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frustrated with SOME of the lazy reviewers at shutterstock w/100% rejections

Started by SuperPhoto, April 22, 2020, 03:35

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TonyD

Quote from: pucko on April 30, 2020, 13:11
15 rejected - 2 film noise/grain, 1 focus and 12 file transfer error, next submit all accepted, then 8 rejected - file transfer error, next all accepted
yes I think that's true but SS should be more honest about it. If they don't want a certain type of photo, they should say so, NOT reject it foir noise /focus when every other agency you submit to accepts same photo which always seems to happen to me.

Hildegarde

Most of the agencies seem to have incompetent reviewers.... out of focus/motion blur-- nope.  Technical error-- nope.  Poor composition- nope -- from reviewer who has no clue what composition is.  Similar image-- nope one is a macro  -- totally different.  Just move on-- they do sell at agencies where accepted-- rejecting agency's loss.

Roscoe

Quote from: Hildegarde on July 12, 2022, 03:31
Most of the agencies seem to have incompetent reviewers.... out of focus/motion blur-- nope.  Technical error-- nope.  Poor composition- nope -- from reviewer who has no clue what composition is.  Similar image-- nope one is a macro  -- totally different.  Just move on-- they do sell at agencies where accepted-- rejecting agency's loss.
Not sure. Speaking from my own, anecdotal, experience here: some of my good earning images were rejected during the first upload.
I had to upload them twice or even a third time before they were accepted. I thought those were quality-wise rather decent shots with respectable commercial value, so I persisted despite Shutterstock telling me different. In the end, I was right, and they started selling, earning me several hundreds of dollars.

TonyD

Shutterstock is now accepting virtually all of my photos. (even older ones that they rejected several times before and I gave up on) There are not even those stupid noise & focus rejections anymore. Maybe their A.I. has improved a lot or they were losing sales due to too many incorrect rejections.

trek

Or maybe they've become more interested in collecting data sets than curating a concise collection of artistic assets.

Injustice for all

with SS I have 100% approval in the last 200 content I've submitted,mostly editorial.

I generally send 2-5 content a day,sometimes more.

I think rejections happen more when i send too much content in a short time,or if the submitted content already exists in large numbers in the library.

I am not a video lover,but from what i have seen,they are more selective with videos.

Roscoe

Yes, they definitely changed their policy. Barely rejections nowadays.
Feels like they're very hungry for content (to sell as datasets for AI training I assume).

Pacesetter

And maybe there's been a drop in uploads and now realising  they're missing new quality content that is going to other sites like Adobe that treat their contributors better

Zero Talent

I noticed that some photos are instantly rejected (a minute or so after the upload). Moreover all subsequent attempts are also rejected instantly, no matter how many times I retried (even several weeks apart).

When it doesn't happen, the photos are staying in the queue for a day or two and then are approved 100% of the time.

The instant rejection is only for noise/pixelation... Obviously there is an algorithm doing this pre-check before humans go through the same stuff and just click the accept button.

My conclusion is that the algorithm is confusing some dense urban skylines and buildings with regular patterns of windows/details (like in Miami, see the 100% zoom below) with pixelation/noise, thus instantly rejecting perfectly fine photos.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: Zero Talent on May 25, 2023, 16:32
I noticed that some photos are instantly rejected (a minute or so after the upload). Moreover all subsequent attempts are also rejected instantly, no matter how many times I retried (even several weeks apart).

When it doesn't happen, the photos are staying in the queue for a day or two and then are approved 100% of the time.

The instant rejection is only for noise/pixelation... Obviously there is an algorithm doing this pre-check before humans go through the same stuff and just click the accept button.

My conclusion is that the algorithm is confusing some dense urban skylines and buildings with regular patterns of windows/details (like in Miami, see the 100% zoom below) with pixelation/noise, thus instantly rejecting perfectly fine photos.

Also somethings, sandy beach, leaves if a dense pattern, rain, water and roadways. Just some I have had rejected.

Yes the AI does appear to be the fast review, before the images go to a real review. There's also a possibility of different tracks for different kinds of content. Illustrations used to fly through while photos take longer.
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BalkanskiMacak

In the past few months, I got as well a few "automated" rejections, it always happen this way when I upload a batch:
-a few pictures are getting instantly rejected, usually for noise/exposure
-the other pictures will follow the usual process

Regarding the pictures that are instantly rejected, there's no way they will be accepted, whatever I do to correct them.

I found, however, a workaround: adding an old case number to the rejected pictures. In this situation, the picture gets reviewed and approved within days.

There's definitely an AI issue here. I guess raising the problem to their support might work in a few cases (I got a few approved this way as well).

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Zero Talent

Quote from: BalkanskiMacak on May 26, 2023, 15:09
In the past few months, I got as well a few "automated" rejections, it always happen this way when I upload a batch:
-a few pictures are getting instantly rejected, usually for noise/exposure
-the other pictures will follow the usual process

Regarding the pictures that are instantly rejected, there's no way they will be accepted, whatever I do to correct them.

I found, however, a workaround: adding an old case number to the rejected pictures. In this situation, the picture gets reviewed and approved within days.

There's definitely an AI issue here. I guess raising the problem to their support might work in a few cases (I got a few approved this way as well).

So you found a way to circumvent the Artificial Stupidity!
Nice!
Too bad I don't have any old case numbers...

Edit: I found an email from 2015 with an old case number and used it to re-upload the photo mentioned above. Let's see if this works  ;D

Zero Talent

Ha!
It was not instantly rejected as it was for the previous 6-7 times I tried.

6 hours after, it is still in the pending queue. This may work, looool!
;D

Zero Talent

Quote from: Zero Talent on May 27, 2023, 02:04
Ha!
It was not instantly rejected as it was for the previous 6-7 times I tried.

6 hours after, it is still in the pending queue. This may work, looool!
;D

Update: it worked! The photo is now approved.

It took more than usual to go through the process (5-6 days), but a human decided that the automated algorithm was wrong :)

Thanks @BalkanskiMacak!  ;)