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satforce your my friend too... my pics are online *g ok i think 750 still waiting but your working thats great

lg yvonne

Nice to hear from you ..

QuoteI'm in with a few pics, won't hurt to give it a try.
Sat, is there any chance of a forum on Fotomina?

Hi Jerry,

Of course we will have a Forum on Fotomina, we are working on to add more features and forum... Please do not hesitate to ask me if you have any questions ...

Just some suggestions from me:

Why do you think it is a good idea to undercut your competition (biggest file size costs only 5$ from what I can see)? Do you want to win market share only based on price?
That's a really bad idea. If you succeed you'll probably take away business from other sides that have managed to raise prices in the past - and that would simply be the wrong direction. Why not start with slightly higher prices (like 2$ for the smallest size, 20$ for the full resolution)? If you have nothing more to offer than just cheap prices, you're doomed anyway.

Another one: You state contributors can earn up to 75% from each sale. But nowhere I can find any information about specifics. What is the exact pricing scheme, what is the commission, are there any ELs available etc.

I would like to see that before I open an account.

Cheers,
Dirk

Should I open an account too?
Everyone talks about Fotomina..
At least, even without account to them I'm sure they are better than Crestock! hehe

QuoteDo you want to win market share only based on price?

Maybe  This was happend before with stock, pics as like 200 $ 150 $ and istock comes with 1$, 3$, etc... I ask the same question how come one picture for 1$  and then an new industry comes wich known as micro stock sites 

QuoteWhy not start with slightly higher prices (like 2$ for the smallest size, 20$ for the full resolution)?

Let ' talk form buyer or designers as they like to be called, why should he buy from fotomina for 2$ since the same photo is 1$ or less with credit on Big6!!  That's way you can take a look on big 6 prices and you will see that we are similar to their prices.. 20$ can be offered of we can have extra extra size like istock but at the time we are good with our prices maybe on 2010 we will revise them .. but keep in mind 1$ x 100 download = 100 $ 

QuoteYou state contributors can earn up to 75% from each sale. But nowhere I can find any information about specifics. What is the exact pricing scheme, what is the commission, are there any ELs available etc.

As you can see our website is Beta so we are working on website info pages.. I'll explain to you we have 3 different categories of contributors Bronze Silver and Gold based on the contributors sales we will upgrade categorie bronze 50% to Fotomina, Silver 35% and 25% in Gold..

QuoteEveryone talks about Fotomina..

I am happy to hear that.. You are welcome ibogdan 

Quote from: Magnum on April 10, 2009, 11:13
This one is going to be huge. They already got 21 photos and 13 illustrations They´re all toprated, most popular and most downloaded.   This is the best of the best. LOL

Today, after 5 days form your LOL  , we have 394 approved photos 13 illustrations and XXX Declined and XXXX waiting for approval  ...

Quote from: Satforce on April 15, 2009, 11:18

Let ' talk form buyer or designers as they like to be called, why should he buy from fotomina for 2$ since the same photo is 1$ or less with credit on Big6!!  That's way you can take a look on big 6 prices and you will see that we are similar to their prices.. 20$ can be offered of we can have extra extra size like istock but at the time we are good with our prices maybe on 2010 we will revise them .. but keep in mind 1$ x 100 download = 100 $ 

Well if we're talking from the buyers point of view you're right, why would he buy from you if your prices are more than the competition, but another point to consider is why should he buy from you when your prices and images are the same (of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images), he might as well just stick with the site he knows and has used and has a much better selection than yours.

From a contributors point of view uploading to a new site that offers nothing that the other more established sites have will do nothing to help them, sales would be diluted from the other sites where they have been trying to build a reputation, on the big 6 the more you sell the more your portfolio will rise in the ranks, uploading to each and every agency that comes along does nothing but harm.

So I ask again - What advantage is there to a contributor by uploading to Fotomina, you haven't found any new buyers and you're not offering anything new to contributor or buyers, you're new to the industry and don't know much about it. Please explain.

Well said, RT.

That is exactly why I asked. With what I currently see there is no incentive for me to upload anything.

And @Satforce:
Even if your site is in beta, if you expect contributors to upload the minimum information you should give them are the exact conditions (prices, commission structure etc.) they will have to agree to when they upload.

Humm...

I think I need to hire some freelancer to help me here in this very hot topic

Quotewhy would he buy from you if your prices are more than the competition, but another point to consider is why should he buy from you when your prices and images are the same

I will not answer this question because if you don't know microstockgroup forum is the biggest source of information for new microstock sites, so I can not share all our plan here with everybody even who are reading now those lines and planing to open their own micro stock site ... What I can say there is a lot of surprises we will share later on...

