Quote from: KonaHawaii on November 08, 2011, 21:06
I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!

Speaking as an illustrator....From what I've read in other threads many months ago, their illustration uploading process takes too much time and they are very, very picky. Looking at what they accept and knowing my free-hand rough style, I'd have no chance. However, looking at your style, I think it'd be worth a try (if you can handle the submission process).

Just wanted to chime in and thank you all for the feedback, positive and constructive, I'm taking notes of all of it and we'll do our best to constantly keep improving. Have a wonderful upcoming weekend everyone!

Quote from: CreatingDrew on November 09, 2011, 23:27
G'day everyone 

Thanks for all of your thoughts and feedback, I'm browsing the forums and making a note of all of them. I've just checked with the devs and we believe we're at the tail end of the bulk FTP submission issues, we're still processing some backlogged files, so I really do appreciate your patience and appreciate those of you interested in giving us a chance. We really do care about your feedback and as I've said I'm making a note of all of it

Thanks so much, hope you're all enjoying your day 

Unless you raise commissions all this is just business blaahhbla....

I just found out that after you connect to ftp, you should browse to 'bulk import'->'photos'..i think in this case, one doesn't has to move every singles file manually..

Quote from: rimglow on November 10, 2011, 17:50
I have to agree that the upload process is clunky at best. Why do we have to manually enter the name again? Why do we have to wait and come back later to submit?
I also suggest you visit your top tier competition and learn how to do it in a more professional and efficient manner.

Quote from: icefront on November 10, 2011, 16:34
You may also introduce some levels for photographers, let's say, if someone reaches x downloads, he will receive more than 25%.

I like the idea of introducing levels...  this way photographers have a target to aim and keep uploading.

Quote from: mtkang on November 11, 2011, 08:05
I just found out that after you connect to ftp, you should browse to 'bulk import'->'photos'..i think in this case, one doesn't has to move every singles file manually..

Quote from: rimglow on November 10, 2011, 17:50
I have to agree that the upload process is clunky at best. Why do we have to manually enter the name again? Why do we have to wait and come back later to submit?
I also suggest you visit your top tier competition and learn how to do it in a more professional and efficient manner.

I don't use ftp. I submit one at a time, as they are finished, from post processing.

I am very confused with the Upload system.

I managed to upload via FTP, but the pictures got (soft)rejected because the file name was used as the title. I just can't find a way to change this. If i go to the edit menu, all i can edit is the description and the keywords (tags) or write a comment for the reviewer.

Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I understood this, but what happens if i upload a batch with lets say 5 different models. Doesn't it matter which release go's where?

Still didn't manage to figure out how to change the title....

Quote from: Dantheman on November 12, 2011, 09:05

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I understood this, but what happens if i upload a batch with lets say 5 different models. Doesn't it matter which release go's where?

Still didn't manage to figure out how to change the title....

it doesn´t matter, I guess if they see more people than releases that would be a reject, regarding the title don´t know, better to have it already (IPTC)

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 01:21

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

I don´t find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier

Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?

Quote from: hofhoek on November 12, 2011, 11:34
Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?

sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%

Quote from: hofhoek on November 12, 2011, 11:34
Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?

+1 GraphicRiver has always been the same. Ultra, ultra low paying per sale. Both in terms of percentage and total charged. Fine when it is a bit of a side income and you are selling to their small community who don't buy anywhere else, but now they are stepping up their game we will be starting to eat into our own sales elsewhere, where we will be getting much more per sale.

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 11:45

Quote from: hofhoek on November 12, 2011, 11:34
Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?

sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%

Well, I think you shoot yourself in the leg. As long you are willing to sell your images this cheap you will ultimately get nothing paid at all! If you want to stay in this business you'll have to make choices.

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 10:36

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 01:21

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

I don´t find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier

When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.

Quote from: hofhoek on November 12, 2011, 13:03

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 11:45

Quote from: hofhoek on November 12, 2011, 11:34
Non exclusives get 25%. I don't understand why so many people are interested to submit. A new site which starts at this level?

sales! that the final answer, despite the low 25%

Well, I think you shoot yourself in the leg. As long you are willing to sell your images this cheap you will ultimately get nothing paid at all! If you want to stay in this business you'll have to make choices.

