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I can perhaps shed some light on this since I have I have a decent illustrative editorial port,not big but already ok.

when I left Istock,immediately after I started uploading illustrative editorials to Adobe,types of content that Istock did not accept,in the rejections Istock indicated that they were sorry but they could not sell this type of editorial.

On SS my illustrative editorials are my best sellers,I sell them every day,it's incredible.

on Adobe,when I started uploading them about 3 years ago I started selling them often,so much so that today I have 20 on the first page,so the short answer is yes,on Adobe illustrative editorials sell well.

This year,on Adobe however,I have sold fewer than usual,but I am also uploading fewer illustrative editorials than usual.

Today I just sold 2 illustrative editorials on Adobe.

at the moment I'm stuck with the illustrative editorials,but I'm always there ready to start again,I'll probably produce new ones soon,it clearly depends on many factors,I still have things to evaluate,I also have to see how it goes.

The illustrative editorials that I produce are images that generally require at least an hour of post-production,but often even 2-3 hours.






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@ Andrej.S. thanks and good luck to you too.

@ HalfFull congrats,it must be a great satisfaction!  :)

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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 21, 2025, 05:08 »
I would also add that a limit of 1000 AI contents per month approved equally for everyone is a better choice also because the AI ​​contents produced today are better than the AI ​​contents produced a year ago,just as the AI ​​contents produced in a year will be better than those produced today.

for this reason too,a more gradual growth of the AI ​​collection would certainly be a better choice.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 21, 2025, 04:32 »
@gnirtS I was talking about AI content,the scenario you describe is another story.

all this always in relation to the contents rejected for similar content because already in the Adobe Stock library,this is what I'm talking about.

What I'm saying is that it's simply not fair that contributors should have to pay the consequences for mistakes that others have made.

some/many were allowed to upload 20000+ AI contents in a year and now we have to pay the consequences of this,I think this is wrong.

I also believe that the solution to the problem is not to reject it but lies in the management of the library.

In my opinion,we should allow everyone equally,talent or not,to accept a maximum of 1000 AI contents per month,because 1000 are already a lot,or rather it should have been done before,now I don't think it's possible to have more than 1000 contents accepted per month.

I am not the one who allowed more than 1000 AI contents to be uploaded per month,so I am not the one who has to pay the consequences,and this applies to all contributors like me,who try to produce quality AI contents,at least try,they are not the ones who have to pay the consequences of this error.

finding a better solution is inevitable,I'm sure it will happen,I think that all this is just temporary,cannot last for many reasons,and I am sure that they will find a solution to the problem,or soon it will not be possible to upload anything anymore,because it will all be similar to content already present in the library.


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another day of uploads is over...come on Adobe,approve everything don't be nasty!  :)

for the rest..i can barely define the shape of this moment in time!


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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 20, 2025, 11:03 »
@Cobalt "Why should adobe stop the uploads of someone who understands what customers like?"

not to stop,but to limit.

in the absurd hypothesis that Adobe had done as I said in 2023,we would not find ourselves in this situation,do you agree?

I had proposed a limit of 500 AI contents maximum per month per contributor,but probably 1000 would be even more fair,but no more for each contributor.

come on,1000 contents per month accepted at most for each contributor I think is enough,and then it pushes people to be more selective.

but now,you,me and everyone are complaining (rightly,in this case imo) because Adobe rejects similar content,not only in comparison to its own port,but also to the entire library.

this,in addition to being wrong,because as you said,you no longer have control of your port,I agree with you,it is wrong,because if the content have quality and commercial value,I also have the right to sell this content,even if there are already millions similar on Adobe Stock.

so,as I was saying,besides being wrong,it is also counterproductive for a whole series of businesses that revolve around content generation,including firefly.

so here,in my opinion,the real problem is that we are still in a primordial phase,in which is not known how to manage such a large library.

