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...if I was still at least 40 years old....

I just turned 40 ! I have a lifetime of uploads ahead of me  :)

that's right,you're lucky!  :)

I started in microstock at 43 years old,almost seven years ago.

I've been taking photos since I was 13,I bought my first reflex,Yashica fx-3 s2000,it was the end of the 80s.  :)

ironic how at the time I could afford to buy all the equipment I wanted,and it was just a hobby,but today it has become very,very difficult to do anything.

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but for you it's different,even on a bad day like this you ended up making at least 30 sales,if not more,in short you always sell anyway.

for me it's a different story,to still have a minimum of hope,I would have to sell at least every month like November,at this point in the journey,with my current port.

unfortunately,as I have already said,if I was still at least 40 years old,I still had time,but now at almost 50 years old I no longer have time.

this is a subjective thing,it depends on one's condition,if I had a different situation,I could certainly still afford to wait a few years,but unfortunately it is not my situation.

as I already told you,in the first 20 days of January 2024 I made the exact same number of sales that I have now made in the first 20 days of January 2025,the exact same number of sales,It's definitely not a coincidence,it just can't be statistically.

so it seems clear to me that I will still have to wait a few years before seeing concrete/acceptable results,if ever.

so I'll stop here for now.

I will continue to monitor the situation,if/when I start to see at least a similar number of sales to November,I will resume uploading.

the other agencies?which agencies?SS is finished,IS you have to sell your soul to make 100 usd more a month,which other agencies?

if I can't even earn something decent on Adobe,it's not worth trying anything else in my opinion,and then you know that I'm done with IS.

it's very likely that I'm screwed!  :D

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again...today January 20,2025 I have the same exact number of sales as I had on January 20,2024.

it's completely demotivating,I uploaded 1935 new contents last year,if I also add to this the fact that old contents should sell more even without new uploads,all this is completely demotivating.

in all honesty it's just not possible to sell so little with the portfolio I have today,I'm certainly not saying that I should sell 10 times more,but at least 2-3 times more than I sell.

It's possible that this is my bad month,but February and March will tell the truth.

Adobe...waaakee uuupppp!  :D



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in fact,the point of discussion is the name of a city or country,We don't think the same way about this.

using the name of a real city or country is allowed.

the name of a city is not the name of a copyrighted architecture,the name of a city or a country are not protected,they do not have copyright,and can therefore be used freely,even in AI-generated content.

if instead it is architecture protected by copyright,clearly the name cannot be used.



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of course,I said tomato because writing tomato or Roma or Italian stylemakes no difference to me.

I have to index the content correctly then if someone uses AI content irresponsibly it is certainly not my fault because I wrote Roma.

I say Sydney and you bring up some obscure similar name that could cause a problem in two languages, when translated. Nice try. Can you do that for Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, San Francisco, and 98% of the other city names, mountain names, people and fake AI images, that shouldn't use real names or real name places in their keywords and identification? Probably not.

I don't care if you make AI or not, that's your choice. I choose not to, and maybe if you did photos, you wouldn't shoot what I enjoy and upload. All OK with me.

I'm looking for a little integrity in what people upload, especially when it's a false representation, of a real place. Or a picture of someone, that's not that person. You can't make a fake AI sports car and say it's a picture of a Ferrari, and shouldn't because... It's Not What you claim it is. That's dishonest, just as labeling a Roma tomato as a watermelon, when it's not.

Yeah, it would be terrible if people got confused between a Roma and the city Roma and couldn't tell the difference in under 5 seconds. Yet you defend outright fraud in labeling a fake AI image as a real place?  ;D  :o

I understand your concerns, and I partially share them,but i also know it's gone.

we now live in a dystopian world,because the innate need in human beings for something different,new,unreal world.

just look at tv shows,movies,among the most succesful there are several dystopian ones,which I also really appreciate.

AI text to image or video,are the perfect example of the need for something different,new,unreal.

