Author Topic: Refusals must be costing DT money. (Read 5355 times)

aly · « **on:** February 08, 2013, 01:52 »

The last three weeks or so I have had nearly all my submissions refused at DT yet strange to say SS accepted many of them . DT must be losing money ? The reasons are spurious - focus, composition, etc etc whem in past the same type of pics were accepted. I am glad I got on to SS as I am thinking of foregoing my exclusivity on DT. What does everyone think as I am a newbie.Thanks.

nicku · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2013, 02:01 »

Quote from: aly on February 08, 2013, 01:52

The last three weeks or so I have had nearly all my submissions refused at DT yet strange to say SS accepted many of them . DT must be losing money ? The reasons are spurious - focus, composition, etc etc whem in past the same type of pics were accepted. I am glad I got on to SS as I am thinking of foregoing my exclusivity on DT. What does everyone think as I am a newbie.Thanks.

Spread your eggs in many baskets as you can.

Poncke · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2013, 12:43 »

Go RM, micros are all gearing up shafting the people that provide their bread and butter. Its over.

tab62 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2013, 15:44 »

load up some of your rejections for us to see and make comments-

Here are my stats on DT am I not that good of a photographer thus I don't agree that DT is being harsh.

12-Feb   41   29   58.60%
12-Mar   52   28   65.00%
12-Apr   66   23   74.20%
12-May   75   37   67.00%
12-Jun   41   15   73.20%
12-Jul   50   10   83.30%
12-Aug   66   8   89.20%
12-Sep   62   6   91.20%
12-Oct   50   11   82.00%
12-Nov   81   31   72.30%
12-Dec   54   4   93.10%
13-Jan   89   13   87.30%
13-Feb   20   0   100.00%

aly · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2013, 00:52 »

What is meant by RM?

rolmat · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2013, 01:04 »

Quote from: aly on February 09, 2013, 00:52

What is meant by RM?

Rights Managed.
You might want to take a look at some microstock acronyms here: http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?page=microstockacronyms

Dan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:26 »

They rejected what has turned out to be my best seller. Maye resubmit (what do you think?).

leaf · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2013, 08:54 »

Quote from: Dan on February 15, 2013, 08:26

They rejected what has turned out to be my best seller. Maye resubmit (what do you think?).

it all depends on what said image looks like and why they rejected it.

rolmat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2013, 09:26 »

Quote from: Dan on February 15, 2013, 08:26

They rejected what has turned out to be my best seller. Maye resubmit (what do you think?).

Read the grounds of the rejection. If they point out issues subject to be fixed, then resubmit. In some cases though, it may not be eligible for resubmission.

JPSDK · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2013, 10:28 »

I have made a woodoo doll out of straw.
When I get rejections I take a needle and plank it into the doll.

Then it goes away. The anger and emotions, blood, sweat and tears and all that.

Smart system, the needles can be used many times.

Poncke · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2013, 12:24 »

Quote from: Dan on February 15, 2013, 08:26

They rejected what has turned out to be my best seller. Maye resubmit (what do you think?).

Dan, with all due respect, your best seller has only sold a few times, from what I read from you. I know your port on CanStockPhoto and FT and you need to improve your quality a lot. I have tried to help you before, but you ignored it.

Your overall composition in general is not good. Your lighting is not good either. You frame and crop too tight. You cut of parts of your subject and your horizons are mostly crooked. And most your images look like snapshots.

I honestly suggest you start your application at Shutterstock and work with the guys in their critique forum. They will help you to get accepted, but you need to put in a lot of work and patience. You will learn from pros and you will improve your image quality significantly. Once you get accepted into SS, you have the skill set to shoot a proper stock photo.

Mantis · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2013, 13:41 »

I will be honest. DT seems to have eased up on their similars....being more realistic on similars, not using keyword matching to auto reject, etc. Maybe I've gotten lucky lately, but the next few months will tell.

Dan, I have many good selling images on certain sites that weren't accepted on other micros. It's not just limited to DT. I have images that sell very well on DT, SS but Istock won't take them. Each site has their likes and dislikes and they generally direct their inspectors to place less emphasis on certain image types. SS for example does not like dark, moody, eerie images, and this has been a topic on their forums a couple of times. I have a pretty well selling image like this but not on SS. I've submitted it 5 times and all 5 times they reject it for lighting.

DD is no different. Some images they like and others they just feel dont fit the needs of their clientele.