That's why over time,Adobe will gain experience in managing this type of content,and experience in selling this type of content,and unfortunately we have found ourselves in the middle of this ongoing evolution.

but for me,the important thing is the will to solve problems,which I see in Adobe Stock,which is always there looking for new solutions and strategies,if there is the will,everything will be solved,unfortunately for us it takes time.

this fact of rejecting similar content in comparison to the library,is like trying to repair the cylinder head of an engine with electrical tape!  :D




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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 20, 2025, 05:09 »
@DiscreetDuck happy Easter!  :D


then,as I was saying,they are two completely distinct things,what I think about the future of microstock and what I think about my future in microstock.

about the future of microstock I have no doubt that things will recover,and rejections especially for content similar compared to what is already in the library will decrease,because new ways will be found to show content to customers so that everyone can show their work,in equal measure.

regarding my future in microstock instead,everything will depend on what will happen in the next 2 months,and that's what I'm stressed about,I hope I don't have any nasty surprises,and I won't explain why here,but there are some very specific reasons why this is the case,as far as I'm concerned.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 19, 2025, 17:35 »
Well Adobe could be a gold mine if there would be no algorithm / ranking shifts or rejection rates / deleting of images.

You can't plan with Adobe for the next months or years.
You can only try to squeeze the last dollars before the coming big collapse in some years.

2500 USD / month (just 625 USD / week) with 20000 images sounds very managable. One member named half_full is making 1000 USD / week with the same sized portfolio.

But I guess the problem is more that you won't upload that much content so fast as in the last years anymore because Adobe will increase massively the rejection rate.

and here we disagree.

I think the fact that they are cleaning ibrary is better,while you think it's not.

then you think about the great collapse that according to you will happen in a few years,I instead think that there won't be one,in my opinion there will be an evolution,not a collapse.

imo we are only experiencing a first phase,in which things have to settle down.

I agree instead on "no algorithm / ranking shifts" but unfortunately this is not possible,and you know very well why,but clearly this too can be improved and will surely improve in the future.

as for "rejection rates" it seems to me that the review have become more efficient and have already had a taste of the "evolution" I was telling you about.

we are in the midst of a microstock revolution,which until 3 years ago was a completely different job,imo nothing more than this.



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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 19, 2025, 07:47 »
no,my expectations have not changed,I did not reach my goal last year,but I decided to take responsibility and do everything in my power to change things,and above all try a new path.

but basically I haven't changed my expectations,in fact we are still in April,and in 2 months from now I will know if things can change for me or not,for reasons that as I said I don't intend to discuss here.

then I don't know why you have to waste time looking for sentences written by me a year ago in a completely different situation,don't you have anything better to do?  :D


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Adobe Stock / Re: Sudden downfall in downloads
« on: April 19, 2025, 05:34 »
I know someone who uploaded 20,000 images from summer 2023 to summer 2024 and earned $31,000,which is about $2,500 per month.

This is probably why many of us are unable to earn as much as we should in a pre-AI situation.

Unfortunately I cannot verify if this information is true,but it is likely true.

if it's true,In my opinion this is wrong and should be avoided,Adobe shouldn't allow a single contributor to upload 20,000 images in a year,that's just too much.

but this happened at the beginning,now something like this can't happen anymore,Adobe is already fixing it by cleaning up the library for example,and should probably try to stop accepting content from people who uploaded that much,or just remove at least half of the content from people who uploaded more than 1000 AI content per month,while it should give more space to those who upload less content more regularly.

It seems to me that Adobe has already started this policy,which is necessary for the future of Adobe Stock,so things should improve in the future.

At the moment we are still suffering the impact of this flood,but soon I hope and believe it should get better.

I hope the review team has a chance to see who uploads this content and HOW MANY they have already uploaded.

I'm sure the Adobe Stock team knows better than us what they're doing and I hope things will get better soon.

as far as I'm concerned,lately the review seem right to me,I have nothing to complain about,i have approved content and rejected content in a normal level.

