Author Topic: November Statements ready. (Read 4469 times)

Schadenfreude · « **on:** December 18, 2023, 13:34 »

Better than I expected, no complaints.

FHphotography · « **Reply #1 on:** December 18, 2023, 15:28 »

My mouth literally dropped. Never received this kind of sum from them. What is included, some AI bonus

? Where is the catch.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #2 on:** December 18, 2023, 16:11 »

Average month, not poor or great...

synthetick · « **Reply #3 on:** December 18, 2023, 16:22 »

Someone in North Carolina spent $499 on one of my abstract fractal images. (My non-exclusive 15% was $74.85.)

JustAnImage · « **Reply #4 on:** December 18, 2023, 16:26 »

Quote from: synthetick on December 18, 2023, 16:22

Someone in North Carolina spent $499 on one of my abstract fractal images. (My non-exclusive 15% was $74.85.)

Very nice one :-)
I like to do fractals too - do you use Ultra Fractal 6 too?

Michael / MPfoto71

synthetick · « **Reply #5 on:** December 18, 2023, 16:57 »

No, I use Chaotica.

JustAnImage · « **Reply #6 on:** December 18, 2023, 18:04 »

Quote from: synthetick on December 18, 2023, 16:57

No, I use Chaotica.

Thanks for the info - I will try that one for sure, looks nice

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2023, 21:18 »

Best month since Dec 2019. It's strange, I seem to have one standout* month a year, and that month changes apparently randomly.
*compared to my other months in the same year.
Still, it's all the lottery of getting one or more high value sales.

synthetick · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2023, 06:36 »

Gotta say that I find it extraordinary how low the RPD for videos is compared to images. I was an iStock video exclusive in the good old days (I used to earn a full time wage from it back then), and I understand that things have changed in the industry since then. But even so, I can't believe how undervalued video (especially animation) is on iStock/Getty.

sinandogan · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2023, 07:11 »

There are 11350 images in my portfolio. Mostly photos of Türkiye. There are only 16 sales and $5 in earnings this month. I earned only 220 dollars in 1.5 years at istock. This is a very low figure compared to Shutterstock.

cobalt · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2023, 08:38 »

46 dollars in total. And this was carried by two sales, one photo, one video for10 dollars each.

Since I uploaded very little this year I think that is fair. Next year I will make a serious push until I reach 200 dollars a month.

Will I need to add 10k files for that?

odesigns · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2023, 08:57 »

Quote from: cobalt on December 19, 2023, 08:38

Since I uploaded very little this year I think that is fair. Next year I will make a serious push until I reach 200 dollars a month.
Will I need to add 10k files for that?

Depends on the clips. I make about $1K per month on iStock with just over 5K clips.

JustAnImage · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2023, 09:11 »

Quote from: cobalt on December 19, 2023, 08:38

Since I uploaded very little this year I think that is fair. Next year I will make a serious push until I reach 200 dollars a month.

Will I need to add 10k files for that?

I am at about $200 per month average with approx. 2k clips - and my clips are not at a high quality level.

For example this clip https://www.istockphoto.com/de/video/niedrige-winkelansicht-eines-fahrenden-autos-in-die-vorbeifahrenden-b%C3%A4ume-gm1330987881-414256398 had a $76 dollar sale last month, done with a smartphone sitting in a car.

I think a broad variation of topics is just as important as a usable quality - with a top quality you will certainly achieve more high sales.

Orchidpoet · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2023, 10:40 »

Not too good. Only sold 1 clip in the whole month.

cobalt · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2023, 11:03 »

I only have 350 clips and I think I uploaded less than 10 this year. Most clips are over 12 years old.

Also, I find the istock upload system very cumbersome.

This month I sold 5 clips, lowest for 55cents, highest for 9.50.

The 9.50 is unusually high.

Actually reading what is being shared here is actually quite good for non exclusive video these days.

Most of my videos will be going to BB next year, but I still want to have a certain percentage for my direct sales ports.

I wanted to give istock mostly photos, because the returns are a lot better than for video.

But you have me convinced to also upload my direct video sales content to them as well. Maybe once a month as a one day effort.

Overall files have an amazingly long shelf life. I am always impressed how really old photos can still get reliable sales year after year.

For that alone I think istock is a good agency.

eta:

Longterm I think my income will come from Adobe, istock and Blackbox, with some add ons via pond5 and a few other agencies.

When I started uploading seriously again last September I wasn't sure if making a full time income from stock is still possible. But the more I upload and the more interact...it is still very, very possible.

