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« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2022, 17:56 »
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"Extreme heat in 21 European countries and USA danger zones with 100 million plus population, threaten food supply, travel and even lives.

Multiple heatwaves across the globe. London officials saying they have never seen heatwaves on this scale before. In Spain, France, and Italy, wildfires are spreading rapidly. In major cities, travel is disrupted, trains & flights are cancelled due to the heat and causing a global ripple effect.  Hundreds have died in Portugal. Over a 1,000 deaths in Europe. Scientists have been warning about global warming for decades, and now say that heat devastation is here and is a crisis." (Source: CNN)

Forget about the economy, covid, pandemics, rising prices - the climate is going to get us in the end if nothing is done about it. I am not sure what other countries' governments are doing, Australia has changed its federal government party recently, but the USA Senate doesn't even have the necessary 60 votes to remotely address this.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2022, 18:01 by Annie »


« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2022, 18:51 »
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Relax...




« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2022, 19:54 »
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"Heat alerts across 20 USA states. Fire west of Forth Worth burning more than 500 acres. Chalk Mountain fire burning 1,000 acres. Fires straining power grids in Texas. Boston declares heat emergency today. Sweltering summer that has shattered heat records across the USA. Climate prediction center forecasts dangerous conditions will prevail over the next few weeks for much of 48 states.

Today was the hottest day ever recorded in most of Europe. Record temperatures recorded in France, Ireland and Germany. Record breaking heatwave in UK.  London has for the first time ever issued a red warning for extreme heat.  Airport runways are melting. The sun is buckling train tracks. Surge of huge fires across UK's capitol. The British government has estimated that these extreme temperatures have been made 10 times more likely by human impact.

There were so many emergencies in London today that the Fire Brigade has run out of all their fire engines."

This was the news that I woke up to this morning.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 00:03 by Annie »

« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2022, 22:20 »
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Today was the hottest day ever recorded in most of Europe.


Fun scientific facts:


Hottest temperature recorded in Europe was 48.0 C in Greece (Athens) on July 10, 1977.

US record: 10 July 1913 , 56.7 C

So climate changes didn't even manage to break the records from times way before them.








« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2022, 00:06 »
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"Heat alerts across 20 USA states. Fire west of Forth Worth burning more than 500 acres. Chalk Mountain fire burning 1,000 acres. Fires straining power grids in Texas. Boston declares heat emergency today. Sweltering summer that has shattered heat records across the USA. Climate prediction center forecasts dangerous conditions will prevail over the next few weeks for much of 48 states.

Today was the hottest day ever recorded in most of Europe. Record temperatures recorded in France, Ireland and Germany. Record breaking heatwave in UK.  London has for the first time ever issued a red warning for extreme heat.  Airport runways are melting. The sun is buckling train tracks. Surge of huge fires across UK's capitol. The British government has estimated that these extreme temperatures have been made 10 times more likely by human impact.

There were so many emergencies in London today that the Fire Brigade has run out of all their fire engines."

This was the news that I woke up to this morning.

The world is about a century behind the times when it comes to energy science. One needs to ask, why?  And who is behind blocking this progress? Turning people against people and making it all political.  It shouldn't even be a subject for debate.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2022, 14:03 by Annie »

« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2022, 05:28 »
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US record: 10 July 1913 , 56.7 C

So climate changes didn't even manage to break the records from times way before them.

"For ninety years, a former record that was measured in Libya had been in place, until it was decertified in 2012 based on evidence that it was an erroneous reading. This finding has since raised questions about the legitimacy of the 1913 record measured in Death Valley, with several meteorological experts asserting that there were similar irregularities."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest_temperature_recorded_on_Earth

Apart from that: The climate change does not necessarily mean that it is getting hotter everywhere to the same degree. Generally speaking, the polar regions are expected to see higher increases in temperature than tropical regions.

Also places where high temperature readings are the result of extreme micro climate conditions as in the Death Valley may not see an increase in temperature readings to the same degree other places.

« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2022, 07:06 »
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These photos don't do justice to the incredible erosion along Cronulla beach in Sydney's South - which just happened during very severe weather last week. Where you could walk down to the beach, you now need to slide down a drop of four to eight feet (or more) depending on where you enter the beach at. If you look closely at the photos, this erosion stretches right across the entire beach. I talked to two guys down there on Sunday who've been there for years and they said never seen anything like it.