I will also spend Easter Sunday working and the future of this work for me with Adobe Stock will depend a lot on what happens in the next 2 months at most,for some reasons that I won't write here.

I will soon know what my future will be,for now I just have to keep working.

Happy Easter to all of you fellow contributors and the entire Adobe Stock team!  :)

we need a better future,help us make it happen!

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Adobe Stock / Re: How are your Adobe sales going?
« on: April 17, 2025, 02:16 »
I too have earned more on SS than on Adobe so far this month,even though my Adobe port is bigger,but I think it's a temporary situation,it won't last,and soon I'll be back to earning more on Adobe again.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Files being removed from port
« on: April 17, 2025, 02:04 »
as far as I'm concerned, even a part-time salary is fine with me,I never thought I would get rich and famous with microstock.

However,i think that this is just a transitional moment,and that in the near future more effective and faster ways will be found to solve all the problems we know,like copycats,slow reviews,rejections for similar content already in the library,thieves...

This is still an early stage of a radical event that began only 2-3 years ago.

then we must also consider that the future of microstock and of us contributors depends not only on how events on Adobe Stock develop,but there are many more things at stake in a broader vision.

to put it simply,in the absurd event that Adobe Stock stops accepting content,this will impact a whole host of businesses outside of Adobe,so it can't happen,just as it can't happen that 90% of the contents are rejected,because it would be the same, just as it can't happen that thieves and copycats continue to do as they want.

The problems are there,and they are known,and Adobe has always moved in the right direction, so I don't see why it shouldn't continue to do so.

this is just a transitional moment,the prehistory of modern microstock,things will be different and better in the future,with new tools available,to resolve any potential problems.

It's an inevitable consequence,there's a lot of money and a lot of business at stake,it can't be otherwise.

There are problems,but there is also the will to solve them,otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to clean up the library,or they wouldn't have bothered to impose the new rule of only one account unless absolutely necessary,otherwise they would have already lowered the royalties,otherwise the contributor bonus would not be given,otherwise they would never have accepted the AI ​​contents... otherwise many things!

It's a difficult time,but it will pass,there are no alternatives,then anyway it's certainly not easy to manage all this,as I said it's easy to criticize,but the situation is very complex,keep up with the times and at the same time try to please everyone,it's difficult.

then as far as I'm concerned,the future of this work for me,depends on the development that will take place in the near future.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Files being removed from port
« on: April 16, 2025, 16:23 »
I don't think contributors will abandon Adobe,simply because Adobe is the best agency,where else do you want to go?  :D

Unless you are exclusive to some exclusive agency,there are no better agencies than Adobe out there.

and I say this even though I'm a low-earner,but that's another story,that's my fault.

sure,I could earn more,but we must also consider that we are many,many Adobe Stock contributors.

There are problems?yes there are,but that doesn't mean they can't be solved,and I'm more than sure that they will be solved,just as I'm more than sure that there will be more problems,that's life!

at the moment there are still rejections for similar,but simply because at the moment things work differently than they will in the future,as new ways to manage the library will be found,and it will no longer be necessary to reject for similar,but more than anything for aesthetic or commercial quality of the content.


Let's try not to forget that it's always easy to criticize,and that we contributors don't have the whole picture,while the Adobe Stock team has a broader vision of everything,and that it's not easy to manage the enraged herd of contributors thirsty for sales!  :D


In the meantime,I'm working hard in a completely new direction,my goal is to improve and modernize my portfolio.

I'm also a bit stressed by the long review times,also because I'm experimenting with a new production,and I would clearly like to move faster,at a time when unfortunately moving quickly is difficult.

I have to keep believing,I can't afford to give up.

we can do it Adobe!

keep it up!

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Microstock Services / Re: AI metadata generation options?
« on: April 14, 2025, 07:48 »
I use a tool which I can generate up to 2000 images a day with no cost for images. And different tool for video. Works for me.