I understand that you don't care in the slightest whether someone uses AI or not,you simply chose not to use them,and continue to do what you like best and do best,and in my opinion this is very nice of you because you value freedom.

but at the same time you try to cling to reality,real cities,real names,it is wrong for you to use the name of a real city and should not be used in the description or keywords.

I,however,think that there is a fundamental difference between using the name of a real person or the name of a city,location,country.

I use the keywords that are allowed,label the content as AI and simply do my job.

I don't defend fraud in labeling a fake image as real,in fact I label all my AI content as AI,but I still have to use the word "Rome" if I create a fictional Rome,how else should I define it?just city?  :D

I am simply aware that I now live in a dystopian world,and I try to adapt to survival in this world,if I create a fake Roma,I have to put the word Roma,otherwise my content won't be found,and this doesn't change the fact that other dystopian Romes are found,so what changes?

I understand your concerns and partly share,but I don't think that all this can be stopped,the human need to distort reality,which in this historical moment is very strong.




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 :(

Don't tell me,it's likely that I'll end the month with an increase compared to last year,but it will probably be an insignificant increase.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 18, 2025, 06:10 »
true freedom,in my opinion,existed until the 80s and 90s

today we have become slaves to ourselves,the life we ​​live today is completely different from the life we ​​lived 30 years ago,and only less than 30 years have passed!

apart from the fact that today we live in a dystopian world... but that's a long story.

to stay on topic,in my opinion Adobe is doing as good a job as humanly possible.

It's easy to criticize,it only takes a second.

someone sees a word,an action,a fact,and criticizes that word,action,fact.

but then really understand the background and how we arrived at that word,fact,action,and a whole other story.

even the bonus contributor,it is easy to criticize that the minimum uploads have been raised to 150,or criticize Adobe for anything else,but then in reality you don't know the behind the scenes or the difficulties you may have in managing a difficult situation like AI,and all that entails.

However,I'm sure that Adobe appreciates criticism,because it also allows understand points of view and what they can improve.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 18:26 »
@DiscreetDuck

do you think I don't understand you?I know very well that letting a machine do a job that a person should do is a destructive thing.

I'm 49 years old and I too have seen many things that have changed for the worse,let's be clear,everything has really changed,I think that before true freedom really existed,today it is just a distant memory.

In my opinion your flaw is that you try too aggressively to fight something you can't fight,then the flaw that you can see in me or that I can see in you are just our points of view and nothing more.


"i don t know nothing at all" it's just a joking way of saying that you should never think you know everything because no one knows everything,this is the only certain thing,and having an "I know it all" attitude and then starting a conversation with an insult,you've already made a mistake,and even if you're right you end up being wrong only in the way you stand.


yes,the AI ​​have also changed the contributor bonus and much more as you know,and in my opinion you continue to make the mistake of going against something that cannot be stopped.

if you don't want to use AI,it's your choice,but you can't simply attack those who use AI,you're angry,I understand.


Anyway,I think that's enough,let's not digress too much from the bonus contributor,let's try to stay on topic!  :)


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 16:24 »
my current plan expires February 19th.

the year before,my plan expired in April,I requested the code in advance in 2024 in February,and for 2 months I had 2 identical plans that were going on their own,with even double the generative credits available because they were running 2 identical plans at the same time,the old one which expired in April 2024 and the new one which expired in February 2025.

so no,from my experience it is possible that 2 identical plans with different deadlines are running at the same time.

now I don't know if they updated this or what,everything is possible,also because now each plan has a set number of generative credits.

However,I wait until the last day of the current plan that is still valid before requesting the new one.

If your plan expires in October,it's probably best to redeem the new one a couple of months before at least.

Of course,it would be useful to know if these free codes have an expiration date and what it is,because for example I could also think about taking a break and maybe starting again in a few months and requesting the new plan when I need it,but it is not known whether they must be requested in 6 months or a year or when.

