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Agency Based Discussion => New Sites - General => Topic started by: PeterChigmaroff on March 12, 2009, 10:40
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As in header.
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Wondered the same thing!
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They´re selling all images collected at SS under the username El Vivo.
Biiiiiiig portfolio...
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Me Too! ???
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They´re selling all images collected at SS under the username El Vivo.
Biiiiiiig portfolio...
SS does not have an artist named El Vivo
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They´re selling all images collected at SS under the username El Vivo.
Biiiiiiig portfolio...
SS does not have an artist named El Vivo
Oh sorry! I forgot the ;)
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lmao
Well, I do know it's getting closer, our profile was updated so now it actually has information there. Hope it's soon!
Gebbie
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OK - let's go Tom and Lawrence, how about an update on the progress of the site - an email or something soon? I'm losing my enthusiasm so my uploads have slowed down. I hope you're not waiting around for some bailout money to come your way before you roll out the site. I'm generally a very patient person - have to be, I'm a public school teacher - but I'm beginning to wonder. Frequent communication helps.
Ken
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I'm generally a very patient person - have to be, I'm a public school teacher.
I thought you needed a gun for that, rather than patience ::)
Great portfolio!
Oh, Vivozoom, well. No comment :P
They're just too slick avoiding the earnings question, as a subscription site. What we've got here... is failure to "comnunicate" (Cool Hand Luke).
Good luck there!
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I can't see any point in delaying the launch. It puts people off uploading there, why upload to a site that can't sell your images? When they do launch, they wont know if the site will run smoothly or there will be problems. Every day that goes by another new site seems to start up and the vast majority of them have failed. I used to support new sites but now that I have a few with abysmal sales, I am sticking to the ones that have buyers.
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I uploaded there about 250+ images and stopped to see what happens. They said they'll launch the site by the beginning of february as I remember, now we are on the second half of march and still nothing..
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The lack of a response from anyone directly connected with Vivozoom speaks volumes.
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Yeah, there's nothing going on there anymore. Two days ago I sent an email to support asking when will VZ launch. Until now, no answer yet...
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OK - let's go Tom and Lawrence, how about an update on the progress of the site - an email or something soon? I'm losing my enthusiasm so my uploads have slowed down. I hope you're not waiting around for some bailout money to come your way before you roll out the site. I'm generally a very patient person - have to be, I'm a public school teacher - but I'm beginning to wonder. Frequent communication helps.
Ken
I'll second that. I have emailed them a few times and they always get back to me but im getting pretty frustrated with those guys. I had a bunch a crazy rejections and I emailed them about it and they agreed that my photos should have been accepted but wanted me to upload everything again. Like I have time for that.
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I'm generally a very patient person - have to be, I'm a public school teacher - but I'm beginning to wonder.
I wonder why anyone should care? Name one new microstock agency which has worked out for contributors. Mostphotos, Yay, Snap, Albumo, LuckyOliver, and on and on. We don't need any new microstock agencies. Why the excitement over Vivozoom?
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Why the excitement over Vivozoom?
For the very same reason that people:
-reply to scam emails
-buy cheap junk they know won't work before they buy it
-go to church on Sunday
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I had a bunch a crazy rejections and I emailed them about it
They rejected most of my good non-person sellers at other sites, so I doubt their reviewers. I also doubt their programmers since it took months before they came up with a password > 6. Wasted too much time on it. I stopped uploading. Time wasted there is better spent on new shoots or paying more attention to iStock.
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Why the excitement over Vivozoom?
For the very same reason that people:
-reply to scam emails
-buy cheap junk they know won't work before they buy it
-go to church on Sunday
I guess some of your fellow photographers just don't know any better
than to believe in God and go to church on Sunday, Richard, but I
haven't replied to an email scam in ages.
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Why the excitement over Vivozoom?
For the very same reason that people:
-reply to scam emails
-buy cheap junk they know won't work before they buy it
-go to church on Sunday
snicker, snicker :D
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I had a bunch a crazy rejections and I emailed them about it
They rejected most of my good non-person sellers at other sites, so I doubt their reviewers. I also doubt their programmers since it took months before they came up with a password > 6. Wasted too much time on it. I stopped uploading. Time wasted there is better spent on new shoots or paying more attention to iStock.
Isn't that the truth!
It's always kinda funny reading posts complaining about the tedious upload process at IS and squawking about how it isn't worth the hassle, and then in another thread reading the same person talk about how they will continue to upload to a non-performing site because of the easy uploads or friendly interface.
The days of viable new sites are over. LuckyOliver was the last one to have a shot (some folks, like myself, were making regular payouts)...the rest all seem to fade into oblivion before they even get started. It would take an extraordinarily innovative new model of selling images for a new site to make it now.
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I get regular sales with mostphotos and zymmetrical have sparked back in to life. They have a chance but some of the others look like they are going nowhere.
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I had a bunch a crazy rejections and I emailed them about it
They rejected most of my good non-person sellers at other sites, so I doubt their reviewers. I also doubt their programmers since it took months before they came up with a password > 6. Wasted too much time on it. I stopped uploading. Time wasted there is better spent on new shoots or paying more attention to iStock.
Isn't that the truth!
It's always kinda funny reading posts complaining about the tedious upload process at IS and squawking about how it isn't worth the hassle, and then in another thread reading the same person talk about how they will continue to upload to a non-performing site because of the easy uploads or friendly interface.
The days of viable new sites are over. LuckyOliver was the last one to have a shot (some folks, like myself, were making regular payouts)...the rest all seem to fade into oblivion before they even get started. It would take an extraordinarily innovative new model of selling images for a new site to make it now.
ha, ha, this is true.
