Author Topic: Fiverr/Getty ... (Read 23919 times)

dingles · « **on:** June 30, 2015, 19:55 »

Fiverr is thrilled to announce the integration of Getty Images, one of the world’s leading creators and distributors of award-winning imagery. Through this partnership, Fiverr sellers will be able to offer buyers an incredible array of licensed, high-quality stock images! Protect yourself and your buyers by using only original content that has been fully licensed.

You’ll be able to offer high-quality work with no risk. Take your pick from millions of images to offer your buyers, and earn a commission of 25% on every image sold. It’s a win-win for everybody!

Using licensed images is as simple as 1-2-3:

1. Buyer orders your Gig, and adds a “Stock Image” extra for only $10.
2. Select an image and download it to use in the order.
3. Deliver the order to the buyer.

To enable the Stock Image extra, go to My Sales> My Gigs and check the “Stock” extra under “Add Gig Extras

dingles · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2015, 19:58 »

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fiverr-r-teams-getty-images-110000837.html

cthoman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2015, 19:58 »

What could possibly go wrong with that?

Shelma1 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2015, 20:11 »

I don't get it. What does this mean for existing contributors? Who gets 25%, exactly? The Fiverr person? While the indie photographer who created the image still gets only 15%? If they license the image for $10, does that mean the Getty library is now available to license for $10?

ShadySue · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2015, 20:26 »

Wasn’t it only last week they were complaining about Adobe pricing at $10?

I'm not at all sure what it means for the contributor. Hopefully more than subs. Hope buyers there are educated in terms of use, particularly editorial.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2015, 20:59 »

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Selling on Fiverr Seller Features Offering Premium Quality Licensed Stock Images
OFFERING PREMIUM QUALITY LICENSED STOCK IMAGES

You can offer premium quality licensed stock image as an extra when setting up your Gig. If the buyer purchases the stock image Gig extra, you just select an image from the gallery and download it for use in your delivery.

To enable and select a stock image:

When defining extras in your Gig, mark the checkbox next to 'Stock Image' extra.
If the buyer purchases this Gig extra, you will see it in the order page.
Within the Order page in the STOCK IMAGES section, click Select Image.

Note: If the buyer purchased multiple images, you will have the option to select more than one.

After you select the image and finish your work, click Deliver Your Order.
Notes:

Once you deliver, the buyer will be able to see the image you selected.
The image may only be used for the purpose of the specific order.
You cannot share the original stock image file with anyone else.
Stock Images Category Availability

Subcategories followed by a * indicate that this extra was automatically enabled.

Graphics & Design: Cartoons & Caricatures, Logo Design, Illustration, Book Covers & Packaging *, Photoshop Editing, Flyers & Posters *, Business Cards & Stationery, Banner Ads *, Social Media Design *, 3D & 2D Models, Web & Mobile Design *, Presentations & Infographics *, Invitations *, T-Shirts *, Vector Tracing, Other

Online Marketing: Article & PR Submission *, Blog Mentions *, Fan Pages *, Social Marketing, Video Marketing, Other

Writing & Translation: Articles & Blog Posts *, Business Copywriting *, Research & Summaries *, Press Releases *

Video & Animation: Commercials, Editing & Post Production, Animation & 3D, Testimonials & Reviews by Actors, Puppets, Stop Motion, Intros, Other

Programming & Tech: WordPress *, Web Programming, Mobile Apps & Web *, Website Builders & CMS *, Ecommerce, Desktop applications, Other

Advertising: Hold Your Sign, Flyers & Handouts *, Outdoor Advertising *, Music Promotion, Banner Advertising, Other *

Business: Presentations *, Branding Services *, Other

Gifts: Greeting Cards *, Video Greetings, Unusual Gift, Arts & Crafts, Gifts for Geeks, Postcards From..., Recycled Crafts, Other

Fun & Bizarre: Your Message On..., Extremely Bizarre, Celebrity Impersonators, Daredevils & Stunts, Pranks, Dancers, Just for Fun, Other

The Fiverr person gets 25%, or $2.50. The indie photographer gets 15%, or $1.50, unless we're informed otherwise. I especially love the VECTOR TRACING gig I bolded, that's now available through iStock/Getty. So although the Fiverr person is not supposed to share the original with the buyer, what exactly would they share with a gig called vector tracing???

iStock pays the lowest royalties around, but is clearly able to afford to pay a lot more to a third party. I find this disturbing, to put it mildly.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2015, 22:40 »

I swear I was reading for a punch line - I figured this had to be a joke.

Fiverr has been totally out to lunch in dealing with gigs that offer to resell stock images (the give me the number and I'll download it for you type). Then there's the huge packs of pretty lame stock images that are legit (these packages come with reseller rights so it's legit in a low-rent-district sort of way). And into this steps Getty???