Sydney itself is experiencing the wettest weather on record with both the wettest start to the year and likewise for the month of July. I grew up on Georges River at East Hills in Sydney's South West and my dad had owned the place since the 1950s. There were some big floods there over the decades, including two I can remember in 1986 and 1988. But none of this remotely compares to this year with already 4 major floods, 3 of which entered the lower house just this year alone. Other communities around the state of NSW have been decimated by the floods of March 2022 / July 2022.  Check out my drone video (link below) of the most recent flood on 3 July 2022 in the neighbourhood at East Hills where I grew up in. For perspective, the flood waters you see in the yards of the properties there are well over your head in depth as you move closer to the river. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4le2vt1QUdY&t=22s     

My family were not prepared for this most recent flood (which rose very rapidly) and didn't have time to move valuable furniture / appliances on the lower level which were destroyed by the flood waters. As a consequence of the frequent flooding there this year, my sister is now selling the family home of about 65 years. The weather systems in Sydney seems like it has permanently changed. This follows the drought we had experienced in recent years, only ending in those devastating bushfires in late 2019/2020 which were televised around the world.

« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2022, 10:21 »
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Today was the hottest day ever recorded in most of Europe.


Fun scientific facts:


Hottest temperature recorded in Europe was 48.0 C in Greece (Athens) on July 10, 1977.

US record: 10 July 1913 , 56.7 C

So climate changes didn't even manage to break the records from times way before them.

It appears you don't understand the difference between "weather" (localized measurements and occurrences) and "climate" (overall patterns and trends).

« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2022, 11:31 »
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Today was the hottest day ever recorded in most of Europe.


Fun scientific facts:


Hottest temperature recorded in Europe was 48.0 C in Greece (Athens) on July 10, 1977.

US record: 10 July 1913 , 56.7 C

So climate changes didn't even manage to break the records from times way before them.

It appears you don't understand the difference between "weather" (localized measurements and occurrences) and "climate" (overall patterns and trends).
I think it's more some people dont understand "reality" vs "magical thinking" at some point you have to just give up.

« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2022, 12:14 »
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...
The world is about a century behind the times when it comes to energy science. One needs to ask, why?  And who is behind blocking this progress? Turning people against people and making it all political.  It shouldn't even be a subject for debate.

unfortunately, it IS political - esp'ly w US troglodyte republicans & their oil industry masters (and one dem bot by the coal industry)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/17/us/politics/climate-change-manchin-biden.html

Texas education officials convened teams of volunteers to rewrite the existing standards, and industry members volunteered for those writing teams and shaped the language around energy and climate. Industry members rallied to testify each time proposals to revise standards got a public hearing.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/subverting-climate-science-in-the-classroom/

« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2022, 13:24 »
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Its just the latest thing were supposed to be afraid of. The sky is falling! The fix for climate change ... higher taxes! LOL. Like man has any power over changing the climate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bs4MVY7nD8

« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2022, 13:53 »
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LOL. Like man has any power over changing the climate.

You could benefit from following up with some science. You know, the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment which scientists have devoted their lifes to in order to accumulate knowledge that makes them come to the conclusion that, yes, man has power over changing the climate. It's embarassing how many people think they have more knowledge over things others have studied for decades or how they think something like a quick youtube video can give them better education that decades of scientific study.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 13:55 by Firn »

« Reply #87 on: July 20, 2022, 16:47 »
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These photos don't do justice to the incredible erosion along Cronulla beach in Sydney's South - which just happened during very severe weather last week. Where you could walk down to the beach, you now need to slide down a drop of four to eight feet (or more) depending on where you enter the beach at. If you look closely at the photos, this erosion stretches right across the entire beach. I talked to two guys down there on Sunday who've been there for years and they said never seen anything like it.







Sydney itself is experiencing the wettest weather on record with both the wettest start to the year and likewise for the month of July. I grew up on Georges River at East Hills in Sydney's South West and my dad had owned the place since the 1950s. There were some big floods there over the decades, including two I can remember in 1986 and 1988. But none of this remotely compares to this year with already 4 major floods, 3 of which entered the lower house just this year alone. Other communities around the state of NSW have been decimated by the floods of March 2022 / July 2022.  Check out my drone video (link below) of the most recent flood on 3 July 2022 in the neighbourhood at East Hills where I grew up in. For perspective, the flood waters you see in the yards of the properties there are well over your head in depth as you move closer to the river. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4le2vt1QUdY&t=22s     

My family were not prepared for this most recent flood (which rose very rapidly) and didn't have time to move valuable furniture / appliances on the lower level which were destroyed by the flood waters. As a consequence of the frequent flooding there this year, my sister is now selling the family home of about 65 years. The weather systems in Sydney seems like it has permanently changed. This follows the drought we had experienced in recent years, only ending in those devastating bushfires in late 2019/2020 which were televised around the world.

