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Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!

What a shallow shallow human being you are.
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You are reading me wrong! I was being sarcastic to the poster that originally said this!  I was being fecicious you see!

Lowest $ since february 2015, half of what I made last month and jan 2020 

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

Quote from: Horizon on February 03, 2021, 17:07

Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 03, 2021, 17:03


Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!

What a shallow shallow human being you are.

You are reading me wrong! I was being sarcastic to the poster that originally said this!  I was being fecicious you see!
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Sorry if I read into your sarcasm wrongly, that said just so you know it does come across as shallow. Sadly at times texting or messaging is the ultimate way to miscommunicate. My sarcasm gets me into trouble all the time Carry on....

Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 03, 2021, 21:33

Quote from: Horizon on February 03, 2021, 17:07

Quote from: Clair Voyant on February 03, 2021, 17:03


Yep!  and this is very strange considering both Oringer and Pavlovsky are of Jewish origin/religion!

What a shallow shallow human being you are.

You are reading me wrong! I was being sarcastic to the poster that originally said this!  I was being fecicious you see!

Sorry if I read into your sarcasm wrongly, that said just so you know it does come across as shallow. Sadly at times texting or messaging is the ultimate way to miscommunicate. My sarcasm gets me into trouble all the time Carry on....
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Thats Ok no hard feelings!  I did actually word it badly! 

Quote from: thx9000 on February 03, 2021, 18:19
Lowest $ since february 2015, half of what I made last month and jan 2020 

Yup, same here....Shitterstock didn't just take. They stole.

Quote from: Bad Robot on February 03, 2021, 15:15


Good grief its not because they are facists or Jewish its because they follow the same old well trodden path of all businesses in the USA which is crush everyone, competition, suppliers et al.

Corporate greed and good old fashioned capitalism.

it just shows the general ignorance of posters who couldn't define capitalism or fascism in the first place  and narrowness of their worldview to concentrate on SS as evil when there are so many major companies that pay no taxes, are super-polluters, etc etc.  SS isn't even a blip on radar

and anti-semitism is on the rise (still) when congressfolk can claim a laser stared the west coast wildfires

21% increase in sales, 42% drop in $.

The first part of the month until I hit level 4 was painfully low $. That and a drop in footage sales did the real damage.

But, AS is doing very well... especially footage. Maybe a shift from SS - AS?!? Who knows. SS is probably 1/4 of AS... maybe less.

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 11:49

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

The fee structure is based on the capitalist system of supply and demand. Nothing to do with fascism. You don't work for Shutterstock and no one is forcing you to contribute. One of the primary definitions of Fascism is nationalism which they are the complete opposite of. They are simply exploitative bosses.

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 04, 2021, 12:07

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 11:49

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

The fee structure is based on the capitalist system of supply and demand. Nothing to do with fascism. You don't work for Shutterstock and no one is forcing you to contribute. One of the primary definitions of Fascism is nationalism which they are the complete opposite of. They are simply exploitative bosses.

You are stating the obvious but in business there is a certain amount of " com il faut " among companies their employees and of course in our case contributors and this and business ethics seems to be non existent in terms of SS.
No we are not working for them but we are supplying them with our pictures and of course also our TRUST!!:  violated!

Anyway back to the subject

Just reached level three today Woo Hoo!!! 

Still 10 cents coming in

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 04, 2021, 12:07

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 11:49

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

The fee structure is based on the capitalist system of supply and demand. Nothing to do with fascism. You don't work for Shutterstock and no one is forcing you to contribute. One of the primary definitions of Fascism is nationalism which they are the complete opposite of. They are simply exploitative bosses.

I don't believe the fee structure is supply and demand, it is based on those who control the fees ripping off the suppliers, by hiding behind a fee structure that they won't divulge.


The definition of Fascism is;- a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

This can be directly applied to Shutterstock as a business, the only trait that is missing is 'ultranationalism' otherwise all the characteristics are the same.

They are Business Fascists, it is a way of thinking. 

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 14:04

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 04, 2021, 12:07

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 11:49

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

The fee structure is based on the capitalist system of supply and demand. Nothing to do with fascism. You don't work for Shutterstock and no one is forcing you to contribute. One of the primary definitions of Fascism is nationalism which they are the complete opposite of. They are simply exploitative bosses.

I don't believe the fee structure is supply and demand, it is based on those who control the fees ripping off the suppliers, by hiding behind a fee structure that they won't divulge.


The definition of Fascism is;- a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

This can be directly applied to Shutterstock as a business, the only trait that is missing is 'ultranationalism' otherwise all the characteristics are the same.

They are Business Fascists, it is a way of thinking.

No one is forcing you to have any kind of relationship with Shutterstock whatsover. Whilst SS may be the largest player they don't have power to dictate anything...and certainly not the way society or economies function.