QuoteWhat advantage is there to a contributor by uploading to Fotomina

Maybe we don't have advantage but on the same time artists will loose nothing if they upload on fotomina..  

Quoteyou're not offering anything new to contributor or buyers

You will see on the future what we are offering.. It's our secrets ...  

Quote from: dirkr on April 15, 2009, 12:16
Well said, RT.

That is exactly why I asked. With what I currently see there is no incentive for me to upload anything.

And @Satforce:
Even if your site is in beta, if you expect contributors to upload the minimum information you should give them are the exact conditions (prices, commission structure etc.) they will have to agree to when they upload.

Please read my last reply..

and we will try to add more information about conditions.

regards

Quote from: Satforce on April 15, 2009, 12:24
Please read my last reply..

I did. It basically says: Wait and see. That I'll do.

Quote from: Satforce on April 15, 2009, 12:24
and we will try to add more information about conditions.

regards

That will be helpful anyway.

Wait and see.

Beta does not mean you don't know what you're doing, or are deciding what you will do.
Beta means you have done it, and are checking to see if it's flawed.

- edit, typo -

QuoteBeta does not mean you don't know what you're doingBeta does not mean you don't know what you're doing

We know what we are doing but we are rewriting our pages depends of our users feedback..

YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.

I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.

QuoteI dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.

Quote from: Peter on April 15, 2009, 12:47
YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.

I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.

Agree... But I am sorry about it...

Well, perhaps I will give it a try, in few weeks  But please explain the categories thing. I will not upload to any other site with categories as it consumes too much time... That is why I give my stuff to smaller sites like Crestock... No categories, I upload and that is all. From my point of view, this is a must-have for any new agency.

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(of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images),

Be sure that we are not desperate to build up a stock of images ! and we do not accept any picture, please browse the pictures what are already accepted and you will feel it yourself, whether we are dying to get pictures, or we are selective! before we start we did study a lot what we have to avoid, Yes, we fall in some points and we are trying to fix them, but for sure we are going to stick to the quality, we do care to win you as photographer, but we will not take any pictures because we need to fill up our site, because we have long term commitment with fotomina
(Thanks for the supporting mails we got from real professional photographers !)

Quote from: peep on April 15, 2009, 13:01

Quote from: Peter on April 15, 2009, 12:47
YayMicro got a lot more potential, but it was worthless anyway.

I dont believe any new site will ever suceed. Those days are over.

Agree... But I am sorry about it...

I am sorry about that too. I whish there were BIG15, not just BIG6, but thats the fact. I would say, in reality there is BIG3 (FT, SS and DT).

Quote from: fotomina on April 15, 2009, 13:29

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(of course they won't be the same you'll have more rubbish because you'll be desperate to build up a stock of images),

Be sure that we are not desperate to build up a stock of images ! and we do not accept any picture, please browse the pictures what are already accepted and you will feel it yourself, whether we are dying to get pictures, or we are selective! before we start we did study a lot what we have to avoid, Yes, we fall in some points and we are trying to fix them, but for sure we are going to stick to the quality, we do care to win you as photographer, but we will not take any pictures because we need to fill up our site, because we have long term commitment with fotomina
(Thanks for the supporting mails we got from real professional photographers !)

Well to be fair to you I took a look. Looks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks. But having read your last comment obviously being in the top 100 doesn't class me as a real professional, so I'll step to the side and let all the pros that have emailed you get the sales.

QuoteLooks like you're going to corner the market on swans, garden birds and bricks.

, before people complain about that ostrich

I can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site.  Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales.  If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?

Hi Sharpshot,

From your username I know you are pro  Welcome in this war ...

QuoteI can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site.  Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales.  If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?

You have to give us a change, maybe we will succed  maybe microstockgroup will put Fotomina as "Sites that no longer exist"  but at least we need to try ...

Quote from: Satforce on April 15, 2009, 17:41
Hi Sharpshot,

From your username I know you are pro  Welcome in this war ...

QuoteI can't build up any enthusiasm for another new site.  Most of the ones that launched in the past 18 months have given it all they can but have only managed a few sales.  If they can't do it, why would anyone else think they can?

You have to give us a change, maybe we will succed  maybe microstockgroup will put Fotomina as "Sites that no longer exist"  but at least we need to try ...

If you look at the gauges under our icons, you will see that Richard is far more of a pro than I am.  You should look at the points he makes because they are true.

I have given a few sites a chance in the past year and so far it hasn't worked out.  I have to be sensible and stop uploading to new sites.  It is a waste of my time unless they can come up with something different that brings in new buyers.  I use over 20 sites and that is too many already.

Let me ask you a question RT do you trust BIG 6 photo approving ? please answer