This is very clear, and this is exactly what I experienced. And so did mike123.

It is possible that the plans has been updated to avoid adding the generative credits with two identical plans that run at the same time with 2 different deadlines.

In any case,I'm waiting for February,maybe even a week before,and I'll see what happens.




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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 15:49 »
my current plan expires February 19th.

the year before,my plan expired in April,I requested the code in advance in 2024 in February,and for 2 months I had 2 identical plans that were going on their own,with even double the generative credits available because they were running 2 identical plans at the same time,the old one which expired in April 2024 and the new one which expired in February 2025.

so no,from my experience it is possible that 2 identical plans with different deadlines are running at the same time.

now I don't know if they updated this or what,everything is possible,also because now each plan has a set number of generative credits.

However,I wait until the last day of the current plan that is still valid before requesting the new one.

If your plan expires in October,it's probably best to redeem the new one a couple of months before at least.

Of course,it would be useful to know if these free codes have an expiration date and what it is,because for example I could also think about taking a break and maybe starting again in a few months and requesting the new plan when I need it,but it is not known whether they must be requested in 6 months or a year or when.

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This year so far 80% of sales are real content,and 20% AI.

my port is about 75% real and 25% AI.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 11:06 »
What is the recommended time that we take advantage of the offer? Last year I waited till my current subscription was close to running out and I ran into a bunch of issues (which were resolved after a lot of back and forth with Adobe support....I don't want to go through that again).

So specifically, if we still have many months before our current subscription expires, is it okay if we take advantage of the offer immediately (assuming the new plan would begin when our current plan expires, not earlier), or should we wait till we near the expiration of our current plan?

Thanks.

I still have this question: My current plan extends until October 2025. If I redeem my code immediately, will it automatically extend until October 2026?...or is it better I wait till the October deadline approaches? (I waited last year and had all kinds of problems....specifically, instead of extending the plan, it started a second new plan subscription.)

the plan begins the moment you request the code,a different plan.

my old plan will expire in February and I will redeem the new code one day earlier,of course October is far away,it's possible that the blue bar is still there,probably yes,but I can't say for sure.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 10:15 »
it is simply a gift,and we simply have to thank.
This sounds quite immature. For example, if you go to the supermarket, where they sell you 3 products for the price of 2, that's just business (generating motivation to make contributors accept certain other unfavorable orientations can be part of the business).
You can consider it's a gift, or consider they get some interest in doing this....

"next year we can easily expect 300 minimum contents to be uploaded" ... "next year there will be at least 200 minimum uploads"
;D So funny how you are confused in your statements...
Or maybe you used ChatGPT...  ::)

Obviously, and no one can attest to the contrary: this indirectly benefits contributors who upload AI-generated images. These people were able to reach this quota in a single day, or a few days.
This does not encourage talented contributors who bring their skills and want to make a much longer production time profitable. (I am not talking about me specifically, I will be able to benefit from this bonus again this year).

look....in my opinion what you wrote doesn't make much sense.

Now,it's not like that for you,and it's not like that for others?Well,I'm for freedom,as long as you don't insult other people or other people's opinions,like you did here now and like someone else did too.

so in this case,please repeat after me:"i don't know nothing at all!"  :D

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 05:58 »
@Jo Ann,but obviously there has to be a minimum requirement too,also for uploads,because in any case you have to be an active contributor to receive the bonus contributor,it seems logical to me.

of course they have increased a lot this year,in fact as I have already said I certainly didn't expect the transition from 20 to 150 minimum contents,the first year of the contributor bonus there were only 2 necessary contents if I remember correctly.

so next year we can easily expect 300 minimum contents to be uploaded.

as I said previously,I don't know why,just as no one knows,but I can assume that there is a maximum number of free codes that can be given.

so this year the minimum uploads have increased because clearly the total uploads,due to AI,have increased a lot,and therefore it is not possible for Adobe to calculate these minimum requirements before the end of the year,I don't know but it's plausible to think this.

in any case,it is a gift,so I can understand you,and the other people here who are simply saying:"I didn't expect it",of course! I didn't expect it either!

but (referring to other people,certainly not you) let's not forget that it is a gift,so if someone rings my doorbell and I go to open it and there is a man with a new car with a ribbon that is a gift for me,I I don't start insulting this person because the car he wants to give me is not my favorite color!  :D

it is simply a gift,and we simply have to thank.

of course,if it is possible to know in advance what the minimum requirements are,I agree with this,but without pretensions.