I guess they really are desperate and don't care much about long term consequences as this cannot be a good thing for contributors - this is a marketplace that has no discernible respect for IP rights.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #7 on:** July 01, 2015, 01:30 »

Here are some links from the Fiverr blogs and help on this new feature:

http://forum.fiverr.com/discussion/71633/live-now-upgrade-your-gig-with-a-stock-image-extra#Item_4

http://support.fiverr.com/hc/en-us/articles/206490827-Offering-Premium-Quality-Licensed-Stock-Images

It appears that the Gig seller has to choose the image for the buyer and some of the forum posts had gig sellers upset that this new feature was automatically on (for certain categories of gigs) and you had to turn it off if you didn't want it and that they didn't want to get negative feedback from buyers if the seller had to pick the image and then the buyer didn't like it. It appears from one of the posts that the intention is eventually to let the buyer pick.

This article has some screen shots:

http://thenextweb.com/creativity/2015/07/01/fiverr-and-getty-images-team-up-to-level-the-playing-field-for-small-business-creativity/

There was also some Fiverr forum confusion about how much the seller actually received - if $2.50 went to Fiverr and $7.50 to Getty, did the seller keep $2 and hand $0.50 to Fiverr (that's the standard deal)?

It appears they've been testing this since mid June and things weren't working all that well. I don't sell via Fiverr - has anyone here actually used this on a gig who can say anything more about how well it works?

ShadySue · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2015, 06:21 »

Has anyone seen anything about this from the iS/Getty side? I can't see anything on either forum, and I haven't had an email (though I dont get them all - the last one I got was on Monday).

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2015, 07:10 »

The feckin irony of this deal.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2015, 07:20 »

Idiotic. This will just confuse the situation even more. Now it will give the whole thing an air of legitimacy. Buyers on fiverr will have the option of buying an image from Getty for $10 or from other buyers, 200 for $5 or whatever or free as part of a $5 gig. Of course the latter two options feature stolen images, but hey, now there's even less chance of the buyer realising this.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2015, 09:17 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 01, 2015, 06:21

Has anyone seen anything about this from the iS/Getty side? I can't see anything on either forum, and I haven't had an email (though I dont get them all - the last one I got was on Monday).

There's the press release on Getty's site

http://press.gettyimages.com/fiverr-teams-with-getty-images-to-bring-affordable-creative-services-alternatives-and-stunning-imagery-to-small-businesses/

In some discussions on a private Facebook group, some exclusives seem resigned to deals and some find Fiverr a big step into sleaze

Shelma1 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2015, 09:22 »

According to this, "By adding Getty Images® Extras to their Gigs, Fiverr Sellers will receive:

Free access to the Getty Images® library of exclusive content without a subscription

Increased efficiency by saving time searching for images

A new revenue stream: 25% of the price of each stock image purchased for your Gigs"

They seem to be specific about exclusive content. I wonder if indies are excluded from the deal?

http://blog.fiverr.com/announcing-getty-stock-image-extras/?utm_source=fk_ct&utm_term=n912

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2015, 09:30 »

It's the new thing. All of these companies are now in a mad rush to put images in the systems buyers use.

I get the idea but is Fiverr the right partner? $5 to design logos and websites?

And I'm not seeing what images they have access to. Getty macro? Istock Exclusive? Istock Indy?

Shelma1 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:14 »

According to someone on the iStock forums, "Remember, it will only be 15-20% of the net not the gross as per our agreement. So at 20% it would be $1.50 not the expected $2, however, it may not even be that much if there are other expenses too."

So it's even worse than at first blush...we get royalties on the $7.50 left over after the fiverr gigger is paid their 25%. If indies are included.

Where's Tickstock? He was all over the Adobe thing but is loudly absent here.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=367431&page=1

dingles · « **Reply #15 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:33 »

God forbid they give a heads up and details to contributors. If the gig owner get 25% and the contributor gets less...*, that just feels wrong. Also, we have no idea what collections are even available to them.

BTW the whole $5 thing is a gimmick...they rely on the up sell...it's rare you find a full logo design for just $5 start to finish. At least a gig of any quality.

loop · « **Reply #16 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:33 »

Not excited about the deal. Fiverr is not a reputable site. Cheap, yes, but that's all. I've tried several times their services and I've got works that weren't at all good even considering the price. Some of them were simply 100% useless.
On the oher hand, the deal isn't easy to understand by sellers there.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:45 »

This is where it gets scary. Desperate, failing companies will throw contributors and our work under the bus for whatever pennies they can scrounge for themselves.

Rose Tinted Glasses · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:58 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 01, 2015, 10:45

This is where it gets scary. Desperate, failing companies will throw contributors and our work under the bus for whatever pennies they can scrounge for themselves.

