Author Topic: November and December Drop in sales (Read 9878 times)

Sky · « **on:** December 15, 2016, 05:07 »

Hi Everyone
Sales have decreased in the last month and this month.
Are there any people who notice this?
Is everything normal to you? $:-\$

pixmicro · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2016, 05:36 »

Hi,
yes sales were pretty good in november, but december is dropping in volume and prices, like each year, especially in 2nd part of month.
Got to be patient until january 15th a minima...
best

Bauman · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2016, 05:37 »

Yes ... the slices of the cake are always smaller ...

My november was average thanks to a high rpd but december is down ...

Artist · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2016, 05:46 »

November was great, december is little lower than previous month but thats ok.

sigalavaca · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2016, 07:24 »

my November was really good when compared to last year`s November. December so far seems worse, and during holidays it will go down even more as I don`t have any Xmas thematic pictures.

In previous years I had big increase in editorials during the last week, I am not completely sure why but could be related to agencies, newspapers, websites burning what`s left in their 2016 budget and stocking for 2017

mboy · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2016, 07:45 »

December is good for me, my best month so far (joined in August)

Sky · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2016, 08:59 »

Thanks for comments

angelawaye · « **Reply #7 on:** December 15, 2016, 10:56 »

November and December are very bad - December being much worse... I am debating to go with Macro at this rate.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #8 on:** December 15, 2016, 13:18 »

Dec 15 2016 is half of Dec 2015 which is half a month vs whole month. I'll have to wait because end of the month is usually slow. But as it looks right now. No change and right around average.

Update. Dec 16 2016 I just passed Dec 2015 total earnings. I was wrong. I expected sales to drop for the rest of the month.

gyllens · « **Reply #9 on:** December 15, 2016, 13:29 »

Quote from: angelawaye on December 15, 2016, 10:56

November and December are very bad - December being much worse... I am debating to go with Macro at this rate.

Do! with the right agencies its a completely different story. Joined micro from the start in 2004 and have had some great times and earnings but now I feel they have played their game to the end and what remains are the leftovers. The reason all play around with the search is probably because they know its come to an end and they want to earn as much as possible before the crash.

KuriousKat · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2016, 13:30 »

I am on Target to be about 60% down on last December.

Whatever I do, nothing seams to bring up my sales. I have noticed 2 distinct drops this year, starting end June/early July with another around the 22 November. I can only surmise that I am a victim of search changes that haven't gone my way but, if it continues, I will have to make some significant changes in 2017, as I can't continue with the level of work involved for the minimal returns.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2016, 23:59 »

I got $170 in November which was my best month yet on SS, and I'm on $130 already for December. Maybe space stuff is popular at Christmas... snow, turkeys, mistletoe, spaceships, nebulae formation etc etc.

LDV81 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2016, 06:50 »

Quote from: gyllens on December 15, 2016, 13:29

Do! with the right agencies its a completely different story. Joined micro from the start in 2004 and have had some great times and earnings but now I feel they have played their game to the end and what remains are the leftovers. The reason all play around with the search is probably because they know its come to an end and they want to earn as much as possible before the crash.

What crash? The micros won't crash anytime soon, but most contributors will crash quite soon.

The root of the problem is obvious: too many contributors producing too many (decent) files.
It will be my first year since 2008 when I earned less than in the previous year, and the prospects for the next year are bleak.

In 2008 SS sold almost all files that I sent them and people were shocked when 50K files were being added every week. I'm afraid it's Game Over for most of us quite soon. Even Stockmarketer seems to have disappeared from MSG. He must have found greener pastures, I suppose.

zsooofija · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2016, 11:06 »

Quote from: Sky on December 15, 2016, 05:07

Hi Everyone
Sales have decreased in the last month and this month.
Are there any people who notice this?
Is everything normal to you? $:-\$

For me November was worst month ever (since 2010) and December is not better either. My sales dropped to about half these last months. So, I don't think you are alone, but that is not much help, I know.

JaenStock · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2016, 13:03 »

About 40% lower than las year... but only uploaded 50 photos to a 2700 images port. Im working in macro.

Blackmac · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2016, 19:01 »

for the first time in November shutterstock it was surpassed in sales by other agencies. The same is happening in December. We have to start worrying?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2016, 03:09 »

What LDV81 said... a lot of agencies are going from strength to strength, it's just that there are so many more people, uploading more and more files, so our slice of the pie gets smaller.

What was on that recent SS earnings report... 69% more files than last year? If you're starting out in stock then it's probably pretty easy to upload 69% more files in your second year than you did in your first, and maybe your third or fourth, but let's say you've been doing it for ten years and you've uploaded 1000 files a year. So in 2015 you have 10000 files. To match the 69% increase you're going to have to upload 6900 files in 2016. 11,600 in 2017. 19,700 in 2018 and so on and so forth.

