Author Topic: Adobe Announces the new Photoshop will be subscription only (Read 42545 times)

Pixart · « **Reply #50 on:** May 07, 2013, 13:02 »

Does this change anything - can I run it on a laptop and on a desktop or will that be 2 subscriptions? (I believe currently no to photoshop, yes to lightroom?)

lbarn · « **Reply #51 on:** May 07, 2013, 13:13 »

They allow 2 computers, so a laptop and desktop are acceptable. If you have a computer hardware problem, like in my case I upgraded a motherboard, and didn't deactivate the software package first, you will have to call them or use the chat to allow the upgraded computer to use the software.

nailiaschwarz · « **Reply #52 on:** May 07, 2013, 14:03 »

Quote from: lbarn on May 07, 2013, 13:13

If you have a computer hardware problem, like in my case I upgraded a motherboard, and didn't deactivate the software package first, you will have to call them or use the chat to allow the upgraded computer to use the software.

This is no longer necessary with Adobe Cloud. The process is much simpler now, you can activate your new installation, and the old ones will be disabled even if the computer is not online or even defective. I had to do that a few times (switching between 3 computers), it's much easier than with the old box versions.

TheDrift- · « **Reply #53 on:** May 07, 2013, 14:10 »

"You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline."

So you could.... Buy a 1 month subscription for £50 then use offline for 180 days....then pay another £50 and have another 180 days?!?

Seems to be such an easy way to abuse the pricing...... Surely not?

lbarn · « **Reply #54 on:** May 07, 2013, 14:11 »

My experience was with Adobe cloud not a boxed version, during January when I upgraded a motherboard. It wasn't too much of a hassle, but it wasn't automatic like you suggested.

cthoman · « **Reply #55 on:** May 07, 2013, 14:14 »

Quote from: TheDrift- on May 07, 2013, 14:10

"You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline."

So you could.... Buy a 1 month subscription for £50 then use offline for 180 days....then pay another £50 and have another 180 days?!?

Seems to be such an easy way to abuse the pricing...... Surely not?

It's a yearly subscription that bills monthly, so you couldn't do that as far as I know.

TheDrift- · « **Reply #56 on:** May 07, 2013, 14:30 »

Quote from: cthoman on May 07, 2013, 14:14

Quote from: TheDrift- on May 07, 2013, 14:10
"You will need to be online when you install and license your software. If you have an annual membership, you'll be asked to connect to the web to validate your software licenses every 30 days. However, you'll be able to use products for 180 days even if you're offline."

So you could.... Buy a 1 month subscription for £50 then use offline for 180 days....then pay another £50 and have another 180 days?!?

Seems to be such an easy way to abuse the pricing...... Surely not?

It's a yearly subscription that bills monthly, so you couldn't do that as far as I know.

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In the uk they are offering a cancel anytime option that's 70 a month?

Phil · « **Reply #57 on:** May 07, 2013, 16:54 »

Quote from: oxman on May 07, 2013, 09:44

I was talking to a friend who does alot of remote location shoots without internet connections -- the cloud will be worthless to him.

you dont have to be permanently connected. Not sure how often it checks online, but it isnt everytime. You get licences for two machines but you can actually install on more than two and when you start the software on the third it will ask to sign in and then take the licence from one of the others. When you need it back on that machine sign in again and it is back (made it sound more complicated than it is). So as long the machine without internet holds one of the licences, it doesn't check real often. I use it on my laptop and was away a couple of weeks ago without internet and it was fine.

Cant believe I just defended a subscription service

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #58 on:** May 07, 2013, 17:05 »

Quote from: Phil on May 07, 2013, 16:54

Quote from: oxman on May 07, 2013, 09:44
I was talking to a friend who does alot of remote location shoots without internet connections -- the cloud will be worthless to him.

you dont have to be permanently connected. Not sure how often it checks online, but it isnt everytime. You get licences for two machines but you can actually install on more than two and when you start the software on the third it will ask to sign in and then take the licence from one of the others. When you need it back on that machine sign in again and it is back (made it sound more complicated than it is). So as long the machine without internet holds one of the licences, it doesn't check real often. I use it on my laptop and was away a couple of weeks ago without internet and it was fine.

Cant believe I just defended a subscription service

Could subscription not be compared to Renting rather than owning the software? If you stop "renting" the software, what happens? Will it still be locally available? Do you lose online access? Does the software self-destruct on your computer?

cthoman · « **Reply #59 on:** May 07, 2013, 17:08 »

Quote from: Phil on May 07, 2013, 16:54

Cant believe I just defended a subscription service

LOL. Me too. I grumbled and cursed them a year or two ago when they basically said they weren't doing upgrades for older versions anymore. I probably called the subscription service stupid and greedy. After a year of having it though, I've been very happy with it. I even have been using Lightroom. Something I wouldn't have gotten if I bought the box version. It saved me a bunch of time last year for transferring keywords.

klsbear · « **Reply #60 on:** May 07, 2013, 18:04 »

Scott Kelby posted a Q&A Here and mentions a Single App option to subscribe to Photoshop only for $19.95 a month and if you have any version back to CS3 you get a price break, it's $10 a month for a year.