The difference to 10 years ago is that you have a lot less people sharing publicly that they are full time stock artists.

But there are many families with a reliable stock income. If it is well diversified it can be very sustainable.

Must work hard of course, but that is needed with any other job as well.

odesigns · « **Reply #15 on:** December 19, 2023, 13:19 »

Quote from: cobalt on December 19, 2023, 11:03

Longterm I think my income will come from Adobe, istock and Blackbox, with some add ons via pond5 and a few other agencies.

If you participate in BB, can you upload those same clips to iStock and Adobe Stock? I keep my BB submissions in a completely separate folder and those clips don't go anywhere else.

cobalt · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2023, 13:29 »

no, BB content is series exclusive to them and they distribute to pond5 and istock.

So far I was doing around 50% BB, 50% I uploaded myself.

I think I might increase the percentage in favor of bb, especially send all editorial to them.

Longterm I would like to identify clear "themes" that go either exclusive to bb or go to my ports directly.

But this year I did very little video. Next year I will spend more time on that and in the end there will be some balance.

I like them a lot and might get lazy and send everything their way.

But sometimes it just makes sense to keep the photos and the videos together in case a customer wants both.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2024, 05:09 »

December stats are in.

For me very disappointing. I have earned a very similar amount on iStock pretty much every month in 2023, which is unusual as it is. In the past I used to have huge spikes in sales and revenue for Halloween and Christmas, but my December earnings are not different than any other month and only around 1/3 of what I used to earn in December '22.

Roscoe · « **Reply #18 on:** January 19, 2024, 03:57 »

Got a crappy December too. Already expected it, as I took a look on the views and interactions in the content statistics. Only half of what I used to get, and earnings are even less than half. Doesn't look much better when I look at the current situation for January.

iStock/Getty accounted for 17% of my microstock earnings in 2023, which is a small drop in comparison to the 19% in 2022.

Wilm · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2024, 04:23 »

For me, December was the worst month I've ever had at istock - both in terms of downloads and revenue.

synthetick · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2024, 06:11 »

My video sales for December were up 180% compared to November. I haven't looked into it deeply but it may be because I chose to focus on uploading vertical Christmas videos. My image sales were down slightly compared to November, probably because I had dropped off the image uploads while focussing on video uploads.

stocky · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2024, 15:38 »

Terrible month. Half the previous month.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #22 on:** January 20, 2024, 15:37 »

Is it me or DM doesn't display right, Todayis20 shows no thumbs, the Dec. file reports as October? Did Getty adjust the access again?

ShadySue · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2024, 20:10 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 20, 2024, 15:37

Is it me or DM doesn't display right, Todayis20 shows no thumbs, the Dec. file reports as October? Did Getty adjust the access again?

Yeah, they changed it, again.
Apparently they have advised TodayIs20, and we're just waiting for them to have the time to make the necessary adjustments on their site.
Of course, if Getty would just give us decent stats, we wouldn't need external apps.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #24 on:** January 21, 2024, 12:12 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 20, 2024, 20:10

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 20, 2024, 15:37
Is it me or DM doesn't display right, Todayis20 shows no thumbs, the Dec. file reports as October? Did Getty adjust the access again?
Yeah, they changed it, again.
Apparently they have advised TodayIs20, and we're just waiting for them to have the time to make the necessary adjustments on their site.
Of course, if Getty would just give us decent stats, we wouldn't need external apps.

Yes, how is it that individuals can write software to handle stats and our data, and the big multi-million dollar corporations, can't give us useful earnings stats. Adobe is another one, where we can't get image historic earnings, except from an outside creative, or by downloading and making our own database?

But IS is the worst and holds the record for that dishonor.

Wilm · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2024, 10:39 »

Does anyone have any idea why Getty sent me $0.55 today? What is that for?

Wilm · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2024, 10:43 »

Ah, another e-mail arrived.
Pictoright Collective Licensing Payback 2023 H2
What is that?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2024, 12:20 »

Quote from: Wilm on January 23, 2024, 10:43

Ah, another e-mail arrived.
Pictoright Collective Licensing Payback 2023 H2
What is that?

Oh just can't wait, maybe I got 55¢ for AI licensing? Or a partner site? Tell me if you find out.

https://pictoright.nl/en/

Wilm · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2024, 12:49 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 23, 2024, 12:20

Quote from: Wilm on January 23, 2024, 10:43
Ah, another e-mail arrived.
Pictoright Collective Licensing Payback 2023 H2
What is that?