Go figure. It's a numbers game. Let it go unless you really believe it is a winner.

aly · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2013, 23:23 »

I am very puzzled as to why DT states that my abstract designs are rejected for poor lens quality, etc, when they are NOT photographs.I have pointed this out to them. FUnny though SS can't get enough of them!!

rolmat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2013, 03:02 »

Quote from: aly on February 15, 2013, 23:23

I am very puzzled as to why DT states that my abstract designs are rejected for poor lens quality, etc, when they are NOT photographs.I have pointed this out to them. FUnny though SS can't get enough of them!!

Didn't you get those abstract designs refused "even for out of focus" as well on SS?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/is-ss-back-in-focus/msg293930/#msg293930

Mantis · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2013, 10:39 »

Quote from: aly on February 15, 2013, 23:23

I am very puzzled as to why DT states that my abstract designs are rejected for poor lens quality, etc, when they are NOT photographs.I have pointed this out to them. FUnny though SS can't get enough of them!!

I've never heard of that (poor lens quality) as a rejection reason.

Dan · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2013, 15:24 »

Poncke - i'm disappointed you think i ignored you - i most certainly did not. Just because i don't answer every post i still try to take your advice.

fotografer · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2013, 15:47 »

One image that I put up to DT years ago was borderline focus. Dt accepted it and Istock refused it. It went on sell hundreds of times at DT and is one of my best sellers there. You just have to accept that if an image is not perfect it can go either way with the agencies, some will accept it and some won't. Just try and learn from your refusals and improve the quality until the day comes that virtually all images are accepted everywhere.

Poncke · « **Reply #17 on:** February 22, 2013, 02:27 »

Quote from: aly on February 08, 2013, 01:52

The last three weeks or so I have had nearly all my submissions refused at DT yet strange to say SS accepted many of them . DT must be losing money ? The reasons are spurious - focus, composition, etc etc whem in past the same type of pics were accepted. I am glad I got on to SS as I am thinking of foregoing my exclusivity on DT. What does everyone think as I am a newbie.Thanks.

If you submit exclusively to DT, your exclusive images cannot be offered elsewhere. Thats a breach of contract and you could be kicked out of DT. Maybe even worse.

aly · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2013, 03:32 »

I do not offer my exclusive images anywhere else but use different ones, Is that all right?

Poncke · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2013, 04:08 »

Quote from: aly on February 22, 2013, 03:32

I do not offer my exclusive images anywhere else but use different ones, Is that all right?

Its alright for exclusive images, not if you are exclusive contributor

RacePhoto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2013, 14:35 »

I'm still confused. You are saying files are exclusive on DT but SS is accepting them. Then you said the pictures that aren't photos are being refused on DT but accepted on SS. Then later you wrote that SS refused some that DT refused?

Are you an exclusive or not? And if photo exclusive how do the same photos get onto both DT and SS?

You really lost me?

Quote from: aly on February 08, 2013, 01:52

The last three weeks or so I have had nearly all my submissions refused at DT yet strange to say SS accepted many of them . DT must be losing money ? The reasons are spurious - focus, composition, etc etc whem in past the same type of pics were accepted. I am glad I got on to SS as I am thinking of foregoing my exclusivity on DT. What does everyone think as I am a newbie.Thanks.

Tryingmybest · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2013, 14:57 »

Quote from: aly on February 15, 2013, 23:23

I am very puzzled as to why DT states that my abstract designs are rejected for poor lens quality, etc, when they are NOT photographs.I have pointed this out to them. FUnny though SS can't get enough of them!!

Agreed. Silly dogmatists. They rejected ALL my geometric patterns for the past few months. Whatever. I'm going into year three of the microstock world and am finding that reviewing images is 75% subjective hocus pocus and 25% technical (real: Open paths, fringing, logos, etc).

Pixart · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2013, 16:53 »

I was invited to (audit?) refusals and report any that I thought are unwarranted at a special link. I like the offer, but I no longer upload similars and they have a pretty reasonable acceptance other than that. The only rejection at the I have is a trademark (a red cross on a 4 year old's dance costume) which is accurate. I don't really upload much to be useful in their survey, but appreciate that they are doing something on our behalf.

bruce_blake · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2013, 02:06 »

Quote from: nicku on February 08, 2013, 02:01

Quote from: aly on February 08, 2013, 01:52
The last three weeks or so I have had nearly all my submissions refused at DT yet strange to say SS accepted many of them . DT must be losing money ? The reasons are spurious - focus, composition, etc etc whem in past the same type of pics were accepted. I am glad I got on to SS as I am thinking of foregoing my exclusivity on DT. What does everyone think as I am a newbie.Thanks.

Spread your eggs in many baskets as you can.

Agree. As long as we can reach wider market, earn more, why not? Unless we are selling exclusive images.

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