Author Topic: doubts about LO (Read 45778 times)

madelaide · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2007, 17:01 »

Quote from: melking on November 18, 2007, 15:15

the site is so slow!!!!! I just cannot take it to look for photos on here and I just give up!

Funny, I don't find LO particularly slow. Is it in any special aspect, like searches? On the other hand, IS is slow for me when I open an image. The page loads with all the info, but the image takes years to load.

Regards,
Adelaide

a.k.a.-tom · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2007, 16:46 »

Quote from: madelaide on November 18, 2007, 17:01

Quote from: melking on November 18, 2007, 15:15
the site is so slow!!!!! I just cannot take it to look for photos on here and I just give up!

Funny, I don't find LO particularly slow. Is it in any special aspect, like searches? On the other hand, IS is slow for me when I open an image. The page loads with all the info, but the image takes years to load.

Regards,
Adelaide

Slow for me too.. I just left there before coming here today.. I was trying to comment on a few pictures. It was taking so long..... I stopped. My time is too valuable. I've got a kick-butt machine here that speeds my fanny around the web at a touch of the mouse! I've got highspeed broadband... but LO really drags somedays, today was one of them.

I'm still hanging on a bit more... I've been hanging on for over a year now.... I can give it a little more time.... but I fear that I am day by day falling off the LO map. The same portfolio is bringing me cash out after cash out elsewhere. Of the agencies that I've been with for over a year... I have had repeated cashouts at all except LO and 123rf.... and I can't complain about 123 as I only have about 50-60 pix there.

I'm hanging on....... but it may be all in vain. At this rate, I'll never get a sideshow and I may never reach payout in my life..... and views on all the work submitted in the last couple months are ..in some cases, still zero to two. That doesn't even account for my mother looking at them...
Hey, Wait a minute!!! Maybe she isn'.................. LOL

hanging in New Jersey ....

-tom

sharpshot · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2007, 17:21 »

I hope the new version of the site will be faster.

I had my 100th download yesterday and while this is slower than a lot of sites, I am more concerned that they are taking a long time to come up with an improved watermark and they have stuck with the $100 minimum payout.

null · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2007, 21:30 »

Quote from: leaf on November 17, 2007, 19:34

one post has been deleted from this thread which didn't offer much to the conversation except mild name calling and 'egging on' of other members.

IMHO, noticing some vested interests is not name calling. I made it quite clear on another forum I appreciate the LO ~~bouncers~~ reviewers in general a lot, and Kari in particular. I converted my earnings to credits already, and before I leave LO (quite soon) I buy some of her shots I really like, as a small token of appreciation. At least somebody will be happy ;-)

Off-topic: LO isn't slow here at all, but I'm in the Shanghai-Manila time zone so I'm probably checking it in off-peak hours.

leaf · « **Reply #29 on:** November 20, 2007, 02:37 »

just so you know Flemish Dreams it wasn't your post that was a problem, it was the post after yours which was deleted.

null · « **Reply #30 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:43 »

Ah, well. I'm on a lousy 2kbps phone modem in the jungle, and between electricity brownouts in, I prefer to take shots (batteries still work) instead of reading intrigues on forums. Missed that one. If I want a good name-calling fight, I go to my fav political forum :-p

maunger · « **Reply #31 on:** November 20, 2007, 08:08 »

no doubt LO's site is slow right now - and the speed goes up and down sometimes, but I'm having the same problem with IS - it is often just as slow if not slower than LO.

the beta site for LO is running very fast, but it doesn't have the load on it either. Hopefully, the architects know what they're doing

Disclaimer - yes, i am the moderator at LO, but that doesn't make me a blind fool.

souper · « **Reply #32 on:** November 20, 2007, 10:40 »

yeah.... we love that way the site is... friendly and sweet.

but really, we need da green! and they ain't givin' the green

it's sort of becoming a joke.... we laugh about how bad the dl rate is there.

also, reviewing has slowed down.

not to pile it on .... but

digiology · « **Reply #33 on:** November 20, 2007, 11:14 »

Yes the site has become very slow for me also - and I can no longer connect via FTP for some reason.

