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Big credit but no sale. Has this happened to anyone else?

Started by cristianstorto, September 13, 2023, 07:04

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HalfFull

Mat, if you see this... first off I'd just like to say thanks, much appreciated.

Couple of questions though, one screen grab states future payouts would be based on new approved images and downloads. Is that downloads from the new files or, your total downloads from your overall port for whatever time period decided?  The Adobe email has confirmed it's downloads from new files.

Secondly, will AI generated images be included or excluded from the AI bonus. I guess if they're included in Firefly learning there maybe a risk that AI is trying to learn from itself including the mistakes... that could lead to poor results in the long run. I guess there will also be a risk it would accelerate the numbers of AI images being submitted... we already have over a month wait for images to be approved so there is potential for this to deteriorate further. Cheers

Reimar

Way better than SS - $282 based on 9000 photographs at AS.

mike123

The fact that it's just a one-time payment for a lifetime commercial usage of our photos in Firefly AI, makes it even less compelling to upload new content to Adobe. I'm happy I only uploaded low-quality stuff to Adobe in the last 3 years (since Shutterstock's demise) and now see no reason to change that in future.

MatHayward

Quote from: HalfFull on September 13, 2023, 14:07
Mat, if you see this... first off I'd just like to say thanks, much appreciated.

Couple of questions though, one screen grab states future payouts would be based on new approved images and downloads. Is that downloads from the new files or, your total downloads from your overall port for whatever time period decided?  The Adobe email has confirmed it's downloads from new files.

Secondly, will AI generated images be included or excluded from the AI bonus. I guess if they're included in Firefly learning there maybe a risk that AI is trying to learn from itself including the mistakes... that could lead to poor results in the long run. I guess there will also be a risk it would accelerate the numbers of AI images being submitted... we already have over a month wait for images to be approved so there is potential for this to deteriorate further. Cheers

Thanks for the question.

All content that is on Adobe Stock goes through the same strict submission guidelines and moderation process, which includes Generative AI images. This content enhances our dataset training model, and we decided to include this content for the commercially released version of Firefly. Contributors of generative AI were included in the bonus payment.

-Mat Hayward

HalfFull

Quote from: MatHayward on September 13, 2023, 14:20
Quote from: HalfFull on September 13, 2023, 14:07
Mat, if you see this... first off I'd just like to say thanks, much appreciated.

Couple of questions though, one screen grab states future payouts would be based on new approved images and downloads. Is that downloads from the new files or, your total downloads from your overall port for whatever time period decided?  The Adobe email has confirmed it's downloads from new files.

Secondly, will AI generated images be included or excluded from the AI bonus. I guess if they're included in Firefly learning there maybe a risk that AI is trying to learn from itself including the mistakes... that could lead to poor results in the long run. I guess there will also be a risk it would accelerate the numbers of AI images being submitted... we already have over a month wait for images to be approved so there is potential for this to deteriorate further. Cheers

Thanks for the question.

All content that is on Adobe Stock goes through the same strict submission guidelines and moderation process, which includes Generative AI images. This content enhances our dataset training model, and we decided to include this content for the commercially released version of Firefly. Contributors of generative AI were included in the bonus payment.

-Mat Hayward

Thanks for the response Mat. I guess you'll have seen quite a few pages of the AI errors that have been accepted. Is it the intention of Adobe to really ramp up the reviewing process. It seems that the reviewers are probably under a lot of pressure at the moment (given the long delays for image approvals) which may result in rushed decisions.