Author Topic: Cash 15 ct (Euro) bonus for top pictures! (Read 33215 times)

FD · « **Reply #25 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:53 »

Quote from: bendicks on April 13, 2010, 20:17

I went ahead and registered and was reading the Photographer Agreement and the following bothers me.......are you giving away your copyright or is it the translation from German.......and what is " droite de suite"

Droit de suite only belongs to the copyright owner, and it means that additional income will go to him, not to the/any agency. Read the Millet case here.
In fact, as stated in their clauses as you quoted them, you will transfer your copyright to them, so of course they are entitled to the droit de suite. In fact, you will commit copyright infringement when you let your images on other sites.
They should clear that out, since they probably copy/pasted the English text from some auction site.

FD · « **Reply #26 on:** April 14, 2010, 01:57 »

Quote from: Michael on April 14, 2010, 01:51

It`s the same like in every other agency. You don`t gives your copyright away, you just gives us photos for selling. We are not interested to hose photographers, zoonar is a fair agency.

In that case you should adapt the English terms on site. Scripta Manent, Verba Volant. I will register anyways, since the original English phrasing apparently is a mistake.

Michael · « **Reply #27 on:** April 14, 2010, 02:06 »

It´s not sure that there is a mistake. We will check these part of the terms of trades, but it`s written by an english chancery. Normally they do a good job. We will see...

sam100 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 14, 2010, 03:38 »

Quote from: Michael on April 14, 2010, 01:51

Important: We are specially interested in photographers with big portfolios. If you have +5000 photos please write to [email protected]. We will make an offer how you can submit these photos very fast and earn up to 750,00 Euro for full uploading ! We offer the same for photographers with +1000 photos...

So actually only about 40 photographers will profit from the offer.?.

Patrick.

Michael · « **Reply #29 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:10 »

Why that ?
Everyone can upload photos at every time. And everyone get up to 500-1000 Photos Submitting Rate per day if the quality is good enough. No one get more than 1000 photos a day so there is a fair chance for everyone.

But we are special interested at microstock-pros. The often have more than 1000-5000 Photos in their portfolio. And for them our offer is more attractive i think. If you have 1000 photos you can earn 150 Euro, if you have 5000 photos you can earn 750 Euro. More photos more money. That`s why i`m think that photographers with large portfolios are more interested to our offer. These means not, that photographers with a small portfolio cannot upload photos and earn the welcome gift.

sam100 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 14, 2010, 04:26 »

Quote from: Michael on April 14, 2010, 04:10

Why that ?
Everyone can upload photos at every time. And everyone get up to 500-1000 Photos Submitting Rate per day if the quality is good enough. No one get more than 1000 photos a day so there is a fair chance for everyone.

But we are special interested at microstock-pros. The often have more than 1000-5000 Photos in their portfolio. And for them our offer is more attractive i think. If you have 1000 photos you can earn 150 Euro, if you have 5000 photos you can earn 750 Euro. More photos more money. That`s why i`m think that photographers with large portfolios are more interested to our offer. These means not, that photographers with a small portfolio cannot upload photos and earn the welcome gift.

Sure, but you express your interest in large portfolios... so my guess is they will get preferential treatment .. thus 200.000/5000 = 40 photographers.

Patrick H.

Phil · « **Reply #31 on:** April 14, 2010, 07:28 »

no top limit? cool, now how fast can I get 4000-5000 images on

Michael Krabs · « **Reply #32 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:05 »

Sometimes the is a second quarter. This is our first test with pre-paid-content-offers...

bendicks · « **Reply #33 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:31 »

Thanks Michael and FD-amateur for the response to my question, appreciate it.

-Don

Eireann · « **Reply #34 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:43 »

I'm going to register.
I agree with Thomas, Klauts, FD and others.

It's not about the bonus, I don't even deserve it. It's about trying to support sites offering a better commission.

Michael, 2 questions please :

1. What about vectors (EPS or JPEG only?)

2. Do we need to register to Polylooks as well? Are these two sites different? Or is one account enough for both?

Thank you,

FD · « **Reply #35 on:** April 14, 2010, 08:50 »

Quote from: patrick1958 on April 14, 2010, 03:38

So actually only about 40 photographers will profit from the offer.?