Meanwhile, their sales went up about 20% from last year, so it's not like they'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

All I can advise is to keep on uploading more stuff than you did in the previous year, and make sure the stuff you upload this year is better than the stuff you uploaded last year. Otherwise, it's pretty inevitable that people's income will start to drop over time. Easier said than done, but hey ho.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2016, 03:12 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on December 17, 2016, 03:09

What LDV81 said... a lot of agencies are going from strength to strength, it's just that there are so many more people, uploading more and more files, so our slice of the pie gets smaller.

What was on that recent SS earnings report... 69% more files than last year? If you're starting out in stock then it's probably pretty easy to upload 69% more files in your second year than you did in your first, and maybe your third or fourth, but let's say you've been doing it for ten years and you've uploaded 1000 files a year. So in 2015 you have 10000 files. To match the 69% increase you're going to have to upload 6900 files in 2016. 11,600 in 2017. 19,700 in 2018 and so on and so forth.

Meanwhile, their sales went up about 20% from last year, so it's not like they'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

All I can advise is to keep on uploading more stuff than you did in the previous year, and make sure the stuff you upload this year is better than the stuff you uploaded last year. Otherwise, it's pretty inevitable that people's income will start to drop over time. Easier said than done, but hey ho.

and also if you stop uploading then don't be surprised if your sales drop

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2016, 04:12 »

Absolutely!

Fredex · « **Reply #19 on:** December 21, 2016, 06:41 »

This November was actually slightly lower than last year even though the number of downloads was 30% higher. The number of on demand sales were lower and SOD sales made up a stunning 0.49% of the total compared to the previous months where SOD was between 20 and 40% of the total. That sounded like a weather forecast didn't it?

SOD seem to have dried up equally in December and with the low sales it would probably be the worst month since the start of the year if not for an inexplicably large 4K sale.

Other sites didn't suffer so bad in November so the total isn't dramatically lower than normal but now December is looking to be pretty poor for them. Should have spent more time doing Christmas images...

Pauws99 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2016, 06:55 »

I'm actually having a good December but none of my (admittedly rather average) xmas images are selling.

jefftakespics2 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 21, 2016, 07:46 »

November and December nose dived for me to a degree I have not seen before. I have read about the declines and have experienced some gradual decline, but this is the first time I have had sales almost completely stopped. There are a bunch or reasonable popular searches that my images come up right at the top so I cannot blame search. Just lack of sales and almost no ODs, SODs or whatever else they are called.

alexzappa · « **Reply #22 on:** December 21, 2016, 07:52 »

I've experienced an increase in number of sales in December, but only submissions.

I don't know how annual submissions work, but it looks like buyers are buying more just because the expiry date of the submission is near.

relativity · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2016, 08:09 »

november and december are the worst since 2011. with close to 6k images, i've never seen such a huge drop overnight. now by 8pm i have what i had by noon. sales come every 2 hours. my friends who've been on ss since 2010 and 2006 see the same pattern. 6-10k pics in their ports, selling up to 20 a day now.

some new contributors that we referred, with small ports, sell close to our numbers.

another friend with ~6k sees no change (joined later).

for me, december was traditionally good month (BME Dec 2014). august was worst. this year, Dec worst by far, august almost BME. makes no sense.

now, my port is obviously dying. has anyone ever tried to revive a port by uploading more? seems like a waste of time right now. i get 20+ images a day approved lately, nothing sells.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2016, 09:11 »

Quote from: gyllens on December 15, 2016, 13:29

Quote from: angelawaye on December 15, 2016, 10:56
November and December are very bad - December being much worse... I am debating to go with Macro at this rate.

Do! with the right agencies its a completely different story. Joined micro from the start in 2004 and have had some great times and earnings but now I feel they have played their game to the end and what remains are the leftovers. The reason all play around with the search is probably because they know its come to an end and they want to earn as much as possible before the crash.

so right, gyllens!!! as yada3 said, the piece of the pie is small... almost left to nibblers.
the writing on the wall was when ss reduced the entry criterion from 7/10 to 1/10 and the payout limit down to 35 bucks. it's like telling us, don't expect much to give you ppl anymore...
whereas before even $100 payout limit is like payout every month possible,
unlike all the micros to the right of this page, eg dreamstime , big stock, alamyetc ..would take you 200 years to reach payout of $100, LOL

still, ss payout monthly better than anyone to the right, even if it is 35 bucks low.

macro is the only way to go via agency now. and of course, back to selling your own.
without a middle man eating up most of your earning, it is easier to sell at a much lower price.
the trick is to find the market.
i know one old colleague who left micro a couple of years ago, now doing well at ebay selling framed prints of his micro works. he says he won't go back to wasting time on micro, even with ss.

still, i watch adobe... as they did not come into the micro for nothing.
they must have something in mind.

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Author Topic: November and December Drop in sales (Read 9878 times)

Sky

pixmicro

Bauman

Artist

sigalavaca

mboy

Sky

angelawaye

YadaYadaYada

gyllens

KuriousKat

SpaceStockFootage

LDV81

zsooofija

JaenStock

Blackmac

SpaceStockFootage

Pauws99

SpaceStockFootage

Fredex

Pauws99

jefftakespics2

alexzappa

relativity

etudiante_rapide

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