Pixart · « **Reply #34 on:** November 20, 2007, 11:19 »

They have disabled uploading while they are upgrading. It was in the blog, I can't remember when they expect to enable it again.

digiology · « **Reply #35 on:** November 20, 2007, 11:24 »

Oh OK. I have not read their blog lately (connecting is so painful - i just give up and move on)

I thought maybe I needed to reset my password (which I did and then it timed out on me)

souper · « **Reply #36 on:** November 20, 2007, 13:33 »

we just uploaded 46 images last night?

well actually 2 uploads one had 46 the other had 6.... the 6 got reviewed and are on-line, the 46 are sitting

bryan_luckyoliver · « **Reply #37 on:** November 20, 2007, 14:00 »

Hey guys.

We're in the final stages of moving the site over to the new platform. All submissions have now been halted. We're aiming to make the final switch tomorrow.

Unfortunately our site traffic has also jumped a bunch in the last week, so we're battling more traffic on the old system while we make the transition. Things might be a little rocky over the next day. We apologize for the problems- we're focusing the bulk of our attention to the new site as it will solve most of our aching pains. Thanks for hanging in there.

Bryan

kamera · « **Reply #38 on:** November 23, 2007, 00:00 »

People have been demanding a lower payout minimum on LO for a long time, but the site bosses are playing deaf to this frequent request. Crestock listened to its contributors recently and lowered their payout minimum to 50.-. What's the problem with LO?

null · « **Reply #39 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:03 »

Quote from: kamera on November 23, 2007, 00:00

People have been demanding a lower payout minimum on LO for a long time, but the site bosses are playing deaf to this frequent request.

You didn't mention the better watermark, on which request we were ridiculed. Well it's like that I guess, and it's their site. Love it or leave it, and vote with your feet.
I just sent my cancel account email, so LO is past tense for me from now on. I'm just sorry for this gigantic waste of time. As a token of appreciation to the great reviewers, I download a nice shot of Kari with my converted tokens. Time to move on and charm other snakes.

maunger · « **Reply #40 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:27 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on November 25, 2007, 07:03

You didn't mention the better watermark, on which request we were ridiculed. Well it's like that I guess, and it's their site. Love it or leave it, and vote with your feet.
I just sent my cancel account email, so LO is past tense for me from now on. I'm just sorry for this gigantic waste of time. As a token of appreciation to the great reviewers, I download a nice shot of Kari with my converted tokens. Time to move on and charm other snakes.

I'm sorry you're leaving

I will disagree with you on your claim about the watermark. Not only were you not ridiculed - people of different opinions voiced their differing opinions, but LO has indeed told us they are working on a different watermark... as well as stating that they are considering lowering the payout (but they won't consider it until after the first of the year due to working on current traffic issues).

I've gotten two payouts on LO. I've only gotten one on Fotolia and I've been with them longer. Each site has its own market and customer base and things work differently on each site. Some have more success for individuals than others.

I'm sticking with LO (and yes, i'm forum moderator there) because I love the management and their communication with the contributors and buyers. For me, LO is worth the time.

Again, i'm sorry your experience hasn't been as good and that you're leaving.
Mitch

Kngkyle · « **Reply #41 on:** November 25, 2007, 09:14 »

It seems LO staff are the ones getting tons of sales, but the mere mortals are suffering. 2 payouts compared to only 1 on Fotolia?? Fotolia outsells LO 50:1 for me, and most others I'm sure.

leaf · « **Reply #42 on:** November 25, 2007, 09:27 »

well it would depend on your portfolio on both places. If you have way more images on LO then maybe they might outperform another site. I have gotten a couple payouts on LO but they are far from outperforming any of the big 6 sites. My experience is on par with the average submitter who has taken the earnings poll.... putting LO in around canstock, scanstock, and crestock.

epixx · « **Reply #43 on:** November 25, 2007, 09:40 »

LO is grinding towards a halt for me. haven't had a sale there since 9 October. Actually, I hardly have views there anymore. I've had twice as many views at Snapvillage, still in beta, in two months as at LO in a year.

Actually, my earnings at Featurepics are four times those at LO, and FP isn't exactly the Speedy Gonzales of this business.