No, everybody. But the preferential treatment is for 39 photographers and, you. ;-)
I'm just worried about their transfer of copyright clause. You don't need to transfer copyright, you just need to license the images to them for sale, against a commission. All rights stay with you as author, included the droit (not "droite") de suite.

Compare the copyright clauses with those of Dreamstime:

Quote

By uploading his/her Image, the Photographer is warranting that he/she owns all proprietary rights, including copyright, in and to the Image. ...
The Photographer hereby grants Dreamstime a non-exclusive license to post the Image on its web site and to deliver it to its audience, affiliates or other representatives, through different media channels, and further grants Dreamstime and its representatives the right to sublicense the Image to their customers in accordance with the terms of the Dreamstime Royalty-Free License Agreement. ...
The Parties agree that all rights, including title and copyright, in and to the uploaded Images, shall be retained by the Photographer, unless otherwise mentioned by the license agreement.

gubh83 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:13 »

Also waiting the answer about vector, eps, raster...

steheap · « **Reply #37 on:** April 14, 2010, 11:53 »

I've started the upload process - it is really quite simple using their java uploader which allows you to select various folders on your hard drive and it steps through the files in turn. Assuming I understood the instructions, you can upload all the images today, but you don't select the option to offer them via the partner site until after midnight today.

I'm not too sure about pricing yet, although you can easily make bulk amendments to the images on the site after uploading.

There are no categories, which is great!

They also have a referral program. Maybe this is cheeky, but here is mine!

Steve
http://www.zoonar.de/?wid=1207

sharpshot · « **Reply #38 on:** April 14, 2010, 13:54 »

Quote from: Michael on April 14, 2010, 01:51

...Important: We are specially interested in photographers with big portfolios. If you have +5000 photos please write to [email protected]. We will make an offer how you can submit these photos very fast and earn up to 750,00 Euro for full uploading ! We offer the same for photographers with +1000 photos...

I sent an email but haven't had a reply yet. Can you PM me here with the details? I have over 1,000 images and might be interested.

Michael Krabs · « **Reply #39 on:** April 14, 2010, 13:58 »

We answer to all mails, please take a look in your Spam-Folder.

You can get a daily upload quantity up to 1.000 Fotos a day. We also will help to figure our picture managing process to set the photos free for polylooks and set the licence to rf. Here are some more detail-informations:

Here is a description how to work with zoonar and change the licence type:

To participate in the action, please register first at Zoonar.
As the next step click on "My Profile" and accept the partner Polylooks.

Then you should download the free Media Manager.

You will find it by clicking this link:

http://www.zoonar.com/appgen/?cl=zoonar&cp=download&cmd=show_download_overview

Go to "Applications"...

Next, you can upload 50 pictures on approval.
If the pictures have good quality, we will increase your upload-limit to 500-1000 images per day (maximum).
Once the photos are accepted by our picture editor, you can make the next batch of images via image management to "manage pictures" on the license level "Royalty Free" and release next for the partner Polylooks.
Now we will check the pictures, if they are suitable for our partner POLYLOOKS.
For each image that has been accepted for Polylooks, you get 15 euro cents credited to your zoonar-account.

If you have more questions, please send an e-mail to: [email protected]

and some more informations about our licence system:
The Zoonar rm licence is full non-exklusive. It only means "one using". There is no conflict with RF licences at zoonar. That`s a different to the most other agencys: you can offer both licences without problems. That`s why RM is always active

Hope this helps you well !

steheap · « **Reply #40 on:** April 14, 2010, 14:14 »

Michael

So we can do this now - ie set up the link to Polylooks in advance of the midnight deadline? I have photos uploading as we speak and have had the upload limit raised to 1000.

Steve
http://www.zoonar.de/?wid=1207

Michael · « **Reply #41 on:** April 14, 2010, 15:15 »

ok midnight today german/england (middle-europe) time. I forgot to say. Midnight is not midnight anywhere ;-)

If you are not sure please take a time tomorrow morning. Tonight the photo editors didn`t work. Anyway you get the first Euros tomorrow when we start working again...

sharpshot · « **Reply #42 on:** April 14, 2010, 15:42 »

Quote from: Michael Krabs on April 14, 2010, 13:58

We answer to all mails, please take a look in your Spam-Folder.

