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« on: June 05, 2006, 11:20 »
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Hi, 20 of my Shutterstock photos were submitted (and accepted) with a model release.  Several are quite successful, so I would like to submit them to Istock too.  But the model release is the Shutterstock text.  I can hardly visit the model(s) every time I join another microstock site and ask him/her to sign a new form for an old shoot, can I ? 

What do you do in such situations?

The most recent release mentioned Shutterstock AND Istockphoto, but when I submitted the photo, it was rejected by Istock because they needed an ID ???   Are they kidding?  Here in Flanders, the only ones that ask for ID's are the police ...


« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 12:17 »
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I get the models to sign one release form, the iStockphoto release form. I then scan in and save for use with IS. I then edit out the IS logo, address and text at the bottom, resave and use this for every other microstock site. Had no problems at all with anyone. Dreamstime don't like it if you save your MRFs at anything less than 1000 pixels on longest edge.

« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 12:20 »
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Great idea!  I'll try that in future!

Have you ever had the request for an ID ?

« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 12:30 »
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phildate,

Legally speaking, can you do these changes in the releases?  I read somewhere that you may have just one release, without any site's logo or anything, and they would be accepted in all of them.  I never tried it myself because I don't produce people's images.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 13:20 »
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I looked at several different releases on all the major stock websites.  I took the clauses that I liked and felt appropriate for me and created my own generic one.  I have two releases, one for adults and the other for minors.  I have the model sign the generic one and I haven't had any problem with any of the websites rejecting my release.  The only logo on my release is my own.

Mark

« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 13:26 »
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Thanks, that would be the best solution, using my own logo and not mentioning any microstock site.

Has Istock ever asked for some kind of ID of the model, in addition to your model release(s) ?

« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 18:33 »
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I have never received a request for an ID for a model.  That is definitely odd.

Mark

« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2006, 03:19 »
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they do state on their release that they want an id, but i have never had to submit one.  I do however cut out a little image of the model from the pictures and attach it to the top corner of the release so that both them and i know who it refers to.

If you make your own release, make sure take a good look at the istock release and get all the info they ask for
ie. telephone number, address, email, ... and so on  If it has all the info they ask for it should be good.

« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2006, 03:30 »
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Hello everybody, thanks for this interesting thread, reading the above, I intend to use IS release for different MS. I hope things have not changed since June, otherwise I would appreciate to hear from those having new experiences with an harmonised MR (so using the IS one as common MR). Thanks in advance! jean

« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2006, 15:44 »
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Just like to say that I have used of  IS release (with removing the logo) apart of dreamstime everybody accept it. A pity in fact...jean

« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2006, 15:38 »
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Even with all logos and specific references removed, Dreamstime won't accept any other company's model release from me.  So, I just don't bother with people shots with them anymore. As for IS wanting an ID, is it possible that your model looks under age? If so, they will require ID if the model signed rather than a parent/guardian.

« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2006, 17:56 »
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I get the models to sign one release form, the iStockphoto release form. I then scan in and save for use with IS. I then edit out the IS logo, address and text at the bottom, resave and use this for every other microstock site. Had no problems at all with anyone. Dreamstime don't like it if you save your MRFs at anything less than 1000 pixels on longest edge.

I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV or anything, but I think that if you alter the text of the document after it's been signed, that invalidates the signature.  It might be a good idea to alter the document first (so that it's generic), and then use that to get model signatures.  That way, if you ever do run into any trouble, the original model release exactly matches what you're uploading to all sites.  Just my two cents worth.

« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2006, 20:32 »
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I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV or anything, but I think that if you alter the text of the document after it's been signed, that invalidates the signature.  It might be a good idea to alter the document first (so that it's generic), and then use that to get model signatures.  That way, if you ever do run into any trouble, the original model release exactly matches what you're uploading to all sites.  Just my two cents worth.
It doesn't matter as long as the photographer has an authentic, unaltered, original. Also, he's not editing out any of the actual text of the agreement. Only the logo at the top and the copyright notice at the bottom.

But I agree that it would be a lot easier to do the operation just once and have the model sign the altered version, rather than edit it out every time you want to up load a model release.


 

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