Quote from: thx9000 on July 20, 2022, 08:30
It has been discussed over and over again. Pond5 sets different prices for different markets/countries. Use a proxy and see that for yourself. Nothing to do with discounts. People choose to believe in the strangest conspiracies even when the explanation is right before their eyes. Not defending pond5 btw, what they do is highly questionable.

So, are you saying that should explain such a large difference between my list price of $57.00 USD (shown against the video) vs their's (on the sales report) at $26.00? That's a lot.

Anyway, I just got 3 more. That makes 6 in the last 3 days.

I am going to write to them.

Another HD example sold today:
asked $79, listed $79 (but shown as $87.5 under the finance tab), sold for $102.5

I wrote to P5 about my situation above and yes, THX9000 was absolutely correct. Here is part of P5's response:

QuoteDepending on the market prices of each region, the price shown to a buyer might be different than to another buyer from a different country.

As an example, the --HD version of < title of my video > -- costs at the moment $30 when it's purchased from Mexico, for example and it shows a price of $75 when the buyer is from the USA.

The goal here is to offer the optimal price in our marketplace for each country (or region), in order to increase the sales and make the most revenue for our artists. Please note this only applies to non-exclusive footage in our marketplace.

Important to note, it only applies to non-exclusive footage.

All else aside, I was very impressed with P5's superfast reply and also in helping me with another matter.

Been disappointed with Pond5 with no sales for the month despite it having more than 100 videos uploaded (ie: compared to the next agency which has had 20 video sales so far this month).

Noticed a spike in views on Pond5 yesterday, logged in this morning and nothing. But later got the email to show the following sale. Asking price for HD = $79.00, listed price = $57.00, selling price = $118.98, commission = $47.59.

@annie,

so I learned something important, I had no idea that this is how it worked.

I have always loved the pond5 support, they are fantastic.

Hope SS allows their team and their forum to survive. And that artists can continue to discuss freely without having to fear instant port delete.

If they fully merge, they should let pond5 handle community and support.

The asking price doesn't matter anymore on pond5. I closed my account and now I'm looking for an alternative, any ideas? Thank you.

The strangest thing I see on P5 is that statistics with views are completely disconnected from sales: I see in last months really good sales, also with high prices, and poor months with maybe 10% of usual sales.
But the statistics seems very steady.
I know that fluctuation is normal, and also I'm not talking about large number of sales, I have about twenty clips sales for months. BTW, the fluctuation is great and it has no link at all with view statistics.

I have had 10 4k video sales so far this year with my non-exclusive portfolio.
Only one 4k sale was billed correctly (individual license).
Seven 4k sales were sold at a price of $28 instead of $50 with individual license.
One 4k sale were sold at a price of $14 instead of $50 with LLP license.

And one 4k video was sold with a premium license, for which the customer would normally have had to pay $50 + $299.
P5 sold the video for list price $20. NLR Price : $68. And I got $27,20 instead of $139,60.

Quote from: Findura on September 16, 2022, 13:21
I have had 10 4k video sales so far this year with my non-exclusive portfolio.
Only one 4k sale was billed correctly (individual license).
Seven 4k sales were sold at a price of $28 instead of $50 with individual license.
One 4k sale were sold at a price of $14 instead of $50 with LLP license.

And one 4k video was sold with a premium license, for which the customer would normally have had to pay $50 + $299.
P5 sold the video for list price $20. NLR Price : $68. And I got $27,20 instead of $139,60.

Had similar experiences and their response was that they have the flexibility to negotiate prices with customers, usually corporate ones.  So while we can set our own prices, it's not too often I see the actual price I listed used.  Hell, I had a sale last week where I made like $6 for a HD listed at $79 (prob sub)

Has everyone's revenue from subscription video sales dropped to 0?

i removed most of my portfolio from Pond5, and looking for another agency. Pond5 is not trustable anymore...

A new low on Pond5: a video listed as $79 gets sold for $7.74....Netting me $3.10

What a joke.

Subscription prices have probably gone down in september.
P5 exclusive video (subs) RPD : $3.86
P5 non-exclusive video (subs) RPD : $4.61

This is brand new. The subs RPD has never been less than $10 on my non-exclusive account.
And on my exclusive account, the subs RPD has been $15 on average.

I will still watch this this year and if it stays like this, then next year I will delete my P5 subscriptions.

Officially, no such massive price cuts are seen on the P5 site. What's going on there?

What you are seeing is the continued erosion of stock.  Anyone can do all the analysis of a stock site they want but the bottom line is that P5 is doing what they do to remain competitive.  And the contributor, as usual, is the recipient of the lower royalties.  It's only going to get worse.  I see videos I shot that I have prices at $200 (because they are unique) sell where I get $5.  When I write P5 their answer is that they have the power to negotiate 'corporate packs' and special 'high volume' deals. This is irrespective of subs per se, rather to say that it really doesn't matter how you price your assets, P5 has the ultimate say.  I still get occasional "retail" sales, but not often.

What's up with their idea of ​​opening a Hyperstock website? Why is it still not there. I'm interested in uploading my video there.

Everytime I see a sale there's always some kind of discount involved.

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 06, 2022, 20:26
What's up with their idea of ​​opening a Hyperstock website? Why is it still not there. I'm interested in uploading my video there.

didn't you hear? the website has been shut down. It was on the air for a week i think.

Featuring unlimited downloads for a small fee... specially in the current days where people are training ai models. Will you be interest ? giving all of your work of years for 30/50 euros? Then after training my models or download all your work for all kind of use will you be still in business?

Due to the high negative feedback from contributors including myself it was closed. Best thing they did and thanks to Pond5 for listening to their contributors.

Evaristo tenscadisto, I have a different opinion. I upload my video to similar sites and my income is normal.

Just had a video sell for $26 despite me setting the price at $89, so my earnings were $10.40. The license was called "Enterprise Custom License 20180801". I wonder what's the point being able to set your own price when it rarely ever sells for it anyway.

My new strategy is to not do too much work or spend too much money (if any) to get new shots.  So, I will not be lugging my high quality DSLR-style camera out very often, but rather, I'll be shooting more on my iPhone.  Mostly things I come across naturally.   I won't be doing too much planning going forward.

If buyers want to pay little-to-nothing, they'll be getting iPhone footage from me.  And if those clips don't get approved by the agencies, I won't fret over it.

Quote from: ch000 on October 14, 2022, 01:52
Just had a video sell for $26 despite me setting the price at $89, so my earnings were $10.40. The license was called "Enterprise Custom License 20180801". I wonder what's the point being able to set your own price when it rarely ever sells for it anyway.

Depending on which country you bought it. Pond has different prices for different countries.