Author Topic: Creative Networks What´s the point (Read 31857 times)

GeoPappas · « **Reply #50 on:** January 28, 2007, 06:58 »

Quote from: Freezingpictures on January 28, 2007, 06:24

I would think the best system would be, if only the admins and the reviewers can rate images. And that they should not rate images only fives, but 1-5 and 3 is neutral like an image which never has been rated. According to that they should also show up in the best match search.
And every reviewer should do a rating after he reviewed the image.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Ratings are totally subjective. You could have ten reviewers look at the same image and give vastly different ratings. Some people love abstracts and some people hate them. Some people love people shots and some people hate them.

Having reviewers rating images would also slow down the queue and increase the # of images in the queue. You think the queue is bad now...

If an image is passing inspection, then it is being rated in a way. Every image on IS has already passed lots of criteria. So every image up there is supposed to be the best of the best.

To have ratings affect sales is a very bad thing...

If a stock site is going to implement a ratings system, then it should only be viewable by the artist. This way comments could be made on an image without affecting sales.

I would rate a lot more images if it was a private system (where only the artist could see the rating) and it wasn't linked to sales. This way I could give honest critique without feeling that retribution would be coming from an irate artist.

Just a thought not a sermon...

snem · « **Reply #51 on:** January 28, 2007, 07:04 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on January 28, 2007, 06:58

This way I could give honest critique without feeling that retribution would be coming from an irate artist.

This is just what happened to me...

mjp · « **Reply #52 on:** January 28, 2007, 07:59 »

Hi,

If you want to add me your CN you are welcomed to do so. My user name under Istock is : mjp

br, Mikko P.

Bateleur · « **Reply #53 on:** January 28, 2007, 09:56 »

Hi all,

I've approached everyone who's posted an invite to join their CN, taking it up. Hope you'll accept me

If anyone else wants to add me to their CN, my user name on iStock is 'kalulu'.

Cheers

Tim Markley · « **Reply #54 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:03 »

Thank you all for the invitations to join CN's I added all who asked. Now I encourage you all to review and make comments on photos. I have started to do so. I also maintain several light box galleries. If you have photos that would make good additions let me know.

berryspun · « **Reply #55 on:** January 28, 2007, 13:18 »

Quote from: leaf on January 28, 2007, 05:28

yes, I hardly think that rating fights are 'an Italian thing'. Perhaps what ying yang meant was that this apparent fight between the three of you was something internal between the three of you for some reason... making it italian.

That was my feeling too.

I just remember that a few months ago I chose a DT picture from Alfiofer for one of my collections, and I had a nice exchange with him. I hope that I didn't get him in trouble because of the 1 star ratings he gave to snem. If this could be solve amicably, that would be great.

snem · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2007, 13:28 »

Just to add something to CN discussion and to "rating exchange" organization, take a look to the portfolio pf this user http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=597575.
Order by newest first and note the straordinary number of ratings from his CN... I hope Istockphoto do something about the rating system, if not, we are just late to organize ourself

yingyang0 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2007, 15:07 »

Quote from: leaf on January 28, 2007, 05:28

yes, I hardly think that rating fights are 'an Italian thing'. Perhaps what ying yang meant was that this apparent fight between the three of you was something internal between the three of you for some reason... making it italian.

nonetheless, I also think it must be a problem for istock. Rating fights, cliques giving only 5's to ALL each others images, ...

not sure what the solution would be though.

Sorry, what I meant was that it was a ratings fight between two Italian photographers. It wasn't a a racial thing (I'm an Italian-American). If it had been between two Canadians I would have said it was a "Canadian thing" (is Canadian a race?).

Personally I give a 5 or nothing at all. That way no one will come after me.

PenelopeB · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2007, 17:04 »

Being Canadian is a "dogs breakfast" these days with the immigration here, "every handfuls' a whole new ball game"! heheh (I'm 5th gen Canadian/American)

(the above is not meant to be/sound racist in anyway, just that a "Canadian" now is every race, every religion, every person - which is GREAT in my opinion)

KiwiRob · « **Reply #59 on:** February 23, 2007, 08:42 »

hi guys, i'm a big fan of the creative network and am an enthuastic reviewer, so if anyone wants to invite me to your networks please do. BTW since I started getting serious about creative networks my sales have increased quite nicely. My user name is KiwiRob.

ludesal · « **Reply #60 on:** February 27, 2007, 09:27 »

I think the rating thing is another thing to help create the istock addiction some have, same as the CN, the Steel Cage, etc...

If you want to add me in to your CN i have the same user name

le_cyclope · « **Reply #61 on:** February 27, 2007, 12:01 »

I'm a littlebit late on this tread but I really like the idea of a MicrostockGroup community within iStock...

So here i am, feel free to invite me in your CN!

ID is le_cyclope

mattb · « **Reply #62 on:** February 27, 2007, 15:00 »

I'm a little late to this thread, but I got everybody added.

I have really noticed an increase in sales since my CN finally got some members. I don't have that many ratings but I definitely get more sales from my rated images.

berryspun · « **Reply #63 on:** March 11, 2007, 13:27 »

Since this thread started quite a few people responded to this CN group. Very inspiring.

I also noticed that some members were adding some five star ratings to the newly approved pictures. Wow! thanks! Now I understand better how the CN can be very dynamic and fruitful.

Being new to the whole CN process, I just discovered a few days ago that there was a link for "New Uploads by Members" under the CN tab. I wish that they could show the pictures chronologically rather than randomly, but it is still a good help for finding new pictures. I may have missed some photographers because of that.

