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CD123

« on: November 17, 2014, 10:58 »
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Post deleted. Made a mistake to think this is still the type of community one can hope for some support when you are in dire straight. Might have been when I first joined. Not worth the ridicule. My bad.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 13:57 by CD123 »


« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 12:06 »
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If this is a good investment for you and not just a new toy, put it on credit card and use your earnings to pay back the loan.  You can get a used in EX+ condition 400mm lens from KEH for about $1,000 or you can get a 300mm L lens for $750.  I wish you luck but I doubt a new lens is what you need to succeed, especially a telephoto lens.  What subjects do you need the lens for?  Birds, motorcycle racing, animals way off in the distance?  Those are not normally high demand or highly profitable subjects.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 12:10 by tickstock »

CD123

« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 13:29 »
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If this is a good investment for you and not just a new toy, put it on credit card and use your earnings to pay back the loan.  You can get a used in EX+ condition 400mm lens from KEH for about $1,000 or you can get a 300mm L lens for $750.  I wish you luck but I doubt a new lens is what you need to succeed, especially a telephoto lens.  What subjects do you need the lens for?  Birds, motorcycle racing, animals way off in the distance?  Those are not normally high demand or highly profitable subjects.
My apologies for not discussing my financial position here in detail for you to understand. Very glad for you that you have a credit card with so much credit on it.

« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 13:41 »
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Pretty much any credit card comes with $1,000 or more limit on it don't they?  You have a camera and a good lens in the 24-105mm, use that equipment to make the money for a 400mm lens.  If you can't make that work why do you think you can do so much better with a 400mm lens.  For the most part that lens is not great for making money, how many great selling images are taken with it?  Very few I bet, if I had to guess the lens you have right now is probably used for more best sellers than any other lens.   You're asking people to give you money so that you can in turn support yourself, how do you see that lens helping?

I'll add I have the 400mm 5.6L lens and it's by far my least useful lens because the subjects it's good (not great) for taking are not of high commercial value.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 13:45 by tickstock »

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 13:47 »
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If you ask people for money, they have a right to know I think. Good luck with the project.

« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 13:50 »
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While we are at it, I could use a funds to hire some top end models and rent some really great locations for shoots. This will increase my sales. PM me with contributions of $10,000 or more.

« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 14:02 »
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No ! Do not believe them. Better give me $ 10.000 and i will do 2 weeks of fantastic holiday on my dream island near indonesia. I will present you some nice images at my youtube chanel. Pictures of my big belly shining in the sun.  ;)

« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 14:04 »
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http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/canon-400mm-f5.6l

Why not rent the lens for 5 days it's only $50, take some photos see how they do.  You can add the photos to your site and tell us what kind of earnings potential the images you take have, that way at least it seems like a more a serious effort.  Hoping that getting a new lens will make you money is not a good business plan, you have good enough equipment already.

« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 14:08 »
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Post deleted. Made a mistake to think this is still the type of community one can hope for some support when you are in dire straight. Might have been when I first joined. Not worth the ridicule. My bad.
I'm not ridiculing you.  If you have a good business plan I would consider helping you out.  For instance if you showed us that you were a terrific wildlife photographer and the only way you could get high selling images is with this lens or if you said you have great connections to get you into some amazing exclusive locations and that lens was necessary.  Right now it seems as though you are saying give me a better lens and I'll take better photos, that isn't a business plan it's wishful thinking.

« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 14:24 »
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Frankly, I regret poking fun at you, but it is a bit naive to think people would send you money because you ask for it and say you need it. As said, if you presented some kind of business plan or record of competence, perhaps some would  invest in you. It's a tough business and many photographers are going through dire times, so there are many in the same boat with you.

ShadySue

« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 15:33 »
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http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/canon-400mm-f5.6l

Why not rent the lens for 5 days it's only $50, take some photos see how they do.  You can add the photos to your site and tell us what kind of earnings potential the images you take have, that way at least it seems like a more a serious effort.  Hoping that getting a new lens will make you money is not a good business plan, you have good enough equipment already.


Oh my the Land of the Nearly Free.
Here that lens is usually c50 for three days, (from known companies).

At that sort of price, Tickstock's suggestion is Gold.

And second hand is upwards of 800 / $1250 from a company I don't know,  950 /  $1486 and up from companies I know of.

I tend to agree with Tickstock on this. I would get rid of my 28-105 before I'd sell my 100-400, but that because of my preferred subject choice. It works for me because I don't have models or a studio, so I'm don't make more with shorter lenses, but for most people, the lower range lenses will be more profitable.

It really depends what you're intending to do with your telephoto. If wildlife, look at the existing competition for popular subjects; and look at the sales records (one sites where that is possible) for less popular locations / species. I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie hoping to make the money back in a reasonable timescale, especially nowadays.
Tickstock is right on this too, I'm afraid, even though I use my tele zoom for a lot more than wildlife.


Shelma1

« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 17:16 »
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I agree that Tickstock's suggestion is excellent. Rent for a few days, shoot as much as possible, and see how the images sell.

Also, since you have the vector icon, why not do more vectors? They seem to make a decent return. You may find that's more successful for you, with no additional monetary investment needed.


 

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