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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: July 15, 2020, 06:04 »
From here on its all downhill and if one accepts this deal then next year you be working for 0.2c per sale and so on! they had it all in the palm of their hand and blew it sky high!
Even if they get over this which they will their name is tarnished forever and buyers will eventually react! in the creative circle a bad name is the very worst that can happen a service and sooner or later they will bite the dust.

wishful thinking -misquoting Keynes 'sooner or later we all bite the dust'

buyers don't care and probably don't even know -  as 'everyone' keeps saying SS is making more $$
The fun part is that they are also pissing off the buyers as a lot of sites show. So pissed employees, pissed buyers and now super pissed contriburors. It'll survive for a few years but this tree is rotting from within and will fall

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Wonder if the search ranking line means that now once deactivated, images lose all ranking points and start from 0 again on re-enabling...
Doubt it, even SHUTTERSTOCK wants to show its best sellers up front

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So shutterstock just put in a message that once you disable content you can't turn it on for 30 days. And that it'll negatively affect performance

Wow, these people just don't let up on the arm twisting and scare tactics. Since when did having a fair dialog go out of style



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These are the top investing funds that have money in shutterstock. Is there merit in marking them in all tweets, sending mails to support teams etc and give them a warning that this stock is about to lose the very product they sell.

There are a lot of people here, these funds might be money focussed but they all want consistent revenues, something that can't happen if contributors flee

https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xnys/sstk/executive

Also maybe the other board of directors might be a little more smart to the problem

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Actually the choice here is harder, sell on Shutterstock were sales volume has been higher but while the buyer pays the same amount you get a smaller fraction. Or move entirely to Adobe, Pond5 etc, build up volume again but each sale gets you a larger share.

Pure maths says that 10c at shutterstock vs 0.36 at Adobe means that you'll break even with one third the volume share at adobe. This is much higher for vids with the new sales averages.

Moving (and shutting off SS) makes sense long term as people switch to platforms that have good content. However short term the temptation is to stay on with already created content and leech off more money from SS but harm long term.



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Absolutely, lots of tweets, but we'll need tons more retweets, hashtag mentions if we want people to take notice.

Jo ann is a star, as are some other regulars like CH media etc

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One comment, stock prices are driven by sentiment more than actual numbers. Masses have sold stock based on tweets, comments and some financial advisers comments despite the company being sound. SHUTTERSTOCK does NOT SEEM TO BE SOUND

Suggestions
1. We tag $sstk in all tweets about people leaving
2. Lets tag publications like the wall street journal, simply wall street, major investors etc
3. Highlight the crappy quality of content, share holders don't want to be holding a hollow company.
4. I'm not sure if the coalition can actively help, but reaching out to financial publications and explaining the issue could get an article out or change their financial recommendations

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Yup, had a couple of friends asking me about the 0.38 $ vid downloads too. How nice of shutterstock to help us in convincing people to boycott shutterstock. Guess we now know the next set of tweets/PR statements/messages to buyers we need to highlight

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Mr. Crafty is at it again
« on: June 24, 2020, 12:59 »
Incase you missed the fireworks

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I don't use twitter. I just did a search on there for shutterstock and a lot of positive stuff comes up, you have to search boycottshutterstock to get the news.
Is this because people aren't also hash-tagging #shutterstock? (sorry I know this is dumb)
Most seem to be but there are a ton of probably paid tweeters posting link to their portfolios (most of which are empty) or random SS images just to keep the hashtag clean.

It helps if you search for Shutterstock and Boycottshutterstock and like all the relevant tweets or even retweet marking some buyer/media accounts

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I just deleted my account yesterday.
#boycottShutterstock

P.S. Can we get this hashtag to trend on twitter?
We definitely should, make sure to like all posts with the hashtag, retweet the ones you can, follow accounts that are posting regularly with that hashtag like jo anns. Ensure you put in posts with the hashtag as well.

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Hi I really like this site but I am getting this today "Server error
An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details." Is anyone else having trouble?