Oh just can't wait, maybe I got 55¢ for AI licensing? Or a partner site? Tell me if you find out.

https://pictoright.nl/en/

Completely intransparent once more!

Roscoe · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2024, 01:46 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 23, 2024, 12:20

Quote from: Wilm on January 23, 2024, 10:43
Ah, another e-mail arrived.
Pictoright Collective Licensing Payback 2023 H2
What is that?

Oh just can't wait, maybe I got 55¢ for AI licensing? Or a partner site? Tell me if you find out.

https://pictoright.nl/en/

From their website:

Pictoright is the copyright organization for visual creators in the Netherlands: illustrators, visual artists, graphic designers, photographers, architects and other image creators (or their heirs). These visual creators can join Pictoright free of charge to claim the collective fees to which they are entitled. In addition, they can commission Pictoright to protect their copyright and collect royalties for the use of their work.

Pictoright is a non-profit foundation designated by the government to collect and distribute collective rights. Pictoright also exploits individual copyrights, offers legal assistance, acts as an inquiry point and is committed to improving the legal standing of image creators.

Pictoright represents the interests of visual authors by exercising, promoting and protecting copyrights. We do this by:

distributing collective remuneration to all visual authors who are entitled to it;
exploiting the individual copyrights of affiliated visual authors;
acting legally on behalf of affiliated visual authors;
informing creators and users by means of talks and publications;
supporting organizations or activities that strengthen the social and cultural position of visual authors.
The exercise and enforcement of copyright is essential for visual creators. Pictoright supports visual authors in this regard. It strives for maximum compensation for visual creators and for an optimal distribution of this compensation among as many copyright holders as possible.

As an authoritative copyright representative, Pictoright is transparent, flexible, involved, service-driven and focused on the market. All income and expenses are fully accounted for. Pictoright is supervised in this by the government ( College van Toezicht Auteursrechten, CvTA). The Board, management and staff feel responsible for the entire organization and for the copyright interests of all visual creators.

Pictoright is the copyright organization for visual creators; There are similar organizations for writers and writing journalists (Lira), composers (Buma Stemra) and publishers (Pro). Pictoright frequently acts in cooperation with these organizations to represent the interests of all copyright holders in the Netherlands. We also reach agreements on how to distribute the remuneration. We act in line with the requirements set by the CBO Quality Mark.

Pictoright has also made arrangements with equivalent organizations abroad so that the copyright of visual creators is maintained across borders. Anyone who joins us for for the full copyright management is assured of copyright income and protection in more than thirty countries, including England, Germany, France, Belgium and the US.

I don't know how to interpret this, but it seems that Getty managed to get a flat fee from the Dutch copyright organization for the use of their images, and distributed a commission to the contributors. If that would be the case, it would be weird, because Getty provides licenses, so no need to pay twice. On the other hand, they maybe used the argumentation that there's a lot of fraud and misuse, and therefore received a flat fee compensation. I don't know.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #30 on:** February 16, 2024, 14:08 »

January statements are available (or at least I just noticed them)

Devotio777 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 16, 2024, 16:04 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on February 16, 2024, 14:08

January statements are available (or at least I just noticed them)

2nd best month ever, making my January little bit less gloomy (shutterstock was atrocious).

Wilm · « **Reply #32 on:** February 16, 2024, 18:44 »

It was a good month for me at istock. Almost as much as in 2022 and significantly more than in January 2023. And almost exactly four times as much revenue as Shutterstock in January.

Faustvasea · « **Reply #33 on:** February 16, 2024, 18:52 »

I've made a bit more money on AS, but this month pulled the trigger and closed my contributor account with Ai
. I will focus on agencies that support FTP uploads.

JustAnImage · « **Reply #34 on:** February 16, 2024, 19:37 »

January 2024 for me was with some random stats:
- about 30% below average
- 65% from videos, 35 from photos
- 42% of Shutterstock income
- 13% of AdobeStock income (because of AI images in my case)
- 8% higher than 123rf
- 12% higher than Vecteezy

Pacesetter · « **Reply #35 on:** February 16, 2024, 20:20 »

Not a great month but better than last month and a 9% increase on January 2023, but that's with a comparatively lot more content uploads over the past year. RPD for combined photos and videos was 1.998989898989....

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2024, 01:19 »

Again, almost the same (mediocre) amount as every other month for the previous year.
Really don't get it. iStock didn't use to be like this in the past. There used to be severl hundred of $ differences between a good and a bad month, now my earnings only differ by +/- $30 each month.

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