The fact that some have good sales there while others have next to none, makes me suspicious. Since I'm selling well at other agencies, the reason must be in their search engine and the way it promotes photos.

Sorry to say, but for me, LO sucks big time.

Karimala · « **Reply #44 on:** November 25, 2007, 11:26 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on November 25, 2007, 07:03

Quote

You didn't mention the better watermark, on which request we were ridiculed. Well it's like that I guess, and it's their site. Love it or leave it, and vote with your feet.
I just sent my cancel account email, so LO is past tense for me from now on. I'm just sorry for this gigantic waste of time. As a token of appreciation to the great reviewers, I download a nice shot of Kari with my converted tokens. Time to move on and charm other snakes.

I'm sorry to see you leave, too, and just wanted to say "thank you" for the nice surprise you left me this morning. :-)

Karimala · « **Reply #45 on:** November 25, 2007, 12:13 »

Something I find very interesting about the smaller sites as a whole is how everyone has such different experiences.

Getting a sale at FP is like pulling teeth for me. I've been with them since February 2006 and have only 20 sales and zero $50 payouts, while others with smaller portfolios and less time there have received multiple payouts. And yet at LO, which I joined in August 2006, I've reached two $100+ payouts and had 26 sales last month alone, while others don't see any sales at all.

These differences in experiences lead me to believe in the simple rule of thumb: that different sites appeal to different buyers, and what sells on one site doesn't necessarily sell on another. Until the smaller sites attract more buyers, the exaggerated differences in our experiences will likely continue.

With only 20 sales at FP, it's difficult for me to gauge what kinds of buyers they attract or what they are buying. But at LO, I can see from my sales they are attracting young creative buyers with a penchant for good food and creating retro/grunge/vintage designs. I'm also guessing most of their buyers are American, too, because ever since the housing/mortgage crisis started making the news, my photos of houses have started selling like crazy. I also sell a decent number of American travel photos at LO.

louoates · « **Reply #46 on:** November 25, 2007, 12:29 »

One thing I can say about LO is that at least the search engine seems to work just fine. Fotolia's is broken, probably beyond repair, at least for older images before V2. And Istock's "Best match" remains a bad joke that in my opinion favors exclusives and shuts out the best images from non-exclusives. In fact the best match sort seems to eliminate many non-exclusive images entirely. I would recommend never using best match there, only "age" or "downloads". Try it yourself with your best keywords on on-exclusive images. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

sharply_done · « **Reply #47 on:** November 25, 2007, 14:08 »

Quote from: Karimala on November 25, 2007, 12:13

...
These differences in experiences lead me to believe in the simple rule of thumb: that different sites appeal to different buyers, and what sells on one site doesn't necessarily sell on another. ...

Although I don't use LO, I can attest to that.
My airplane shots sell well on all sites except for DT - although aircraft make up about 60% of my portfolio there, they contribute less than 25% of my sales. I've implemented a few tactics to place my images higher in the DT search engine, but sales have not improved.

dbvirago · « **Reply #48 on:** November 25, 2007, 15:50 »

For me, FP is strange. Sales aren't great, but steady. Strange part is they sell pix that don't sell at other sites, and sales come in spurts. Nothing for a few days, then heavy traffic for a couple, then repeats

null · « **Reply #49 on:** November 26, 2007, 00:34 »

Quote from: maunger on November 25, 2007, 07:27

I've gotten two payouts on LO. I've only gotten one on Fotolia and I've been with them longer. Each site has its own market and customer base and things work differently on each site. Some have more success for individuals than others.

That's very true and my feeling is also it has to do with the parameters of the search engine. I don't think customers browse further down than page 10 or so. For me LO was rather unlucky, but SS, DT, BigStock and even FP make up largely for it. No need to bash anybody, since this is a small world and we probably meet again sooner or later. I wish them all luck.

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Author Topic: doubts about LO (Read 45778 times)

madelaide

a.k.a.-tom

sharpshot

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leaf

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maunger

souper

digiology

Pixart

digiology

souper

bryan_luckyoliver

kamera

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maunger

Kngkyle

leaf

epixx

Karimala

Karimala

louoates

sharply_done

dbvirago

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