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #61 on:** May 07, 2013, 18:38 »

They'll create the subscription model and then a year or two down the road, charge a new version surcharge.

I do think it gives them less incentive to be innovative. The money was in the upgrade and you upgraded for better features. Why bother with new features?

ComfortEagle2095 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 07, 2013, 18:56 »

I was forced to upgrade from CS4 to CS6 when I got my new camera (5dmiii). I'll probably use
CS6 for a loooong time but I think maybe I should have subscribed to Photoshop on CC. I had to pay over $800 for CS6 in the box and that's over three years of subscription. If I buy a new camera during that time I'll probably have to throw CS6 away just like I did CS4.

The camera upgrade issue will probably become the thing that drives most photogs to the cloud.

gillian vann · « **Reply #63 on:** May 07, 2013, 18:58 »

I just disappointed that now we effectively are "renting" the software. The only perk would be if, like a gym membership, I can take 3 months off from time to time without penalty.

THP Creative · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2013, 19:16 »

Im not really a fan of this at all, but the only perk I can see is the 2 licenses thing, 1 for desktop 1 for laptop.

But a question on this - does anyone know for sure if you can have 1 license Mac and 1 license PC under the same subscription?

My wife still has a PC

Ed · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2013, 20:51 »

My perspective...

http://edendicott.com/blog/2013/5/adobe-drops-a-bombshell-on-independent-photographers

shotupdave · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2013, 21:48 »

Quote from: Ed on May 07, 2013, 20:51

My perspective...

http://edendicott.com/blog/2013/5/adobe-drops-a-bombshell-on-independent-photographers

I could not agree more, what happens later, are we be going forced to "rent" our cameras from Nikon or Canon

gillian vann · « **Reply #68 on:** May 07, 2013, 23:44 »

Quote from: Microstock Man on May 07, 2013, 19:16

Im not really a fan of this at all, but the only perk I can see is the 2 licenses thing, 1 for desktop 1 for laptop.

But a question on this - does anyone know for sure if you can have 1 license Mac and 1 license PC under the same subscription?

My wife still has a PC

if you could have one a pc and one of a mac that's a +1 for this new system.

THP Creative · « **Reply #69 on:** May 07, 2013, 23:50 »

Quote from: gillian on May 07, 2013, 23:44

Quote from: Microstock Man on May 07, 2013, 19:16
Im not really a fan of this at all, but the only perk I can see is the 2 licenses thing, 1 for desktop 1 for laptop.

But a question on this - does anyone know for sure if you can have 1 license Mac and 1 license PC under the same subscription?

My wife still has a PC

if you could have one a pc and one of a mac that's a +1 for this new system.

Yeah I agree, just haven't heard a definitive answer if you can though? It SEEMS that way, but I'd want to be sure.

nailiaschwarz · « **Reply #70 on:** May 08, 2013, 00:13 »

Quote from: Microstock Man on May 07, 2013, 23:50

Quote from: gillian on May 07, 2013, 23:44
Quote from: Microstock Man on May 07, 2013, 19:16
Im not really a fan of this at all, but the only perk I can see is the 2 licenses thing, 1 for desktop 1 for laptop.

But a question on this - does anyone know for sure if you can have 1 license Mac and 1 license PC under the same subscription?

My wife still has a PC

if you could have one a pc and one of a mac that's a +1 for this new system.

Yeah I agree, just haven't heard a definitive answer if you can though? It SEEMS that way, but I'd want to be sure.

Yes, that's no problem. I did this before I had the MB Pro, I used to have a HP Laptop with Win7. No Problems to mix 1 Mac + 1 PC.

sharpshot · « **Reply #71 on:** May 08, 2013, 02:41 »

I think when they have enough people on subscriptions, they will start putting the price up. I don't know why more people aren't thinking of switching to one of the many good alternatives to Photoshop? For those that want something familiar, try Photoshop Elements with the ElementsXXL plugin. It does almost everything Photoshop does at a fraction of the price.

aspp · « **Reply #72 on:** May 08, 2013, 03:23 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 08, 2013, 02:41

I think when they have enough people on subscriptions, they will start putting the price up. I don't know why more people aren't thinking of switching to one of the many good alternatives to Photoshop? For those that want something familiar, try Photoshop Elements with the ElementsXXL plugin. It does almost everything Photoshop does at a fraction of the price.

Elements probably does not have a long term future. Domestic users and hobbyists (the Elements target group) are increasingly switching to tablet devices. For most of what most Elements users want to do a tablet app will be ideal.

Traditional computers and productivity software will increasingly be a niche only required by people who need to do stuff which tablets are not yet suitable for. Until at some point tablets are good enough for processing.

rubyroo · « **Reply #73 on:** May 08, 2013, 16:31 »

Well it had to happen... someone's done one of those Hitler spoof vids on the CC issue. I love these things:)

(Contains swearing):


Hitler learns about Adobe's new Creative Cloud model.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 08, 2013, 17:45 »

That is hilarious!

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