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Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« on: December 19, 2013, 15:25 »
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Is it just me or is anyone else having a back-to-back Worst Month in two years as well?

« Last Edit: December 19, 2013, 15:31 by Noedelhap »


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 15:34 »
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I cannot say as I do not see the PP sales   >:(

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 16:14 »
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I cannot say as I do not see the PP sales   >:(

What about your iStock-only sales bar (the blue one)?

ShadySue

« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 16:36 »
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My graph is totally different to yours:

but to put it in perspective, July was my worst month for $$ since Dec 2007.

« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 17:30 »
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My graph is totally different to yours:


My graph is different to yours, but the ups and downs of the blue bits are similar:


« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 17:50 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:58 by tickstock »

« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 18:41 »
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I have never had a Getty Images sale on iStock. Is it only for exclusive images or Vetta or sth?

« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 18:44 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:58 by tickstock »

Shelma1

« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 20:09 »
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Is it just me or is anyone else having a back-to-back Worst Month in two years as well?




How do you know until PP sales are in? November could turn out to be great. I'm hoping my November turns out like my October.


ShadySue

« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 20:22 »
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My graph is totally different to yours:


My graph is different to yours, but the ups and downs of the blue bits are similar:




I think the OP was only meaning the blue bits, i.e. sales directly out of iStockphoto.

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2013, 20:25 »
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I think the OP was only meaning the blue bits, i.e. sales directly out of iStockphoto.

Exactly.

« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 23:16 »
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I think the OP was only meaning the blue bits, i.e. sales directly out of iStockphoto.

Exactly.

hi,I find most of your files on IS are set to 1 credit, so your IS sales commissions might be lower than PP sales?right? :-\

mlwinphoto

« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 00:34 »
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Gotta wait until the Getty sales are entered but November was probably a BME and December probably about the same as last year.  Bring on the New Year, I think it's going to be a good one!

Atta way, Tick.

All my images are in Main and selling for peanuts and selling rarely at that.  According to Lobo there will be no chance of solid performing Main images moving upward in the collections in the forseable future.  So, the present and future are bleak for me at iS.  I don't give a rip, however, as things are going well elsewhere.
Too bad we can't upload directly to the PP; I'd drop iS in a heartbeat.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 16:12 by mlwinphoto »

« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 00:43 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:58 by tickstock »

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 02:55 »
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I cannot say as I do not see the PP sales   >:(

What about your iStock-only sales bar (the blue one)?

As money is money and as a "green dollar" or a "violet dollar" is still a dollar (for my wallet and my bank) like any "blue dollar", I don't consider only the blue bars on iStock, but bars of every color.

Btw my blue bars are generally growing

Mactrunk

« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 03:53 »
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@mlwinphoto: Little off topic but just have to say your landscape images are amazing!!! Love your work!

ShadySue

« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 06:24 »
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I think the OP was only meaning the blue bits, i.e. sales directly out of iStockphoto.

Exactly.

hi,I find most of your files on IS are set to 1 credit, so your IS sales commissions might be lower than PP sales?right? :-\

All indie files are priced the same, XS at 1 credit - 7 credits for XXXL

« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 06:30 »
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Today's 20th of December and still no PP November sales... makes me worry a bit...

ShadySue

« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 06:35 »
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Today's 20th of December and still no PP November sales... makes me worry a bit...

IIRC, they only 'guarantee' to get your PP payments to you by the end of the month, but even that 'guarantee' is flexible ...

Added: "When do I get paid and how can I see what I've sold?
Partner Program royalties are paid once a month and are paid a month after the sales occur. For example, files sold on the PP sites in January would be reported on iStock towards the end of February and so on for subsequent months. The sales reports usually appear over one or more weekends but there is no set day for royalty pay outs to begin."

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=355606&messageid=6926088
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 06:37 by ShadySue »

« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 06:49 »
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Today's 20th of December and still no PP November sales... makes me worry a bit...
StockXpert was posted two days ago, this is usually a sign that IS payment is just around the corner - maybe the elves are working overtime this weekend?  ;D

« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 06:52 »
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Lately, they seem the alternate GI and PP payment dates. If one month PP comes first, next month GI comes first(and viceversa). If that's true,  for November sales GI will come earlier.