An no ms new site withouth a huge investment has now reasonable possibilities of surviving more that some months.
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I still think there is a good chance that Vivozoom can make a decent inroads into the market. The big difference is they actually have people that know the market not just a bunch of tech guys who sit around. However, its a tough tough time to be launching a new venture. I'd rather see them launch when the site is properly designed and functional than annoy buyers off the get go. They should give photographers who are putting faith in them more information though. Actual updates, with real information, because even the most patient individual will eventually give up and walk away. Be a shame not to be getting everyone's newest and best just as you launch.
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I just logged on and my dashboard shows 3 DL. Maybe they are live, or is this just a test?
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I just logged on and my dashboard shows 3 DL. Maybe they are live, or is this just a test?
Mine shows 1 DL but no $$... I suspect its just a test, but then it would be nice to know if the site is actually going to go live.
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The $ amount can only show up by the end of the month, because of the way they calculate the revenue for each dl per buyer.
What will I get from Vivozoom?
Unlike many businesses, we offer a bi-lateral contract. This means that we cannot change it without your agreement. We also pay our contributors 40% of our receipts. By way of illustration: If a customer pays $300 for a monthly subscription and downloads 100 images, each image generates $3.00 and the photographer will earn a royalty of $1.20 per image (or 40%). However, if that same customer downloads only 10 images then the royalty becomes $12.00 per image.
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hmmmm...looks like i have a download too, no $$$ though.
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hmmmm...looks like i have a download too, no $$$ though.
What we see here is the final point Omega of subscription microstock. After going down all the time, we finally reached the stage of the 0$ download. A new era is born, that of zerostock. ;)
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I bet one day we´ll have to pay for giving our stuff away. Almost as now ;)
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DL number is set to 0 again. Looks like it just was a test. :-[ :'(
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DL number is set to 0 again. Looks like it just was a test. :-[ :'(
Yup, mine is back to zero also...what a tease lol
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I have 2 downloads and 0.78$ commission but I can't see which images are downloaded... it's a test, for sure! Portfolios are not build on line!
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I have 2 downloads and 0.78$ commission... ???
Interesting, very. So their (secretly kept) reward is 0.38$ per image. They claimed they would be better than Shutterstock, referring to the 0.25$ mentioned at the SS page. Actually, my RPD at SS currently is 0.75$ due to the ODs and the ELs. I'm sorry but I'm not going to sell at 0.38$. Those days are gone.
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0.39$, Flemish, not 0.38$. One cent is a big difference hahaha.
But when will VZ launch?
Seems not a very serious thing...
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Sorry for not posting... been consumed by a lot of testing and one of the board members dropped me an email 'heads-up'.
We are in a live test with a limited client group and commercial downloads are taking place. We are also doing some test downloads in-house to validate the payout mechanism.
Early next week, the results of these paid downloads will appear in your Dashboard. We ran a short-duration subscription for these clients so that we could validate the 40% was being applied accurately across all downloads in a sub.
We have had only one bug so far (related to downloads from a light-box) but I'm sure many more will follow.
We plan to send an update (including the access credentials to the client site to preview the layout) to all contributors early next week. (I'll post a redacted version on the other vivozoom thread on this board when it goes out)
If no show stoppers emerge, we'll open the site in the next 2 weeks.
But we still need more images. There are no upload limits on our FTP server, so 'one last push' before launch would be great.
By definition, we'll never have nor never want the quantities that other Microstock sites have. We are not a 'come one, come all' business. It's all about trust and quality. The following quote is from one of our alpha-users, a *very* large Chicago-based publisher:
"There's really nice photos on the website and refreshing to see something different. I'm sure a lot of us have Photodisc pictures memorized by now (!)"
We want to take the best Microstock and place it alongside traditional RF with the traditional RF Warranty. Hopefully, this is a small indication that we're headed in the right direction.
Tom
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The best of the best, I guess? could actually work. But I don´t get it why all new agencies want same old stuff as the big 4-5-6???
It´s getting way to kebabish... too many fighting over same stuff.
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Sorry for not posting... been consumed by a lot of testing and one of the board members dropped me an email 'heads-up'.
But we still need more images. There are no upload limits on our FTP server, so 'one last push' before launch would be great.
Tom
Is the review time going to speed up? It took weeks for my last submissions to be reviewed.
Thanks
Steve
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Is the review time going to speed up? It took weeks for my last submissions to be reviewed.
Thanks
Steve
Steve, yes review times will speed up, but I guarantee that we'll never be as quick as many of the other sites. We have onward legal obligations to fufill by approving an image and this will always take a little longer.
Tom
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Is the review time going to speed up? It took weeks for my last submissions to be reviewed.
Thanks
Steve
Steve, yes review times will speed up, but I guarantee that we'll never be as quick as many of the other sites. We have onward legal obligations to fufill by approving an image and this will always take a little longer.
Tom
Tom,
I've e mail to apply for id code for contributors a couple of times with no reply .
Thanks
Gary
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Tom,
I've e mail to apply for id code for contributors a couple of times with no reply .
Thanks
Gary
Gary - please email me directly at tom <at> vivozoom <dot> com
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What will the payout per image be?
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Got an email today advising it will be up and running in a few weeks, issued new passwords for those already with uploads
David
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yeah, just to clarify the new passwords were to log into the buyer side of the site, and it appears they are all ready doing preliminary buyer testing with a few clients. Moneybookers and Paypal are set up with a minimum payout of $50.