , while my subs were getting murdered, the Singles, Other and SOD were stable, or were even getting better. It's hard to say, however, if this comes from the new system, or if it's due to my strategy: I'm mainly editorial, and I'm focusing more and more on small niches that start to add up where the supply is close to non existent and where I'm usually the only option (I'd say the second).

JetCityImage


Jens G

For me number of sales ended up almost the same as january 2020.

But earnings were 72% lower than january 2020, and 60% lower than they would have been with the old earning structure  :'(

H2O

The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

marthamarks

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation...

If you're gonna cite the beast, at least call it by its correct name: SHITTERSTOCK

H2O

Quote from: marthamarks on February 01, 2021, 22:15
Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation...

If you're gonna cite the beast, at least call it by its correct name: SHITTERSTOCK

YOU ARE RIGHT, apologies for that.

The reason I wrote they are a bunch of Nazi's, is over the concentration camps they had a sign saying;- Work will set you free.

Clair Voyant

this is how shitterstock looks in my rear view mirror ꓘƆOTƧЯƎTTIHƧ

Horizon

Quote from: gnirtS on February 01, 2021, 13:20
Quote from: Horizon on February 01, 2021, 09:45
Yes of course they remain the same!^¨^   but all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc. the actual search algorithm is aimed towards that. SS have been nursing these markets for many years now!

India and Pakistan seems to be their main target for contributors (image farms etc).


Youre dead right! any country where 5 bucks a day goes a long way!  thats their nursing targets!

gnirtS

Quote from: Horizon on February 01, 2021, 22:35

Youre dead right! any country where 5 bucks a day goes a long way!  thats their nursing targets!

A quick look on the FB groups show that.  People prodly posting $10-$20 a month earnings, plenty of people jealous or saying amazing, others asking how they can sell as much.

This is SS key contributor market now - people who will upload for effectively nothing.  They dont need/want quality - there's Custom and Offset for that.

Bauman

Quote from: gnirtS on February 01, 2021, 22:44
They dont need/want quality - there's Custom and Offset for that.

Yes ... but sales on Offset, Getty, Adobe Premium ... are good or not ?

Digital

Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 01, 2021, 22:25
this is how shitterstock looks in my rear view mirror ꓘƆOTƧЯƎTTIHƧ

Everyone is leaving Shitterstock ... except for the people who got shitterstuck.

Horizon

Quote from: Bauman on February 02, 2021, 08:25
Quote from: gnirtS on February 01, 2021, 22:44
They dont need/want quality - there's Custom and Offset for that.

Yes ... but sales on Offset, Getty, Adobe Premium ... are good or not ?

No not good!  stock is not good anywhere!  just some are less worse then others!

Pauws99

Quote from: Horizon on February 01, 2021, 09:45
Yes of course they remain the same!^¨^   but all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc. the actual search algorithm is aimed towards that. SS have been nursing these markets for many years now!
Contributors are not a market they are suppliers. Do you have any evidence that the search engine is geared that way or any reason why it is of any commercial advantage to SS that contribitors come from certain countries?

Uncle Pete

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Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 01, 2021, 22:25
this is how shitterstock looks in my rear view mirror ꓘƆOTƧЯƎTTIHƧ

I appreciate a good effort like that.  :)

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:45
Contributors are not a market they are suppliers. Do you have any evidence that the search engine is geared that way or any reason why it is of any commercial advantage to SS that contributors come from certain countries?

No one does, just like most of the other invented claims. But then people repeat the lies enough times and someone else will believe it's actually truth.

Called Factoids. But also known as The Big Lie.

Oddly enough: The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

So tales of how Shutterstock favors someone else or does horrible things to give others some advantage or cheat us, is an example. Salary caps, account blackouts, favoring some country, favoring some contributor, making special deals in secret, or why our sales are down because someone else is getting special favors. 

The truth is, they don't need to cheat and block, or play favorites, because they make so much from any sales, (AKA pay us all so little) it doesn't matter to them.
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Pauws99

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.
Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

marthamarks

Quote from: Digital on February 02, 2021, 10:43
Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 01, 2021, 22:25
this is how shitterstock looks in my rear view mirror ꓘƆOTƧЯƎTTIHƧ

Everyone is leaving Shitterstock ... except for the people who got shitterstuck.

Good one! :D

Pacesetter

Sales are in the gutter everywhere so far this year.

H2O

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55
Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.
Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.


I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.


Horizon

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 02, 2021, 19:53
Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 01, 2021, 22:25
this is how shitterstock looks in my rear view mirror ꓘƆOTƧЯƎTTIHƧ

I appreciate a good effort like that.  :)

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:45
Contributors are not a market they are suppliers. Do you have any evidence that the search engine is geared that way or any reason why it is of any commercial advantage to SS that contributors come from certain countries?

No one does, just like most of the other invented claims. But then people repeat the lies enough times and someone else will believe it's actually truth.

Called Factoids. But also known as The Big Lie.

Oddly enough: The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

So tales of how Shutterstock favors someone else or does horrible things to give others some advantage or cheat us, is an example. Salary caps, account blackouts, favoring some country, favoring some contributor, making special deals in secret, or why our sales are down because someone else is getting special favors. 

The truth is, they don't need to cheat and block, or play favorites, because they make so much from any sales, (AKA pay us all so little) it doesn't matter to them.

You are quite right Pete! its all lies nothing but lies and people can not use their own intelligence! the fact that soome US members with over 50000 files are down 70% is all lies no truth at all since they are lying!
SS is all above board fair and square and do their utmost to bring peace and happiness among all their contributors. The fact that SS themselves 4 years back came clean with saying they are going to make it "fair" trying to give everybody a slice of the cake!: is all lies of course!

Well Pete its like believeing in Santa isnt it! never the less: Never have so many millions had so few (SS) to thank for so much! at least thats true.....isnt it?

Horizon

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00
Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55
Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.
Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.


I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!

Mimi the Cat

Quote from: Horizon on February 03, 2021, 14:29
Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00
Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55
Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.
Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.


I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!

Good grief its not because they are facists or Jewish its because they follow the same old well trodden path of all businesses in the USA which is crush everyone, competition, suppliers et al.

Corporate greed and good old fashioned capitalism.

JetCityImage

"Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!"


Honestly, this might be the worst take yet.

SpaceStockFootage

Quote from: Horizon on February 03, 2021, 14:23
the fact that soome US members with over 50000 files are down 70% is all lies no truth at all since they are lying!

So how exactly does 'soome US members with over 50000 files are down 70%' prove that 'all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc'?!

Uncle Pete

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on February 03, 2021, 15:44
Quote from: Horizon on February 03, 2021, 14:23
the fact that soome US members with over 50000 files are down 70% is all lies no truth at all since they are lying!

So how exactly does 'soome US members with over 50000 files are down 70%' prove that 'all revenues are geared towards the eastern blocks, Thailand etc, etc'?!

Thanks for bringing this back to the point. False claims and made up data.

(and away from senseless personal attacks that ignore the original false claims and fabrications)
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Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!
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