Oh Pace. That's shocking. I am so sorry its affecting you and your family so dramatically.

« Reply #88 on: July 20, 2022, 16:48 »
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The world is about a century behind the times when it comes to energy science. One needs to ask, why?  And who is behind blocking this progress? Turning people against people and making it all political.  It shouldn't even be a subject for debate.

unfortunately, it IS political - esp'ly w US troglodyte republicans & their oil industry masters (and one dem bot by the coal industry)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/17/us/politics/climate-change-manchin-biden.html

Texas education officials convened teams of volunteers to rewrite the existing standards, and industry members volunteered for those writing teams and shaped the language around energy and climate. Industry members rallied to testify each time proposals to revise standards got a public hearing.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/subverting-climate-science-in-the-classroom/

thanks!

And the ironical part is that Texas is one of the worse affected areas at the moment.

« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2022, 16:54 »
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Its just the latest thing were supposed to be afraid of. The sky is falling! The fix for climate change ... higher taxes! LOL. Like man has any power over changing the climate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bs4MVY7nD8

No, no human being can change anything. If these stupid aliens would finally stop tilting the earth's axis and irradiating the polar caps, the permafrost soils and the Amazon rain forests with their high-power lasers.
But as long as we cannot convert these aliens, we humans should in any case continue as before.

« Reply #90 on: July 20, 2022, 17:00 »
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LOL. Like man has any power over changing the climate.

You could benefit from following up with some science. You know, the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment which scientists have devoted their lifes to in order to accumulate knowledge that makes them come to the conclusion that, yes, man has power over changing the climate. It's embarassing how many people think they have more knowledge over things others have studied for decades or how they think something like a quick youtube video can give them better education that decades of scientific study.

Well said Firn!

One just needs to logically follow it through.

Increase in fossil fuel production (transport, manufacturing, electricity production, and their combustion) = increase in gases ( CO2, methane, N2O, CFC that absorb some part of solar radiation and reflects it in all directions, including Earths surface preventing it from escaping the atmosphere) = increase in our planet's temperatures = increase in heat devastation around the world simultaneously.

Poles melting (see NASA's before and after pics) converts to precipitation which has to go somewhere. So where's it going? Well, at the moment, its being dumped on Pace and his family!


Just cut it off at the source.

« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 17:35 by Annie »

« Reply #91 on: July 21, 2022, 00:33 »
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Thanks Annie, indeed it's been one crazy year of rolling severe weather in Sydney, incidentally my first year here since 2008 after moving back from Canberra. 

« Reply #92 on: July 21, 2022, 00:51 »
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Thanks Annie, indeed it's been one crazy year of rolling severe weather in Sydney, incidentally my first year here since 2008 after moving back from Canberra.

Yeah, I know. I was watching your drone shot. Incredible weather!

Anyway, just make sure the aliens don't get you (I am still laughing at Wilm's response above. lol)

« Reply #93 on: July 21, 2022, 01:02 »
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Here is the truth.
You can cut the production of coal, oil and gas. Easy to do. Just pass some laws.
Then when power goes out because climate change does not react overnight, when jobs are
cut, when the voters go crazy and throw out the politicians things turn around over night.
The production of fossil fuels resumes, more tons of CO2 are tossed into the atmosphere
and we are back to square one.
Obviously that's not the answer.
Technology is the answer. Until nuclear fusion is made workable, until the CO2 is taken out
of the air with new technology things are only going to get worse.
It does no good for California to go green crazy when China, Russia and OPEC laugh and produce
even more hydrocarbon fuels.
Technology is the answer.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11031771/Scientists-developing-train-car-remove-3-000-tonnes-CO2-air-year.html
This is one solution. If it can be scaled down to where every car has one of these, then you will see progress.
Cutting the production of hydrocarbons is like slicing your own throat.
Civilization needs power. There is no way around that.
Another painful way is to legislate every new building must have solar panels.
Every house, factory, store, and hotel must have solar panels.
Here is another solution.
https://www.solarwindow.com/
Cutting energy production will get you tossed out off office faster than you can turn the lights out.
The hard truth is it will take 30 years to turn this thing around but progress is being made. Slowly.
Germany is the classic example of being energy stupid. They went green crazy, sucked up to Ivan for
cheap natural gas, did away with their nuclear power plants and installed millions and millions of solar panels
all over the country. Now they are having to dig more coal to produce more power.
Yup, they dug their own hole they are now desperate to get out of.
We did not get into this climate change problem overnight and we are not going to get out of it overnight.
Nuclear power plants, solar power, forest management, smart farming can all help but the hard truth nobody
want to talk about is there are too damned many people on this planet and more are being created every day.
So maybe we need a nice nuclear war. Create nuclear winter, cut the population. Yeah, some people advocate that
crazy crap. I don't.
Every time you pop open a carbonated soft drink you are putting CO2 into the air. Your demand for those soft drinks
creates factories that pour out more CO2 into the atmosphere. It's not just power plants that pollute.
People are the worst problem.