I dont intend to invest too much time into this. Especially if the reward is less than 10 pence

Are you sure these free AI models producing content that is allowed for commercial use?

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Microstock Services / Re: AI metadata generation options?
« on: April 11, 2025, 07:01 »
upload an image to SS and use the keyword tool,then simply copy and paste wherever you want.  :)

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Microstock Services / Re: AI metadata generation options?
« on: April 11, 2025, 06:46 »
I simply use content that I already have in my port to copy keywords from content that is similar in subject or concept,then i review them and add some more pertinent to the subject.

not always but generally,when I upload content to AS I upload 2 copies,I send one,and I keep one among the contents to be sent with the indexing already copied from the same content sent,so in case of rejection,if I want to make changes and send again,I just copy the indexing data from the content I left.

If I want to send this content to other agencies in the future,I simply copy the indexing from the content that is in my AS port.

This is because if the content is rejected it is still possible to copy the title but not the keywords.


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Microstock Services / Re: AI metadata generation options?
« on: April 11, 2025, 03:06 »
I can't help you because I don't use AI to automate the indexing process.

from what I've seen you can get decent results,but generally you still have to review the title and check the keywords,so I find it easier to write everything myself.

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productive day for me,definitely a step forward!  :)

@Andrej.S. those descriptions look like they were generated by a bot!  :D

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe - Similar Image(s) Already Submitted
« on: April 10, 2025, 04:55 »
There is still a lot to do,but we can say that the genres with the highest sales potential are definitely crowded,at least when it comes to photos

the only solution is trying to produce original way,which is certainly not simple,always with regards to photos,while for videos, vectors and illustrations there is still space.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe - Similar Image(s) Already Submitted
« on: April 09, 2025, 13:54 »
I too have had rejections for similar content,when in reality there was nothing similar in my port,then I read on the Adobe pages that the rejection for similar content is also related to the Adobe Stock library.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Where Are the Customers?
« on: April 09, 2025, 13:48 »
This is a shocking situation,everything is going to hell!

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and then how do you explain this?

If there have been weeks where I have made these numbers,it means that it is possible that I can very well make an average of 20-40 sales a week.

this year so far the best week has been 14 sales,excuse me,I'm also a little tired?

Adobe punished your portfolio ranking.
One can only guess what the reason was.

Have you uploaded to many similar images?
Got too much competition in best selling categories?
How good is your portfolio diversified?

I mean instead of beeing angry and upset you should either doing other things or analyze and try other content.

but I'm not angry,I'm just very disappointed.

I'm already trying other ways,for example with AI videos,but are still in review since 12 days.

I'll try downloading Premiere Pro soon and processing this AI videos differently,hoping that somehow they will be accepted sooner or later,I have already used Premiere Pro or even Illustrator,a couple of years ago I had all the Adobe apps,another thing i would like to try is AI vectors too.

I'm still looking for other ways,but in any case,the number of sales I've made since the beginning of the year is really depressing.


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anyway Andrej.S. well done,nice content and nice descriptions.

but do you have real content?videos?vectors?illustrative editorials?real photos?illustrations?

I also have all this real content,yet I can't even make 20 sales a week!

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and then how do you explain this?

If there have been weeks where I have made these numbers,it means that it is possible that I can very well make an average of 20-40 sales a week.

this year so far the best week has been 14 sales,excuse me,I'm also a little tired?


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Look,when it comes to keywording I'm I'm very thorough,since I do all the keywording by hand,I don't use software to automate the process.

otherwise,i don't see why i should compare someone else's content to mine here.

and then putting aside the AI ​​contents,I also have thousands of real contents.

I'm more than sure that anyone would say that with a port like mine now,I think a minimum of 20 sales a week is normal,less than that is just not acceptable anymore.

I say this because I think it's right to say it,you or anyone else may not believe it,I don't care.

I remind you that I have been doing this job for 7 years,and I'm saying that a minimum of at least 20 a week would be more appropriate,I didn't say 100 per week!

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