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 14:04

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 04, 2021, 12:07

Quote from: H2O on February 04, 2021, 11:49

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 03, 2021, 18:32

Quote from: H2O on February 03, 2021, 11:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 02, 2021, 19:55

Quote from: H2O on February 01, 2021, 22:05
The reality is ShutterStock is run as a facist organisation, it doesn't remotely come anywhere near capitalism.

Those who continue to upload are just being exploited by a bunch of Nazi's.

Shutterstock is a  product of unfettered free market capitalism. It has nothing whatever to do with Fascism as far as I can see. To draw parallels with concentration camps is a bit ridiculous really.

I am drawing a parallel with how Jon Oringer and Stan Pavlovsky think, there thinking is straight out of the Facist playbook.

For example?

I am not saying that Oringer and Pavlovsky are doing this because they are Jewish, (who cares what they are) I am simply saying they are Fascist, sure they run Shutterstock like many large companies (who are also run by Fascists).

The whole fee structure is 'Work will set you Free', which is a Facist motto.

The fee structure is based on the capitalist system of supply and demand. Nothing to do with fascism. You don't work for Shutterstock and no one is forcing you to contribute. One of the primary definitions of Fascism is nationalism which they are the complete opposite of. They are simply exploitative bosses.

I don't believe the fee structure is supply and demand, it is based on those who control the fees ripping off the suppliers, by hiding behind a fee structure that they won't divulge.


The definition of Fascism is;- a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

This can be directly applied to Shutterstock as a business, the only trait that is missing is 'ultranationalism' otherwise all the characteristics are the same.

They are Business Fascists, it is a way of thinking.

Then delete your portfolio and leave them if you hate them that much

Quote from: Bad Robot on February 04, 2021, 13:44
Anyway back to the subject

Just reached level three today Woo Hoo!!! 

Still 10 cents coming in

Congratulations to moving up, one step closer to getting more dimes. While I sit at level 1 getting? Dimes!  

Actually good that for the real sales and not the subs, you'll get 25% now which according to old calculations, was about what we got before the "new improved, reward based system". S

Reached level 4 for images before the end of january.
Level 3 for videos at the end of this week (theoretically)

Anyway, Adobe is flying (january about 3x of SS)

I just reached level 4 for Shutterstock but January was the best month I have ever had with Adobe. A great month makes me want to shoot more content.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 04, 2021, 15:43

Quote from: Bad Robot on February 04, 2021, 13:44
Anyway back to the subject

Just reached level three today Woo Hoo!!! 

Still 10 cents coming in

Congratulations to moving up, one step closer to getting more dimes. While I sit at level 1 getting? Dimes!  

Actually good that for the real sales and not the subs, you'll get 25% now which according to old calculations, was about what we got before the "new improved, reward based system". S

I just feel so good that my images are making Jon and Stan even more wealthy.

I do hope Jon can buy a new helicopter he deserves it 

Dean!  for many uploading is a hobby some extra cash but for many serious members full-timers it used to be part of a living!  yes earnings used to increase for hard work but not nowadays. Many complain they spend hours shooting and hours in front of the computer with no reward at all in fact some complain they even earn less.
Quality is gone and its all a matter of quantity!

The gravy-train is over and the ship is long gone!

Quote from: Horizon on February 05, 2021, 15:56
The gravy-train is over and the ship is long gone!

The train crashed and the ship sank.   

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 05, 2021, 16:20

Quote from: Horizon on February 05, 2021, 15:56
The gravy-train is over and the ship is long gone!

The train crashed and the ship sank.   

All this is true, and it was Oringer and Pavlovsky who crashed the train and ran off with all the cash, shutterstock is like a the old Wild West.

It's a sick up.

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 05, 2021, 16:20

Quote from: Horizon on February 05, 2021, 15:56
The gravy-train is over and the ship is long gone!

The train crashed and the ship sank.   

And the sharks are circling sniffing the gravy

Quote from: H2O on February 05, 2021, 16:29

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 05, 2021, 16:20

Quote from: Horizon on February 05, 2021, 15:56
The gravy-train is over and the ship is long gone!

The train crashed and the ship sank.   

All this is true, and it was Oringer and Pavlovsky who crashed the train and ran off with all the cash, shutterstock is like a the old Wild West.

It's a sick up.

They were hardly first in line were they? Every microstock agency has been doing the same over the last 5 years. You seem to reserve your ire for Shutterstock but what has happened is consistent with every other industry since capitalism began.

I sold 101 photos on SS in January 2021.

So, I moved to tier 2 on 1st February.

43% of my income in January was from on-demand sales.

I'm still think I can make more on SS in 2021 than in 2020.