« Reply #94 on: July 21, 2022, 01:40 »
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Thanks Annie, indeed it's been one crazy year of rolling severe weather in Sydney, incidentally my first year here since 2008 after moving back from Canberra.

Yeah, I know. I was watching your drone shot. Incredible weather!

Anyway, just make sure the aliens don't get you (I am still laughing at Wilm's response above. lol)

Annie,

do not underestimate the influence of the aliens!
There is a "Dr. Coldwell" here. Actually, he's not a Dr., but he likes to call himself one to give his thinking a scientific touch.

He is the one who announced that in September 2021 most of the people vaccinated against Corona would die.

After that didn't happen, he let humanity know in October 2021 that the vaccine was a mixture of cancer cells and spider eggs that aliens were using to wipe out humanity. He sold a dietary supplement that would save vaccinated people from this horrible fate.

Against this background, I must naturally assume that Bezos' and Musk's private space programs serve solely to contact the aliens in order to participate in the extermination of their own customers.

Anyway: you can easily see that the aliens are a life-threatening problem.

« Reply #95 on: July 21, 2022, 02:33 »
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Thanks Annie, indeed it's been one crazy year of rolling severe weather in Sydney, incidentally my first year here since 2008 after moving back from Canberra.

Yeah, I know. I was watching your drone shot. Incredible weather!

Anyway, just make sure the aliens don't get you (I am still laughing at Wilm's response above. lol)

Annie,

do not underestimate the influence of the aliens!
There is a "Dr. Coldwell" here. Actually, he's not a Dr., but he likes to call himself one to give his thinking a scientific touch.

He is the one who announced that in September 2021 most of the people vaccinated against Corona would die.

After that didn't happen, he let humanity know in October 2021 that the vaccine was a mixture of cancer cells and spider eggs that aliens were using to wipe out humanity. He sold a dietary supplement that would save vaccinated people from this horrible fate.

Against this background, I must naturally assume that Bezos' and Musk's private space programs serve solely to contact the aliens in order to participate in the extermination of their own customers.

Anyway: you can easily see that the aliens are a life-threatening problem.

Yes. Absolutely crazy.

As I said earlier somewhere, some people find it easier to believe some way-out concocted story than the simple truth.

Hey, extreme fossil fuel usage and production is destroying our atmosphere! No, that's too simple and logical. But as Cascoly mentioned above, rewrite the text books because your oil-industry-funded politician doesn't want you to know the truth. And, yeah, that's ok.

« Last Edit: July 21, 2022, 03:08 by Annie »

« Reply #96 on: July 21, 2022, 02:53 »
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Yes. Absolutely crazy.

As I said earlier somewhere, some people find it easier to believe some way-out concocted story that the simple truth.

Hey, extreme fossil fuel usage and production is destroying our atmosphere! No, that's too simple and logical. But as Cascoly mentioned above, rewrite the text books because your oil-industry-funded politician doesn't want you to know the truth. And, yeah, that's ok.

I want to bet on them jumping straight over reality without even touching it. Straight from its all made up fuss about nothing to its the rapture and we should welcome the end of the world and coming of the lord. What odds do I get?

« Reply #97 on: July 21, 2022, 03:09 »
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Yes. Absolutely crazy.

As I said earlier somewhere, some people find it easier to believe some way-out concocted story than the simple truth.

Hey, extreme fossil fuel usage and production is destroying our atmosphere! No, that's too simple and logical. But as Cascoly mentioned above, rewrite the text books because your oil-industry-funded politician doesn't want you to know the truth. And, yeah, that's ok.

