Author Topic: Dissolve (Read 23628 times)

Sean Locke Photography · « **on:** September 16, 2013, 09:01 »

"Dissolve is a new “stock video marketplace created to simplify the stock video purchase experience,” backed by a $5 million seed round led by several former co-founders of Veer and iStockphoto, with participation from iNovia Capital."

"Dissolve is confident that the average HD clip it sells for five dollars will be able to attract a customer base currently paying as much as $450 on rival Getty Images. In fact, 95 percent of Dissolve’s varied collection of video clips, which are all in HD, start at five dollars. There are also tiers of $50, $150 and $500, based upon quality and singularity."

I don't know. I don't think video doesn't sell at $450 because it's expensive. I think it's not a big seller because people don't want to watch stock videos.

leaf · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2013, 09:16 »

Interesting. It sounds like they have reasonable backing.. at least for the short term.

Has anyone checked out what royalties they are paying?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:04 »

Their page for potential contributors doesn't say - just directs you to the contact page. Not sure why the'd be cagey about that, but even if it's 50%, isn't $2.50 for an HD video clip pretty low? And it's that or $50 - no other choices?

http://www.dissolve.com/stockfootage/home/shootfordissolve.do

Here's an example search for business team and all the clips are $5

Here are the people involved. Patrick was one of iStock's founders, but not sure who the Veer alumni are

http://www.dissolve.com/stockfootage/home/team.do

leaf · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:19 »

Quote from: jsnover on September 16, 2013, 10:04

Their page for potential contributors doesn't say

Yeah, that's why I was wondering if anyone had sent an email. It's probably not great or else they'd be advertising it.. on the other hand [wishfulthinking] perhaps we could be pleasantly surprised [/wishfulthinking]

tickstock · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:21 »

leaf · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:21 »

Quote from: jsnover on September 16, 2013, 10:04

Here are the people involved. Patrick was one of iStock's founders, but not sure who the Veer alumni are

http://www.dissolve.com/stockfootage/home/team.do

Patrick was also president of North America Fotolia so he certainly has some experience under his belt.

KB · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:24 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 16, 2013, 10:21

Quote from: leaf on September 16, 2013, 10:19
Quote from: jsnover on September 16, 2013, 10:04
Their page for potential contributors doesn't say

Yeah, that's why I was wondering if anyone had sent an email. It's probably not great or else they'd be advertising it.. on the other hand [wishfulthinking] perhaps we could be pleasantly surprised [/wishfulthinking]
$5 for HD any footage isn't going to convince me to contribute no matter how high the royalty rate.

Yep. I wouldn't contribute even at a 200% royalty rate (which I'm guessing is not likely).

If this catches on, it will kill video stock sales. I hope it dies a quick death.

CrackerClips · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:30 »

I was gonna say for 5 bucks they aren't getting any video from me but after having a look I can see they are already selling almost 1,000 of our clips for 5 bucks each. Where did they get these clips from!!!!! Other established video producers may want to have a look for their video.

loop · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:38 »

Quote from: Bryan on September 16, 2013, 10:30

I was gonna say for 5 bucks they aren't getting any video from me but after having a look I can see they are already selling almost 1,000 of our clips for 5 bucks each. Where did they get these clips from!!!!! Other established video producers may want to have a look for their video.

Do you mean they have stolen your work?

CrackerClips · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:40 »

I doubt it's "stolen". Most likely one of our distributors has made a real lousy deal with them. I'm trying to find that out now.

Edit: So far, the contributor email listed on their site ( [email protected] ) has bounced back to me as an invalid address.

stocked · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:52 »

Time for a Video-Symbiostock Network before this b*llsh*t continues!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:57 »

At a minimum, it'd be better if all the agencies let you opt out of distribution deals - preferably one by one, but at least an overall opt out. Many sites don't even give you a list of who they've hooked up with!

There are so many ways we get hosed by agencies redistributing our work. One is the work going to cheapo-sites (which it appears is what has happened here with all these $5 clips). The other is what Veer does. They don't let you opt out of partner deals but they pay you at a flat rate (based on their site prices) regardless of what the other site charges. So even when the work goes to a higher priced site, the artist sees none of the extra.

I stopped uploading at Veer (though I haven't taken down what I uploaded before the Alamy deal blew up in Veer's face) in large part because of this.