What frightens me more is that even the so called successful publicly traded companies are doing this as well and this all seems to be the norm these days. Sadly they all seem to be throwing our work under the bus for those pennies. It's almost as if they are all playing a game of chicken to see who can get the closest to the bottom without actually crashing.

tickstock · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2015, 11:49 »

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on July 01, 2015, 10:58

Quote from: PixelBytes on July 01, 2015, 10:45
This is where it gets scary. Desperate, failing companies will throw contributors and our work under the bus for whatever pennies they can scrounge for themselves.

What frightens me more is that even the so called successful publicly traded companies are doing this as well and this all seems to be the norm these days. Sadly they all seem to be throwing our work under the bus for those pennies. It's almost as if they are all playing a game of chicken to see who can get the closest to the bottom without actually crashing.

Yep lots of competition for these deals, at least it's for a one time use and maybe it will give fiverr the incentive to protect photos a bit more.

StanRohrer · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2015, 12:18 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on June 30, 2015, 22:40

I swear I was reading for a punch line - I figured this had to be a joke.

Fiverr has been totally out to lunch in dealing with gigs that offer to resell stock images (the give me the number and I'll download it for you type). Then there's the huge packs of pretty lame stock images that are legit (these packages come with reseller rights so it's legit in a low-rent-district sort of way). And into this steps Getty???

I guess they really are desperate and don't care much about long term consequences as this cannot be a good thing for contributors - this is a marketplace that has no discernible respect for IP rights.

iStock/Getty still has the ghosts in the distant closets of the Google Drive and Microsoft deals. I wonder how soon they will unveil what is happening to contributors with this deal. Or, do we have to scout it out ourselves - like in those past deals.

Semmick Photo · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2015, 12:46 »

Quote from: tickstock on July 01, 2015, 11:49

Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on July 01, 2015, 10:58
Quote from: PixelBytes on July 01, 2015, 10:45
This is where it gets scary. Desperate, failing companies will throw contributors and our work under the bus for whatever pennies they can scrounge for themselves.

What frightens me more is that even the so called successful publicly traded companies are doing this as well and this all seems to be the norm these days. Sadly they all seem to be throwing our work under the bus for those pennies. It's almost as if they are all playing a game of chicken to see who can get the closest to the bottom without actually crashing.
Yep lots of competition for these deals, at least it's for a one time use and maybe it will give fiverr the incentive to protect photos a bit more.

is the end product one time use as well then?

dingles · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2015, 12:49 »

I guess it is asking too much for them to open about such things to contributors...now we are going to make this a bigger issue than it may be because they will not share any details to us.

I'm curious about the TOS for the use of these on Fiverr and how they plan to police anything ( of course they don't)

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2015, 13:07 »

Quote from: Semmick Photo on July 01, 2015, 12:46

Quote from: tickstock on July 01, 2015, 11:49
Quote from: Rose Tinted Glasses on July 01, 2015, 10:58
Quote from: PixelBytes on July 01, 2015, 10:45
This is where it gets scary. Desperate, failing companies will throw contributors and our work under the bus for whatever pennies they can scrounge for themselves.

What frightens me more is that even the so called successful publicly traded companies are doing this as well and this all seems to be the norm these days. Sadly they all seem to be throwing our work under the bus for those pennies. It's almost as if they are all playing a game of chicken to see who can get the closest to the bottom without actually crashing.
Yep lots of competition for these deals, at least it's for a one time use and maybe it will give fiverr the incentive to protect photos a bit more.
is the end product one time use as well then?

Fiverr's support page said it was not usable by the seller for any other gig, but the buyer of the gig can, I assume, use it like any RF image, but I haven't seen any license terms to verify that.

As far as how anyone would track that, who can tell? The setup is for the seller to pick the image and thus Getty would have no idea who the buyer was (and thus who was legit and who not).

Shelma1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2015, 13:19 »

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Once you deliver, the buyer will be able to see the image you selected.
The image may only be used for the purpose of the specific order.
You cannot share the original stock image file with anyone else.

http://support.fiverr.com/hc/en-us/articles/206490827-Offering-Premium-Quality-Licensed-Stock-Images?utm_source=bl_ct&utm_term=n912

So it sounds like a one-time use.

However, since the "seller" licenses the image, not the "buyer," I don't see how Getty could know where and by whom the image will ultimately be used. So how could they possibly police anything? And how would this give Fiverr "the incentive to protect photos a bit more"? It seems to me that it gives unscrupulous Fiverr "sellers" access to Getty images for a very low price. They get the high-res image; what's to stop them from re-using it? Or reselling it?

Plus, the uses include logo design, which I believe is forbidden by Getty, but is now allowed under these terms.

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