I want to bet on them jumping straight over reality without even touching it. Straight from its all made up fuss about nothing to its the rapture and we should welcome the end of the world and coming of the lord. What odds do I get?

lol. Pretty low.

« Reply #98 on: July 21, 2022, 03:10 »
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Here is the truth.
You can cut the production of coal, oil and gas. Easy to do. Just pass some laws.
Then when power goes out because climate change does not react overnight, when jobs are
cut, when the voters go crazy and throw out the politicians things turn around over night.
The production of fossil fuels resumes, more tons of CO2 are tossed into the atmosphere
and we are back to square one.
Obviously that's not the answer.
Technology is the answer. Until nuclear fusion is made workable, until the CO2 is taken out
of the air with new technology things are only going to get worse.
It does no good for California to go green crazy when China, Russia and OPEC laugh and produce
even more hydrocarbon fuels.
Technology is the answer.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11031771/Scientists-developing-train-car-remove-3-000-tonnes-CO2-air-year.html
This is one solution. If it can be scaled down to where every car has one of these, then you will see progress.
Cutting the production of hydrocarbons is like slicing your own throat.
Civilization needs power. There is no way around that.
Another painful way is to legislate every new building must have solar panels.
Every house, factory, store, and hotel must have solar panels.
Here is another solution.
https://www.solarwindow.com/
Cutting energy production will get you tossed out off office faster than you can turn the lights out.
The hard truth is it will take 30 years to turn this thing around but progress is being made. Slowly.
Germany is the classic example of being energy stupid. They went green crazy, sucked up to Ivan for
cheap natural gas, did away with their nuclear power plants and installed millions and millions of solar panels
all over the country. Now they are having to dig more coal to produce more power.
Yup, they dug their own hole they are now desperate to get out of.
We did not get into this climate change problem overnight and we are not going to get out of it overnight.
Nuclear power plants, solar power, forest management, smart farming can all help but the hard truth nobody
want to talk about is there are too damned many people on this planet and more are being created every day.
So maybe we need a nice nuclear war. Create nuclear winter, cut the population. Yeah, some people advocate that
crazy crap. I don't.
Every time you pop open a carbonated soft drink you are putting CO2 into the air. Your demand for those soft drinks
creates factories that pour out more CO2 into the atmosphere. It's not just power plants that pollute.
People are the worst problem.

Joe,

in Germany (as well as in the USA) wind energy has a share in energy production twice as high as solar energy.
And energy-stupid Germany has managed to cover 45% of its total energy demand from renewable energy sources in 2020.
Perhaps this is one of the reasons why per capita CO2 emissions in energy-stupid Germany are only about half of those in the United States - for example.

Unlike other countries, Germany has hardly any oil or natural gas. The largest supply of fossil energy in Germany is lignite. And for years, Germany was number one in the world in terms of lignite production. However, since the energy production with lignite emits 3 times more CO2 than the average of all other energy sources, and due to the nuclear accident in Fukushima, the energy transition was pushed forward. Not least to become as independent as possible from imports of fossil fuels. Unfortunately, this has been far too slow to achieve independence. And unfortunately, as you yourself have written, we are still waiting in vain for a breakthrough in nuclear fusion and other new technological advances.


Here ist the truth:
Perhaps the greatest stupidity of mankind - to give an allegorical example - is that it still thinks it can drive a V12 pickup truck with over 700 hp, weighing 2.5 tons and consuming over 20 liters per 100 km, to the bakery 500 meters away to get bread rolls.

« Reply #99 on: July 21, 2022, 03:59 »
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in Germany (as well as in the USA) wind energy has a share in energy production twice as high as solar energy.
And energy-stupid Germany has managed to cover 45% of its total energy demand from renewable energy sources in 2020.

That is incorrect. Renewable energy sources cover 45% of the electric power generation, not the total energy demand. The latter is covered by about 20% with renewable energy. It should also be noted that the expansion of renewable energy production has been slowed down during the last years, for a number of reasons. So we still have a very long way to go and it won't be easy and it will take long time.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why per capita CO2 emissions in energy-stupid Germany are only about half of those in the United States - for example.

And then again, France has only a little more than half the per capita CO2 emission than Germany (5 vs. 9.1 t). One of the reasons being their strong reliance on nuclear power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

Looking back, there can be little doubt that it was a mistake that Germany shut down the nuclear power generation so quickly.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2022, 04:04 by Big Toe »


 

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