I believe my pictures ain´t doing much of difference actually, all top contributors are there, shall we leave them collect everything? what can we do? leave IS, DT, FT?

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 14:23

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 10:36

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 01:21

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

I don´t find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier

When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.

true but I don´t find it difficult or confusing

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 13, 2011, 00:28

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 14:23

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 10:36

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 01:21

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

I don´t find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier

When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.

true but I don´t find it difficult or confusing

It's not difficult or confusing, just unproductive and EASILY FIXABLE.

Quote from: Mantis on November 13, 2011, 01:13

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 13, 2011, 00:28

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 14:23

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 10:36

Quote from: Mantis on November 12, 2011, 01:21

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 12, 2011, 00:30

Quote from: Dantheman on November 11, 2011, 20:58
Another thing i don't understand is, how i can attach the correct model releases after uploading with ftp???

place the release(s) on the moldel_release folder, then place the pictures on the previous folder, they will go automatically to those files (after you click on process)

I am still trying to figure out that mess at 123.  They have a very un-user-friendly system because you have to leave one page to get to the model release page.

I don´t find it confusing, at 123RF you just upload your pictures, then on the website the releases and attach to them, if you do it after the FTP processing those will be the only pics there which will be easier

When you process FTP, you have to do that on a completely different page with no navigation buttons to the releases, so you have to type in a whole new URL to get to the release folder, that's what I am talking about.

true but I don´t find it difficult or confusing

It's not difficult or confusing, just unproductive and EASILY FIXABLE. As often as I bring this up, Alex or some other admin 123 chimes in here and tells me how wrong I am or how I am not getting it.  All you've done is confirm what I have been saying.  A little nav button and all is cool.

Quote from: KonaHawaii on November 08, 2011, 21:06
I'm thinking of submitting to photodune. I'd love to hear people's opinions so I know if its worth my time. I see its part of a big network of template/content sites. Cool!

Ask again in three months. Right now its the hot site people with big numbers are joining Let it settle and have more people join.

Has anyone submitted images with titles that are not caps for the first letter of each word?  I would also wonder what happens if I have more than 30 keywords.  Does it kick the image back to me or truncate the first 30?  I can tell you, if the title thing is a stickler, I am not going back to change 3,000 image titles. My titles are like: Cup of hot chocolate, not Cup Of Hot Chocolate.  I don't actually have any shots of hot chocolate but just sayin.

Quote from: disorderly on November 10, 2011, 23:34

Quote from: louoates on November 10, 2011, 23:21
I'm afraid this is just another not-ready-for-prime-time site. If and when the uploading is fixed/streamlined and if and when sales are ever generated there I may take another look.

I'd hate to try to convince you when your mind is made up.  But I find their upload system to be pretty fast and easy, at least when I combine it with FTP.  And as for sales ever being generated, PhotoDune is running third for me this month, well behind Shutterstock and half of 123RF, but ahead of all the other usual suspects.  Not bad for a site that generates no sales.

I have to agree with Disorderly, Photodune is a very fast and easy upload with fast reviews the next day. I  just joined mid-October and finished uploading my(small)portfolio last week.  Sales came right away and I now have sales daily.The one problem I did noticed was that they don't recognize commas in the description field when uploading so they will not go through in the FTP uploader.

Quote from: Sandralise on November 16, 2011, 03:59
I  just joined mid-October and finished uploading my(small)portfolio last week.  Sales came right away and I now have sales daily.

Your images are extremely high commercial value (which is great). So if u uploaded 1000 to 2000 images I'm not surprised. I don't get why you want to accept $2 to $14 for extended license sales. If you deactivated the extended license option and someone needed an extended license, they would be forced to buy it elsewhere and on any other agency you will get more.

Granted, the buyer may simply choose to license another image on PD, but there will be those who specifically want your images, and buyers know about other sites and they know how to search in Google. If buyers who know you from other sites, know you (and others) sell ELs this low, well they may just open an account at PD and again you would have lost money.