The idea, as I understand it, is to support each other by rating ONLY the images we like with a 5-star, so that when there is a search the image wouldn't be buried.

Also, for the photographers who would like to join, here are below the names of the people participating in this MSG CN. Some are still guests on this forum. Rather than wait for being invited, invite them to be part of your CN, and you'll be automatically added to theirs if they accept. Sure it does takes time to go through everyone's portfolio, but I see it as a win-win situation...

Leaf, maybe you'll find a way to make the MSG CN more functional on this forum rather than to go through this thread? You seem to be a very creative person.

Updated MSG CN list:

Area Photography
Beisea
Berryspun
Coldimages
Digiology
epixx
GeoPappas
jacus
Jakich
Kalulu
KiwiRob
latex
leaf
le_cyclope
linearcurves
madelaide
mattbaker
Mellimage
MiguelAngeloSilva
mjp
Opla
peilin75
PenelopeB
phildate
phototerry
pixelbrat
romkaz
snem
tdoes
topshotUK
tsmarkley
Whaldener
yingyang0

Greg Boiarsky · « **Reply #64 on:** March 11, 2007, 13:32 »

Anybody on this list would be welcome to add me (and me add them) as a member their CN.

Quote from: berryspun on March 11, 2007, 13:27

Since this thread started quite a few people responded to this CN group. Very inspiring.

I also noticed that some members were adding some five star ratings to the newly approved pictures. Wow! thanks! Now I understand better how the CN can be very dynamic and fruitful.

Being new to the whole CN process, I just discovered a few days ago that there was a link for "New Uploads by Members" under the CN tab. I wish that they could show the pictures chronologically rather than randomly, but it is still a good help for finding new pictures. I may have missed some photographers because of that.

The idea, as I understand it, is to support each other by rating ONLY the images we like with a 5-star, so that when there is a search the image wouldn't be buried.

Also, for the photographers who would like to join, here are below the names of the people participating in this MSG CN. Some are still guests on this forum. Rather than wait for being invited, invite them to be part of your CN, and you'll be automatically added to theirs if they accept. Sure it does takes time to go through everyone's portfolio, but I see it as a win-win situation...

Leaf, maybe you'll find a way to make the MSG CN more functional on this forum rather than to go through this thread? You seem to be a very creative person.

Updated MSG CN list:

Area Photography
Beisea
Berryspun
Coldimages
Digiology
epixx
GeoPappas
jacus
Jakich
Kalulu
KiwiRob
latex
leaf
le_cyclope
linearcurves
madelaide
mattbaker
Mellimage
MiguelAngeloSilva
mjp
Opla
peilin75
PenelopeB
phildate
phototerry
pixelbrat
romkaz
snem
tdoes
topshotUK
tsmarkley
Whaldener
yingyang0

yingyang0 · « **Reply #65 on:** March 11, 2007, 13:40 »

Well there is a problem professorgb. If you're professorgb on iStock then you're not accepting creative network members right now.

Greg Boiarsky · « **Reply #66 on:** March 11, 2007, 15:16 »

I didn't know my defaults had been changed. I've been adding members individually, and it hasn't been a problem.

The problem should be fixed--let me know if it's still not working.

Quote from: yingyang0 on March 11, 2007, 13:40

Well there is a problem professorgb. If you're professorgb on iStock then you're not accepting creative network members right now.

sim · « **Reply #67 on:** March 11, 2007, 16:28 »

I like the idea of a MSG creative network. If anyone would like to add me to their CN my IS user id is stu99, and I will add you to mine.

jacus · « **Reply #68 on:** March 12, 2007, 07:06 »

It would be more logical (and faster) than a new member add the old one. You have the complete CN list above.

scrappinstacy · « **Reply #69 on:** March 12, 2007, 19:12 »

Feel free to add me also to your CN. Same user name as the one I'm using here. Thanks!

kosmikkreeper · « **Reply #70 on:** March 12, 2007, 19:37 »

if anybody would like to add me, I'll add you back!

I'm yanc.

PenelopeB · « **Reply #71 on:** March 12, 2007, 20:21 »

I like to add comments to new pictures, because I don't want to rate every single picture that someone uploads in my CN just because it is new, kinda diminishes the "5" effect in my opinion.

The "5" should be saved for pictures I think are "fabulous" or give me the "wow" factor. I really like it when people leave comments. I think it is interesting to read what they say and encouraging also.

Just out of curiousity, does a comment help in the search option or just a rating?

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ratings and that they help me get more downloads, but I would like to get a good rating because that shot deserves it.

jmho

yingyang0 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 12, 2007, 20:25 »

Quote from: PenelopeB on March 12, 2007, 20:21

Just out of curiousity, does a comment help in the search option or just a rating?

Comments don't help in the search algorithm and from what I've seen only the first "5" rating makes a difference. Any subsiquent ratings, so long as they aren't below a 5, don't really effect the search results.

marcopolo · « **Reply #73 on:** March 14, 2007, 17:14 »

I was just looking at my portfolio in best match again, it seems that IStock very recently changed it so that ratings now mean little to nothing. An image of mine that was getting many recent downloads but did not have a rating was suddently in front of my over 1000 image portfolio. What inspired me to check my best match today is that my sales have suddenly taken a dump on IS, especially vectors. Sales are about 15% of normal today and no vector downloads. But then alot of my older images don't have any ratings at all, so I would think if ratings no longer counted those sales would pick up. don't know what to think.

Tim Markley · « **Reply #74 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:26 »

I got to say that I have enjoyed looking at the new photo's on the CN tab. I usually go the tab for new photos for cn members. There is some great work coming through.

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Author Topic: Creative Networks What´s the point (Read 31857 times)

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