CrackerClips · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2013, 11:40 »

Quote from: stocked on September 16, 2013, 10:52

Time for a Video-Symbiostock Network before this b*llsh*t continues!

I couldn't agree more! I would love to hear that someone with the programming ability and know how is working on a Symbiostock - Video platform.

After the failed email to Dissolve, I called the contributor phone number and spoke with someone. They didn't have any answers for me but promised that someone would be in contact with me shortly. I've also written an email to one of our distributors that I suspect may be involved in this and am waiting to hear back.

MicrostockExp · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2013, 12:30 »

Good luck to them you have to be crazy to accept sell a HD clip for 5 USD while the other are at 50 USD and more

Noedelhap · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2013, 13:27 »

$5 for an HD clip is a big no-go.

Snufkin · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2013, 13:58 »

I performed just one search and found several infringments. These guys don't know the difference between commercial and editorial licenses. When I click on any clip my firewall warns me every time about an outgoing flash-player connection. None of the other footage sites do it.
The price level seems to reflect their level of expertise.

Envato's Videohive has also similar #'!**& prices and IMHO their collection sucks. Videohive has a good looking site, though.

Snufkin · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2013, 14:17 »

Quote from: Snufkin on September 16, 2013, 13:58

I performed just one search and found several infringments. These guys don't know the difference between commercial and editorial licenses.

Sorry, not really infringements. According to their EULA the buyers must check themselves if a release is necessary.

Great. I don't think they will ever become a major agency.

Jake Hellbach · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2013, 13:40 »

I found out a new site I signed up with partnered with them
T3Media.com
I emailed them a couple of times. no reply. I wonder why. I'll call them this afternoon.
1400 of my clips that I uploaded to T3 are now on Dissolve at $5.00
Anyway, I'm pulling my work from T3 after this deal and I would never work with Dissolve.

Jake

Quote from: Bryan on September 16, 2013, 10:40

I doubt it's "stolen". Most likely one of our distributors has made a real lousy deal with them. I'm trying to find that out now.

Edit: So far, the contributor email listed on their site ( [email protected] ) has bounced back to me as an invalid address.

CrackerClips · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2013, 13:52 »

kk5hy I sent you a PM.

Quote from: kk5hy on September 18, 2013, 13:40

I found out a new site I signed up with partnered with them
T3Media.com
I emailed them a couple of times. no reply. I wonder why. I'll call them this afternoon.
1400 of my clips that I uploaded to T3 are now on Dissolve at $5.00
Anyway, I'm pulling my work from T3 after this deal and I would never work with Dissolve.

Jake

Quote from: Bryan on September 16, 2013, 10:40
I doubt it's "stolen". Most likely one of our distributors has made a real lousy deal with them. I'm trying to find that out now.

Edit: So far, the contributor email listed on their site ( [email protected] ) has bounced back to me as an invalid address.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #19 on:** September 19, 2013, 14:09 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on September 16, 2013, 09:01

I don't know. I don't think video doesn't sell at $450 because it's expensive. I think it's not a big seller because people don't want to watch stock videos.

This is a funny diss of stock videos - my favorite is about 2 minutes in (the realtor voice over)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/what-if-gettys-terrible-stock-videos-had-sound

asiseeit · « **Reply #20 on:** October 11, 2013, 08:03 »

Found this article about Dissolve and Stocksy:
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/technology-news/a-disruptive-explosion-of-images/

Btw, when I search on dissolve, only like 10% or less of the results are $5, most are either $50 or $150.

helloitsme · « **Reply #21 on:** August 27, 2015, 11:53 »

Quote from: kk5hy on September 18, 2013, 13:40

I found out a new site I signed up with partnered with them
T3Media.com
I emailed them a couple of times. no reply. I wonder why. I'll call them this afternoon.
1400 of my clips that I uploaded to T3 are now on Dissolve at $5.00
Anyway, I'm pulling my work from T3 after this deal and I would never work with Dissolve.

Jake

Quote from: Bryan on September 16, 2013, 10:40
I doubt it's "stolen". Most likely one of our distributors has made a real lousy deal with them. I'm trying to find that out now.

Edit: So far, the contributor email listed on their site ( [email protected] ) has bounced back to me as an invalid address.

Still the same kind of mentality. They don't care about contributors.

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