During the Christmas holidays,I was talking to a friend,and he asked me what I thought the minimum requirements were this year for the contributor bonus,I had said 50 minimum uploads and 300 sales,so as you can see I didn't expect it either!

it is very likely that next year there will be at least 200 minimum uploads,if they still decide to give us this gift!


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 17, 2025, 05:30 »
You don't know anything about this problem,so don't be such a know-it-all!
Ne ache tu lo sai la verita. But in reality it's you that pretends to know it all, with your excuses for Adobe. Can't say I heard anything saying by them that this is the reason but you just make it up as if this is why they did it.

But please tell me what do you think is fair and real? Upload or download numbers for getting the bonus? Spammers or people bringing in the money for Adobe?

please repeat after me:"i don't know nothing at all!"  :D

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 16, 2025, 14:19 »
Funny that some people here are fantasizing about excuses for Adobe.
Bottom line is that after years of a minimum upload limit for this bonus they put the bar suddenly a lot higher. And that seems really a business decision to cut costs as much as possible.
It would have been more fair to raise the download limit if in effect they would have had more downloads that year in relation to the previous year. But now it seems they can just cut out a large group that are in effect making money for them and had earned the bonus fair and square.
So yes, not a nice move from Adobe.


strange,I would rather say that it is very funny that you think you know everything but you really know nothing for sure on this matter.

You don't know how it works,and what the conditions decided by Adobe are for setting the contributor bonus,you don't even know if it's possible to do it at the beginning of the year or not.

You don't know anything about this problem,so don't be such a know-it-all!

and then come on...come on guys,150 contents approved in a year are really nothing,and I really think we just have to thank Adobe who gives us free software every year,don't be greedy!

of course if it is possible to know the minimum requirements before it is better,but if it is not possible it is not even correct to expect!

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the contents that I am creating these days are nothing more than the AI ​​evolution of a vector that I created at the end of 2019.

so it is an already tested idea/concept that has sold a lot,but more in other agencies while on Adobe only 5 times so far.

I hope these AI evolutions of the same concept sell better on Adobe compared to the old vector.


for the rest,I can only hope that you are right,and that from next week sales will start to take off,I am very curious to see what the results of these important first quarter of the year will be.

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I'm more in "stand by" mode!  :D

it just hasn't taken off yet,for now I'm stuck at the same number of sales as last year.

I'm continuing to produce,but I've only created 22 new content in the last 9-10 days.


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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 16, 2025, 03:04 »
Cobalt,you know you have all my respect,but what are your doubts based on,or how do you know they can't make a simple prediction?

What do you think are the reasons why they don't communicate the minimum requirements in advance?

If they really wanted to,they wouldn't give free software to anyone.

In your opinion,if Adobe could,wouldn't communicate the minimum requirements in advance,at the beginning of the year?

for what obscure reason should they do so?

it is much more plausible to think that they don't know until the new year begins.

I'm also sorry that many long-time contributors have not received free software,but I just can't see the reason why Adobe can't communicate the minimum requirements in advance at the beginning of the year,so it's very,very likely that they simply can't,they don't know either until the beginning of the new year.

indeed,knowing Adobe,I believe that they will probably also look for a solution to this issue,to try to communicate these minimum requirements in advance if possible,but if it is possible to do it of course!

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 16, 2025, 02:12 »
my guess is that they don't know it in advance either,here's why they can't say it in advance.

