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Lower rotalties on Dreamstime?

Started by Hildegarde, April 17, 2022, 14:35

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Hildegarde

I have recently had sales where I receive $0.30 ans $0.15.  Until now, all my sales were $0.35 or $2.00.

Anyone else?

MPfoto71

I only had 4x $0,35 in April so far - nothing below that until today.

Firn

Very strange.

Also had nothing below 0.35 so far this month.

Jo Ann Snover

Nothing below 35cents.

Could this be a tax withholding issue?

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zeljkok

0.35s here as well, with one 2.00 and one 4.49


eyewave

Life is random.

dirkr

I've had sales like that before, as low as $0,12.
These have been credit sales (XS size, so one credit, and at 25% royalty for a level 0 image = never sold before).
It seems that there are some highly discounted credits out there so we might end up getting such low returns.

But it's been very rare cases, less than a handfull in the last few years.

Hildegarde

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 17, 2022, 18:43
Nothing below 35cents.

Could this be a tax withholding issue?

No, not tax withholding issue.

Josephine

the number of sales is o.k. but the 2 Dollar sales disappeared totaly, only 35 Cents left.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: eyewave on April 17, 2022, 20:51
none below 0.35

Now you folks made me look. Nothing except 35 cent sales since last year. None more, none less.
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RalfLiebhold

Now I had a look too. One credit sale in March for 13 Cent.

zeljkok

Could be worth posting on their Forum;  it is generally dead, but questions like this will get answered by one of their Admins

Jo Ann Snover

Quote from: dirkr on April 17, 2022, 21:43
I've had sales like that before, as low as $0,12.
These have been credit sales (XS size, so one credit, and at 25% royalty for a level 0 image = never sold before).
It seems that there are some highly discounted credits out there so we might end up getting such low returns.

But it's been very rare cases, less than a handfull in the last few years.

https://www.dreamstime.com/about-stock-image-licenses

Even with a level 0 XS sale - where the image is older than 6 months with 0 sales - DT says one credit is "as low as" 77¢ in presenting prices to buyers. 25% of 77¢ is 19¢. Possibly there's more discounting going on that the pricing page is letting on?

I have had a sprinkling of credit sales in the last few months; only one was for an XS and that netted 34¢

TonyD

Quote from: Josephine on April 18, 2022, 08:19
the number of sales is o.k. but the 2 Dollar sales disappeared totaly, only 35 Cents left.
yes last had a $2+ sale nearly a year ago, since then it'dropped to 38c then the last few to 35c

Photobomb

On March 18th I had 2 sales for .16 each.
I reached out to DT whose reply was that it was my percentage of the sales price, and referred me to the earnings page. Which still in my opinion doesn't explain the lower royalties.

pancaketom

A long time ago there were some very discounted credits being used - resulting in very low sale prices and even lower returns - especially for level 0 pics. If the credits never expire I am guessing there are a few still out there. Almost all sales are .35 these days - although I did have a $17.25 50 credit sale this month.
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wordplanet

Mine this month are .35, .42 or $2.  Even back to the beginning of the year, nothing below .35, highest $5.79 (looks like a one-time sale XS image, 11 credits). I noticed that at least one image that has had 225 DLs & so is Level 5, still earns only .35 at the low end - I guess they must have done away with the levels earning more at some point? I don't really remember.
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pancaketom

Quote from: wordplanet on April 20, 2022, 00:14
Mine this month are .35, .42 or $2.  Even back to the beginning of the year, nothing below .35, highest $5.79 (looks like a one-time sale XS image, 11 credits). I noticed that at least one image that has had 225 DLs & so is Level 5, still earns only .35 at the low end - I guess they must have done away with the levels earning more at some point? I don't really remember.

Yes, they stopped charging more credits and paying more for higher level sub sales a long time ago. The all too rare credit sales cost more and you get a higher percentage if they are a higher level.
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zeljkok

I actually find Dreamstime compensation model fairly well worked out. Main problem is lack of sales, directly caused by years of total absence of any QA, which completely flooded the libraries with sub-standard content, similar, spammed metadata etc

ravens

Had a look, no below 0.35 sales. Mostly 0.35 and 2.00 this year. Thanks for the alert.

Hildegarde

Thanks everyone.   Just surprised me because typically get higher.  Sales there are increasing.

Interestingly, I ended up in discussion with a woman who uses stock for the communications of local organization.  Dreamstime is the agency used, not the others.

zeljkok

On topic of Dreamstime,  they have these monthly contests, various subjects & chosen images get automatically promoted to level 5 (even if not one of first 3 places).  Criteria is reasonable. But this month they are running "Our Ukraine" contest and acceptance is quite rigid - only 15 images chosen so far, while it would be 150-200 by now in other contests.

This one just blows my mind;  I'd not be surprised if it wins