ShadySue

« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 06:59 »
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I cannot say as I do not see the PP sales   >:(

What about your iStock-only sales bar (the blue one)?

As money is money and as a "green dollar" or a "violet dollar" is still a dollar (for my wallet and my bank) like any "blue dollar", I don't consider only the blue bars on iStock, but bars of every color.

Btw my blue bars are generally growing

I take your point, but I think it's worth keeping a watch on the blue bars, as the others were touted as 'adding to your iStock income', not 'shoring it up'.

« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 10:48 »
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Grim month. However, if October was a trendsetter for the PP then I should see my Christmas stocking filled with more goodies than last year.

Must remember to put a mince pie and a noggin out for Santa just in case.

mlwinphoto

« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 10:49 »
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@mlwinphoto: Little off topic but just have to say your landscape images are amazing!!! Love your work!

OT is appreciated.....thanks.   :)

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 11:38 »
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I cannot say as I do not see the PP sales   >:(

What about your iStock-only sales bar (the blue one)?

As money is money and as a "green dollar" or a "violet dollar" is still a dollar (for my wallet and my bank) like any "blue dollar", I don't consider only the blue bars on iStock, but bars of every color.

Btw my blue bars are generally growing

I take your point, but I think it's worth keeping a watch on the blue bars, as the others were touted as 'adding to your iStock income', not 'shoring it up'.

Yes, I agree with you, but when I have to pay the bill to the plumber he does not care if this money comes from regular, pp or Getty sales :D

And this last months I have the impression that the pp sales are more "regular" than the regular ones.

« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2013, 11:45 »
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this month so far: 16.84$
Dec 12: 105.68$
Dec 11: 101.6$
Dec 10: 69.08$
Dec 09: 70.31$

very happy with iStock ;)

mlwinphoto

« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2013, 12:04 »
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this month so far: 16.84$
Dec 12: 105.68$
Dec 11: 101.6$
Dec 10: 69.08$
Dec 09: 70.31$

very happy with iStock ;)

You've more than doubled what I've done so far....add me to the 'very happy with iStock' list...

Machine Gun Mark

  • *everything is stock*
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2013, 12:47 »
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Things are going well on my end.

I'm projecting a 20-25% increase in total royalties for 2013. (if PP and GI come in just average for NOV and DEC)

I surpassed total 2012 royalties quite some time ago.

I can't change any of the bs and/or politics at stock. All I can do is shoot, upload, repeat. (although I've taken the month of December off to relax, catch up on reading, enjoy the holidays, etc.)

Hope we all have a great 2014! :D




« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2013, 13:03 »
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I wasn't expecting a pick up but the last 3 months were higher than last year.  Dec is already higher than nov.   Way higher than 2012.

Most of my files were moved to the higher collections and I am seeing a big advantage.  The main collection is worthless.   To many new files swamping that collection.  I don't see how the are going to manage that collection properly since new files are not selling and have no way to move up.  If sales continue like 2013  in 2014 I will be very happy.


« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2013, 05:19 »
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Are PP sales stats late going out this month for istock or have mine gone from very healthy for the past few months to 0 for November - anyone else still waiting or should I cancel the turkey order just in case?.

Neil

ShadySue

« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2013, 05:26 »
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Going out later. Getty sales have been reported first this month.
"Partner Program royalties are paid once a month and are paid a month after the sales occur. For example, files sold on the PP sites in January would be reported on iStock towards the end of February and so on for subsequent months. The sales reports usually appear over one or more weekends but there is no set day for royalty pay outs to begin."
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=355606&messageid=6926088
« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 22:22 by ShadySue »

KB

« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2013, 11:50 »
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The main collection is worthless.   To many new files swamping that collection.  I don't see how the are going to manage that collection properly since new files are not selling and have no way to move up.  If sales continue like 2013  in 2014 I will be very happy.
Your statement seems to imply that most buyers search by price point. I don't know if that's accurate or not. If it is not, then the "too many new files" are swamping the ENTIRE database, not just the Main collection. If it is true, then eventually most buyers will realize they can buy what they want for practically nothing.

I'm extremely pessimistic for 2014 sales for IS exclusives, and for 2014 income for IS independents, unless there's a major change (yet again) at IS.

« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2013, 14:55 »
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I pretty much ignored my exclusive portfolio on istock for a couple of years, but the past 4 months my sales have taken off. Gone up enough that I am shooting and uploading again. Everything that's going into my portfolio is Signature and above. But still no views or downloads on recent uploads. Hoping they tweak the search to expose more of the new stuff for exclusives. Anyway, the last three months have been my best sales and income for a few years!

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2013, 08:22 »
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Kind of stupid they couldn't run the PP sales this weekend so we could cash out our money before the end of the year...

« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2013, 08:31 »
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Stupid for who? - the longer they keep our money the better for IStock

Uncle Pete

« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2013, 17:24 »
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Today's 20th of December and still no PP November sales... makes me worry a bit...
and NeilL also.

I have my Purple GI sales, the IS blue bars as well, no Green PP reported yet.

I'm an audio exclusive and that's the only material that sells on GI. So we can assume someone who's an exclusive in one area and not another will have the same situation.

Income dollars are up this year, but RPD is down. No complaints, they make sales, I make money. Let me classify my view as "Low Expectations" and I don't see anything changing.

Growth has slowed or stopped for most places. Some will be shutting down soon. IS will be around and paying something, probably on a level basis, consistent. Overall, stability is a positive as the market sorts out and Microstock growth in general, goes flat.
 

« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2013, 21:58 »
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Stupid for who? - the longer they keep our money the better for IStock

It would not surprise me one bit to learn that the delay was intentional so they would not have to make as many payouts at the end of the year.

ShadySue

« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2013, 22:01 »
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Stupid for who? - the longer they keep our money the better for IStock

It would not surprise me one bit to learn that the delay was intentional so they would not have to make as many payouts at the end of the year.
They've still got eight days to go, and they've paid out Getty for last month.

« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2013, 23:49 »
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Stupid for who? - the longer they keep our money the better for IStock

It would not surprise me one bit to learn that the delay was intentional so they would not have to make as many payouts at the end of the year.
They've still got eight days to go, and they've paid out Getty for last month.

Eight days to go in December, but Monday the 23rd is the cut-off date for Payment on the 30th through PayPal.  If you needed the November PP amounts to hit your account by the Monday deadline in order to have enough to request payout you're pretty much out of luck if you wanted the money in 2013  The next payouts will be in 2014.

Ron

« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2013, 03:43 »
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Stupid for who? - the longer they keep our money the better for IStock

It would not surprise me one bit to learn that the delay was intentional so they would not have to make as many payouts at the end of the year.
If thats the case, it just shows that Istock is the Scrooge of Christmas.

Dickens refers to Scrooge as "... a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous old sinner!

« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2013, 04:40 »
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Reassuring words from Kelvin over at the IS-forums:

"The PP payout for November should happen before the end of the month, as usual. If we get any indication that this will not happen, then we will post in the forum to let everyone know."

I'm really curious how something, that is essentially a real-time transaction can take between four and eight weeks to complete - and then still be open to interpretation whether there are indications of failure or not :o

« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2013, 04:50 »
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My PP sales are still hidden  8)

"The PP payout for November should happen before the end of the month, "

Which month?

Anyway, Mery X-mas to all who are still waiting November PP.

Ron

« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2013, 04:59 »
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Reassuring words from Kelvin over at the IS-forums:

"The PP payout for November should happen before the end of the month, as usual. If we get any indication that this will not happen, then we will post in the forum to let everyone know."

I'm really curious how something, that is essentially a real-time transaction can take between four and eight weeks to complete - and then still be open to interpretation whether there are indications of failure or not :o
Yeah. Its almost as if the PP reporting is powered like this

My hamster can not manage to stop spinning in his wheel



That also means no pay out for some in December.

« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2013, 09:22 »
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Dear IS,

You'd think by now we would shut up about the PP and just accept that it may or may not be paid by month end and if it isn't then you'll let us know something we already know.

Its just that these days I rely on the generosity of your PP buyers to make it worthwhile continuing our sordid relationship.

Perhaps instead of opting out of the PP it could be arranged for me to submit direct to the partner sites and opt out of you?

Merry Christmas



 

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