I have recovered it. Thank you for message
Absolutely love the callout you have on your site regarding the 10c royalties of shutterstock. Thanks for fighting with us

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There is also this great writeup about the whole gagging

https://t.co/n86sgoq15j

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That might help, reddit has been amazing at providing reach and support. I'm just surprised there isn't a microstock subreddit there

Care to start a post and share links here. We can chime in and push it up

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So things to do till now
1. App rating
2. Glassdoor reviews
3. Tweet/mail a publication/journalist
4. Reverse search image, tweet/mail them to not use shutterstock
5. Find a contributor in your nice, make them join

Will start some of these today, would request others to do this as well and spread the word.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: June 20, 2020, 00:03 »
Unfortunately, the only way to avoid this is to delete your port as opposed to disabling it.  My port is disabled and I have accepted that the SS game for me is over. So I'll ride this out for a bit longer before I carve out the time to manually delete my work.  For me personally, that's phase two.
There is a very helpful script (ssremover) to remove files from SS in a batch. Explanations are here (nothing complicated) : https://www.microstockgroup.com/35653/35653/msg552685/#msg552685
Would it be possible to make a script to automatically like all tweets with #BoycottShutterstock on twitter. If we all ran it daily we'd get some really good reach of the hashtag

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Social networks works so hard to avoid it, you can create the script but twiter will so likely to delete or punish your account.

I use python language, it works well !

For twiter bots?
Yes , with the twython module(there are other ones).
twitter provides an API.

I can give you the code if tou want
Yes please, it could help spread the word

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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: June 19, 2020, 11:37 »
Unfortunately, the only way to avoid this is to delete your port as opposed to disabling it.  My port is disabled and I have accepted that the SS game for me is over. So I'll ride this out for a bit longer before I carve out the time to manually delete my work.  For me personally, that's phase two.
There is a very helpful script (ssremover) to remove files from SS in a batch. Explanations are here (nothing complicated) : https://www.microstockgroup.com/35653/35653/msg552685/#msg552685
Would it be possible to make a script to automatically like all tweets with #BoycottShutterstock on twitter. If we all ran it daily we'd get some really good reach of the hashtag

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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: June 18, 2020, 03:59 »
Hashtag spamming at its best. Some lead to empty profiles, some to very random pictures

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Sure Jo Ann, thr only problem was that this discussion was getting lost there in all the deactivation updates

The urgency is that while most will deactivate for a week or two what happens if SS does not respond at all. Some next steps are critical and need to be thought of and discussed. Else this will become one more slight that will get forgotten



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I have another idea...

Maybe several contributors are non-native english (as me) and maybe several of them also just dont speak english, we can create several posts in different languages and write in these languages posts in SS forum with specific link to the post in this forum that speak about the actions to do in specific language.
This makes a lot of sense, especially if these posts were also on facebook, twitter and everywhere else. Could be the reason we can't spread the word widely

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Right. So the question we should be asking is what do buyers care about and what will influence them.

My guess is relevant updated content, good pricing, good buying experience (which SS seems to be bad on from all the reviews), being seen as supporting a social cause.

What do they fear?  getting overcharged?

Please do shoot down or add to this list.

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The bigger problem is that SS seems to be betting on all of us pouring energy initially and then getting tired and coming back to them like beaten sheep.

The question is how do we ensure we migrate money & spends to where it helps us also.
- App ratings influence buyers
- Honest reviews that SS keeps charging even after a subscription ends also moves them
- Lets also push the positive, how good Adobe/Pond5 is
- Maybe a dialogue with Adobe, Pond5 could help start a buyer referral scheme, I'm sure even the non active folks would push buyers there for a chance to earn (incidentally something SS did well)
- How do we stop being faceless to the buyers?

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So while profile activation and deactivation will happen lets stay ahead of the curve and figure out how else we can get our point across to Shutterstock.

Some ideas seen till now
1. Contact buyers, suggest move to Adobe
2. Media - especially places that buyers frequent
3. Youtube, Insta influencers talking points
4. Spread the word on deactivations

We are supposed to be creative people, what else comes to mind

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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: June 16, 2020, 08:34 »
Has anyone noticed A LOT of random people spamming the shutterstock hashtag on twitter posting their portfolio (most of the portfolios are empty) and many (very badly written) paid articles talking about how awesome SS is

Examples for your enjoyment

https://www.techotn.com/shutterstock-price-india/amp/?__twitter_impression=true



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ONE REQUEST

go through the twitter hashtags with #shutterstock #BoycottShutterstock #nolongeratshutterstock and like (heart) all the posts that support the movement. Liking it exponentially increases the reach. Retweet also if you can. Lets be heard tomorrow

Bonus tip, tag key news providers in your country

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