Nothing in my spam folder and I did get a registration email from you. Also, when I just tried to upload, it tells me I am not a registered photographer. I used my user name "sharpshot" and site password. Am I registered as a photographer?

Dook · « **Reply #43 on:** April 14, 2010, 17:05 »

Is there any chance for Moneybookers or Payoneer?

Michael · « **Reply #44 on:** April 14, 2010, 17:27 »

Now we just offer PayPal but there is a chance, not tomorrow but maybe in some weeks. You are not the first who asked for that...

Michael · « **Reply #45 on:** April 14, 2010, 17:31 »

@ Sharpshot: It seams like you forgot to make a sign at "i`m a photographer" in the registration, but i set the option for you, now it should works. Don`t know what happens with my mail. Do you had more questions ? So please write again. I`ll answer tomorrow...

I´m back tomorrow. In german it is after midnight now. Must sleep to have power for checking thousand of Photos, Posts and Mails tomorrow ;-)

sharpshot · « **Reply #46 on:** April 14, 2010, 17:33 »

Thanks Michael, hopefully I will be OK now.

ThomasAmby · « **Reply #47 on:** April 14, 2010, 17:57 »

So, no vectors I assume

steheap · « **Reply #48 on:** April 14, 2010, 18:33 »

**Updated after further investigation about how to offer to Polylooks***

After playing with this on and off through the day, here is my summary of how to work with this site:

1. Sign up as a photographer, which, after the normal email confirmation, requires you to read and approve the photographer's agreement
2. Go to My Profile, and set your default pricing - I've set mine to Standard for now, although I think you can later go in and give your best pictures the Premium rating
3. Download the file uploading Java application. This is pretty intuitive, and in my case, I added each of the folders containing my stock photographs (I keep them by month on my hard drive), and then the application works in the background to upload each file. It seems relatively slow, but you can just leave it running
4. Go to the site under Manage Pictures, and the system will tell you if any keywording or titling is needed. As far as I can see, the problem images are at the head of the thumbnails and you can add keywords, then add description and save. I found that if you do it the other way round, the description is lost when you come back to that page.
5. The files can be checked as they are being uploaded - no need to wait until the uploading is finished. After a few are online, contact them via the web site contact page to ask for the upload limits to be raised to 1000.
6. I couldn't see how to make the default license set to Royalty Free, and so all of the uploads ended up as Rights Managed. I'm not sure that matters for Zoonar, but it does if you want to promotion for Polylooks. So I went through each page of files, marked them all, and then selected Royalty Free. As the newest files are on the first page, you can check this from time to time and just amend the latest ones
7. Then go back to Profile to Partner Management and choose which of the Partner sites to offer them to. This selection doesn't actually push the images to the partners! Unfortunately, you need to go back to the Manage Pictures, select each file and then choose "PolyLooks: Request Approval". I think I must have selected this too quickly, because I can now see that when you choose "PolyLooks: Request Approval", the system marks each thumbnail with a symbol that first states that the image is being reviewed, and then changes to either say "approved" or "rejected". One of the links on the right "go to account" shows the earnings from this promotion.
8. I think that is all that is needed to qualify for the promotion.
9. Just a comment about releases - the standard update puts the release status as "unknown". If you have property or people releases, you need to select the files and choose "Model Release is available". As far as I can see, you don't have to upload the releases themselves.
10. Finally, they do have a referral program that can be applied for on the site in the Webmaster menu on the left. You have to register a web site, but then you get the referral code. Mine is below!

One thing I noticed - I uploaded a lot more files than now appear "on-line". It could be because they didn't meet the standard (although they are on-line on many other sites), or they are less than 6 Meg files. Many of my older files are probably aimed more at the 4M Shutterstock limit, but I could find no indication of what happened to rejected files on the site - another Michael question! Although I have almost 600 files online with Shutterstock, so far I have only 180 online here, which is going to limit my earnings! I have a few more to go, but there is a disturbingly high rejection rate unless I have a lot of small files!

Final point - no work needed on the vast majority of files, so it is very easy to upload.

Hope this helps

Steve
http://www.zoonar.com/?wid=1207

Michael · « **Reply #49 on:** April 15, 2010, 01:58 »

Wow ! You are committed !

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