I obviously can't know,but it's plausible to think that the minimum requirements for bonus contributors are calculated at the beginning of the new year,based on total uploads and total sales.

there will probably be a threshold of maximum number of software codes that can be given away for free,and this year the minimum requirements have increased quite a bit because in the last year more has been sold and much more has been uploaded than in previous years.

in fact,I suppose that they also tried to keep the minimum requirements as low as possible,but I don't see any reason why they don't communicate the minimum requirements in advance,so in my opinion the only explanation is the simplest:

Adobe can calculate and know the minimum requirements for the contributor bonus only at the beginning of the new year.

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of course,I said tomato because writing tomato or Roma or Italian stylemakes no difference to me.

this is all fine as long as everything is represented in a generic way,if instead someone want to represent a real event or real news in Rome that actually happened,the matter is different,this cannot be done.

if instead I want to create a Roman Forum with 2 Arches of Tito,it's simply a dystopian,fictional Rome,so I label the content as AI,and in fact I also declare that the persons and properties are fictitious,and I definitely add the word Rome in the description and keywords,because the content always represents Rome,even if it's a fictitious Rome.

there is a difference between a real person,or a real artist and the name of a city or a country.

I don't create city AI content simply because I think AI is better suited to other types of content,but doing so is not a violation of any rule.

yes,I too have noticed content that I think is AI and that actually are not labeled as AI,this is definitely something to avoid,and this is our responsibility first of all and then also Adobe's responsibility of course.

I am more than certain that anyone who demonstrates repeat behavior in this sense will be permanently blocked by Adobe.

while if it happens once,due to distraction it can happen,it is blocked temporarily.

Given the amount of content added weekly,it's easy for something to slip through a first check,but I'm more than certain that Adobe performs more checks periodically than just the first review.

then once the file is downloaded everything is in the hands of the customer.

if I go in a gun shop and buy a gun and then go down to the street and start shooting people,no one will ever blame the gun shop for that!

Anyone can get a driver's license,but if someone enjoys spending the day trying to run over as many pedestrians as possible,what should we do?Take away everyone's license?

I have to index the content correctly then if someone uses AI content irresponsibly it is certainly not my fault because I wrote Roma.



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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Contributor Bonus 2025
« on: January 15, 2025, 12:49 »
I was somewhat expecting it,because I had already noticed a change in the minimum requirements from last year,perhaps I wasn't expecting this kind of difference,especially in the minimum number of approved contents.

In any case,I far exceeded the minimum requirements,and I already have the blue bar in my dashboard,before redeeming I will wait for the last day of the expiring plan.

Thank you!

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@Uncle Pete

a difficult matter!

If you can't use the name of anything,how does anyone find this content?

it's different to write "in the style of Miyazaki" or "Australian style landscape" as you already know.

but if you can't write tomato because it's not a real tomato,how do you find the AI ​​tomato?   :D

and the same is also applicable to a name of a city or a country.

why set these limits?

if anyone wants to create a London with 2 Big Ben and insert the name "London", "Big Ben" and "Westminster" in the keywords,what's bad?

it doesn't matter at all because all the content is labeled as AI,so whoever buys it knows that it is AI content.

man has always been looking for new lands to explore,new borders to overcome,new discoveries,see what's on Mars and create gluten-free biscuits!

text to image AIs are simply the answer to a need that is innate in human beings,the need for something different,new.



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the situation has stabilized here too,at the moment I have the exact same number of sales as I had last year on January 14th.

which is clearly not the best,but there will probably be an increase in the second half of the month,I hope to be able to exceed at least 50% more,but 100% would be better!  :D

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Regarding the abundance of AI in the search results. I would think that is largely do to the unending flood of AI submissions....new items always start out high in the search. It would be an interesting stat to see the rate of new AI assets vs. the rate of new actual photo assets introduced into the collection.

go back to the previous page,I think Jo Ann has already answered this question.  :)

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